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 Protoss Discussion Thread Ver. 1, [SEASON 2] Tips & Strategies.

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tatyinw
post Nov 2 2010, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 1 2010, 06:19 PM)
working/ studying in KL atm, ps3 in penang...
so cant console game so much swap to pc while waiting lol
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Oh hahaha. laugh.gif
So you're another ps3 kaki also. smile.gif
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post Nov 3 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Nov 2 2010, 08:47 PM)
Hahha i used to have that problem but try making use of sentry since they are the backbone of the protoss army, ive posted a post before regarding how to use force field to its full use.. kiting mara wont be any problem anymore!

*Waves hands vigorously

I'm a terran!!
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Argh! Calvin you traitor! Haha. laugh.gif
But really... it is getting pretty depressing lately playing as toss. tongue.gif
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post Nov 3 2010, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 3 2010, 12:51 AM)
swap to random for fun...
facerolling wit terran, 50-50 with toss and got roflstomp as zerg lol...
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I am thinking of doing that.
At least I would have more different options to try out instead of always the same old strats. tongue.gif
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post Nov 3 2010, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 3 2010, 12:58 AM)
well when i lost as a terran to a toss, i did get some rough idea on the timings...
it would help ur main race matchups after all (i usually random from time to time but going hardcore this time)
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Hmm yea you have a good point there.
The best way to learn the enemy is to be the enemy. laugh.gif


Added on November 3, 2010, 11:03 amOuch... got pwned by my favourite 4 gate strat when I got terran. sad.gif

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tatyinw
post Nov 3 2010, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 3 2010, 11:24 AM)
2 bunker > 4 gate
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Oh thanks evo.
Will try that out if I get TvP and they went 4 gate. smile.gif
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post Nov 3 2010, 11:58 AM

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4 gate vs 3 rax, I was able to hold back 3 pushes but I guess the bunker was really important. Just had to focus fire down the stalkers while moving to kite the zealots.

Just that after taking down 3 groups of armies, I can't regenerate my army as fast as his 4 gates. cry.gif


Added on November 3, 2010, 12:19 pm
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 3 2010, 11:53 AM)
which is also why when u 4 gate as a toss and u see 2 bunkers, dun commit and fall back...
expo into colossus (or at least get robo/ obs)...

if 1 bunker, u can still commit and FF behind the bunker, burst it down and push right in...

else u can do the warp prism drop trick...
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Oh ok.
Think my opponent saw my bunker so he quickly burst it down.
I only had 1 when he came up my ramp.

As toss, I usually push to colossus while denying my opponent from expanding.
1 observer before the colossus to scout inside his base to see what is he doing.
I always end up relying on colossus to win against terran.

However with this game, it does give me more confidence to do 4 gate against a terran now.
I always thought that it won't work against terran. I only used it against zerg or toss. tongue.gif

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post Nov 3 2010, 03:11 PM

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Yea. That's why it is really 50/50. tongue.gif
Flip of a coin.
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post Nov 3 2010, 03:46 PM

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I always hit both sides.
The back first to make his army go there, then blast his front. tongue.gif
If he has an expansion, he'll usually lose that expansion or a lot of their scvs will die.


Added on November 3, 2010, 4:13 pm
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 3 2010, 03:12 PM)
yup warp directly into his base (like wut kiwikakii love to do back then)...
4 gate pushes are faster than banshee usually (unless u are damn far away/ cross map)...
if u went wit the warp prism (ala whitera) u can jz chrono out a obs as well...
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Hmm. Think each time I do that 4 gate push and they went fast banshee I will hit his front while his banshee just reached my mineral. tongue.gif
Usually game over for him when that happens.


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post Nov 3 2010, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 3 2010, 05:18 PM)
well immortals with ur gate army still do decent damage to marines etc...
dun forget it deal 20 damage to normal and can take quite a beating...
and the robo prevent u from dying to random banshee/ thor rushes...

i notice NA toss tend to go immortal heavy builds nowadays  as well...
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Hmm. At my level, I keep meeting 4 gate push toss. It was really easy to counter as toss though.


Added on November 3, 2010, 5:26 pm
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 3 2010, 04:26 PM)
so far from my experience i managed to beat the banshee...
i had a halucination build which i used that allow me to hit their ramp pretty quick and fast (halucinated VR for scouting and drawing some fire lol)...
even when his banshee is out, u got time b4 his cloak finishes so snipe that banshee ASAP, micro ur stalker towards the techlab/ starport...
once that is down u are pretty much homerun...
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post Nov 4 2010, 02:27 PM

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Yea. Wish I had blink in the game that I had against a zerg.
Would have worked wonders after watching the Nony vs Idra Game 3. sad.gif
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post Nov 9 2010, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Nov 9 2010, 05:54 PM)
Been away for a month now....any new builds for protoss? Or should I just stick with the good ol' fashion 4 build gateway lol.
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Calvin just posted all his nice replays. Go check it out. tongue.gif
I am still using 4 gate occasionally too.

QUOTE(hazairi @ Nov 9 2010, 05:58 PM)
I farkin hate collossus..!
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Haha why? You can just kill the toss before he gets it. tongue.gif
Some toss are pretty weak since they tech too fast to get the colossus only to have a small gate army to protect it, which is bad in day[9]'s books. tongue.gif
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post Nov 9 2010, 06:37 PM

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It was actually on the same page as you just posted. tongue.gif


Added on November 9, 2010, 6:49 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 9 2010, 06:08 PM)
huk kicked reason to the curb and proved day9 wrong
*puts on sunglasses and points upwards*

YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH
*ttgl x csi:miami
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Haha. Think only Huk can prove that.
I fought a guy who did the same thing.
Steamrolled through his army since he could only get one colossus when I push up his ramp. tongue.gif

Haha you just watched TTGL again recently?
"My drill is the drill...THAT CREATES THE HEAVENS!!!"

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post Nov 10 2010, 04:59 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 9 2010, 10:42 PM)
no i didnt. and its PIERCE
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Ah damn. My memory fails me.... sad.gif
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post Dec 3 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 2 2010, 12:59 PM)
u can look at most NA toss replays...
they do this alot (not much on the korean side)...

u can delay the zerg expo by putting 1 pylon at that spot (or if u are terran a 90% completed ebay so u can cancel it back for 75 minerals lol)...
or u can double pylon below his ramp with cannons (or if u are terran double bunker)...

of course while doing that beware of nydus...
this opponