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no wonder ur phoenix was not working lol...
u need to pump em a lot...
they are pretty insane in masses...

as for VRs, its highly dependent on the opponent...
since i had a very very bad start, i'm force to go the VR route...
usually i rather go with the chargelot/ HTs as it renders their viking useless...

Result of turtling+almost no scouting : http://www.mediafire.com/?0y4zv9ssaja2x25

good to hear...
i always end up with 10++ phoenixes...
fly pass overlords and they jz die 

colossus get the range upgrade...
micro ur colossus (move back shoot) when they try to snipe ur colossus while ur ground force hold the distance...
if he get into viking, u transition into HTs

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Added on September 6, 2010, 11:45 am

just need clearance from the vista lasik admins lol.

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Added on September 6, 2010, 11:47 am

sentires problem isnt micro troubles (just sep group em), its the GAS consumption that hinders EITHER your HT or colossus push.

its still trouble considering the gas.

and without thermal lance, i dont even want to bring my colossus into battle and risk them. hell, i build observer first while chrono'ing thermal lance (you can STILL get a colossus out about the time lance finishes even after observer and chrono on lance upgrade) so when my colo is out they already have lance.

and no, resource is still available. as game ends in around 10-15mins. definitely have plentiful of minerals on both sides of army lol. its just, after losing so many units from colo snipe/harass, it is quite pointless to continue onwards as the pressing zealots/stalkers will eventually overwhelm the base and ultimately gg

it's very rare i use protoss..

But my favourite tactic was to use probe rush..
after 10 probes, straightaway attack opponent's workers
i got lucky by winning 5 matches in a row with that stupid tactic when I was in silver league..

i wish i can train with all you guys here....
add me pls

If anyone is up for some practice sessions, do add me up.

well, i used to use immortals a lot vs MMM, but quite frankly, its a huge gamble and usually a 1 time all in and spray and pray sorta deal. more often than not you'll lose out on the out muscling due to stim packs + medivac heal and if the guy is good on micro, medivac micro rescues.

reason is that immortals, while being great tank and all, still gets RAPED by marauders after their shields go down (meaning, no more 20+ dmg rauder dmg reduced to 10) and the WORST of it all is they are subjected to concuss while colossi arent, if your opponent is playing sniping with you (stim, move in snipe stalker/immort) then you're ABSOLUTELY f***ed. more often than not if he attempt to snipe, you will have to HARD PRESS and wrestle with him and hope you have enough micro/army count to force a retreat out of him before he decimates you. totally unfavorable in high level play.

and heres the thing with colossus, without lance, sniping is absolutely not possible and EVEN the marauders have a shot at taking out your colossi. needless to say vikings. imagine losing that PRECIOUS time and 300min/200 gas per colossi and giving YOUR ENEMY chance for map control/counter atk when you retreat to rebuild etc. thats why i dont even move out my colossi before they even got lance, and once they out, my army will guard it as if i am guarding my nexus/base with their lives.

and if you think you NEED to transition because either your enemy's banshee/viking too many (eg: taking out ur observers via scan and you cant deal with cloak banshees), do NOT wait until you lose all ur colossi/army and transition, immediately perform the transition if needed, and definitely try to save as many of ur troops as possible to fight for another day. colossi are extremely mobile and they can run if needed. if it comes down to your colossi going down, take out as many vikings as you can on the retreat to make it count, do NOT let it die in vain. with chance, his viking may retreat and you may even save the colossi to fight for another day.

i typically build observers while the robo bay is being built, and i spam chrono on the lance when bay is done and colossi is underway, so with all things considered, sometimes my lance will finish, and i dont even have a single colossi yet. that, or i have 1 colossus, with lance almost done, or just done around the same time. lets not forget i will also need a sizeble stalker/zealot force to hold off any early aggression should it happen, i cannot just go blindly on stalkers and let it be my only card at hand for the battle.

probably i misunderstood you somewhere in between, if thats the case my apologies. however the main reason for transitions is typically your army setup is not matchable with your opponent's army, or a clash happens and you lost the skirmish/battle. however my point still stands: your observer is your intel, use them to have a fixed location on your opponent (in this case a turtling fag terran) and have your colossi to perform sniping. no need to all in. and think of it this way, so long your sniping is good, macro well, you will gain the upper hand as he will have to replace dead units/repairs while you dont. and again, once you got him contained, the map is YOURS, once you secure that advantage, expanding is almost a zero risk deal.

what i am trying to point out though, is to put yourself in a situation, that you DO NOT have to transition. force that option to YOUR opponent, not being forced upon. place that momentum to YOUR opponent and keep pushing it hard. i know this is easier said than done, however if you noticed in pro level plays, its all about creating that momentum, and riding HARD upon it once you got a slight gain in favor. there are RARELY cases that you can outturn that momentum in a decisive strike (cases like these are a well placed baneline/zergling ambush and instantly GG the entire MMM bio ball, see demuslim vs dimaga haha)

well if you already have a sizeble force and colossi backing em, then its all good, however, with immortals being so expensive (they are literally TWO stalkers, which can help fend of banshees/vikings ) its oftently a hard option to push them out at all. not to mention they will be occuping your precious 1 robo slot for observers/colossi lol. (you can chrono them, however you lose chrono on lance)

yeah most importantly is the trial and error and do whats comfortable FOR YOU. if you like HTs, by all means use that over colossi. as ive said many times, i hate HTs so colossi is definitely my choice against MM(M) lol.

ok gimme a bit, admins just gave the green light. snaking from work to upload to FTP LOL!

thats prolly why

and /face when i forgotten my ftp password oTL

GSL is live now...
lotze.prime won 2-1...
his opponent did the korean 4 gate rush a little too slow...
pylons got destroyed b4 the units all hit =(

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Added on September 6, 2010, 5:50 pmnext games is ogs.spunky (team leader of ogs and one of the best toss) vs august.werra (T) LOL

rofl finally gotten in. god damn case sensitive unix servers LOL (and by that i meant my USERNAME)

=edits=
ok should be done, will mirror this on the vista lasik thread it self later with a screenshot lol.

unker incx please put it up first page, thanks ^^

I rly like this replay. I did that once on a fren and he said that was a cheese. I personally dont consider that a cheese as you still follow the standard build order but with a lil diff that u secretly plant a plyon in their base. Even if that fails, u're still able to recover from it really quick.

Actually sometimes is the initial mindset an perception which set you back, back then I used to think that terran is unbeatable, starting to have such a mindset set you back and cause you to do many unforce error.

I believe you start to have positive mindset it might have upturn the whole game entirely (I realise this when I saw thread of terran complaining Zerg and Protoss being Imba), obviously everyone having their own problem vs other race

Sometimes I do have problems with terran, I guess i play really badly when it comes to PVT matches,

glad to know that my replays helped
lets not forget typical terran players' mindsets are expecting you to leave them alone while they have it their way walling off/turtling/macroing etc. the moment you tell them that aint happening, it deviates from their original plan and if they cannot adept, they will crumble.

you may even use the concept of "turtling" for reference. imagine a turtle, or tortoise. when you approach it, it will hide itself in the shell right? what happens, if you do not leave, and keep on knocking on the shell? will the turtle come out? no. you basically kept the animal contained within its own shell to rot. However, should the turtle denies you, or is in desperation (eg: hunger), it may suddenly come out and bite your hand/finger. and that will injure you no doubt (try getting bitten by a grown tortoise/turtle )

now, apply this into starcraft, do you see things much clearer in terran match ups overall now?

haha yeah and thank god for well placed observers to prevent any sneaky drops. sometimes, its a toss up on observers/scanner. scans are just 1 side, limited time. while the observer is forever there and can move around seeing so much more intel.

very notable on the game against Arwa, where i had damn good observer placement, and played as if i was maphacking LOL
that probably got him dumbfounded and he played very poorly from then on (noticed his unspent resources and APM?)

imagining myself in HIS place, i think i would be in the same situation too, frustrated, things that were plan arent working out, running out of options, etc. thats one situation where one should never be in if he wants to win.

btw i had my share of experience of being bitten when i was little. lotsa blood is all i can say lol. and boy do they cling HARD, hard to keep slamming the shell on concrete till it finally let go of my finger lol

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Added on September 7, 2010, 5:42 pm

got the link to that day9 cast? havent been following day9 for a LOOOONG while and a lil tired/lazy to dig myself XD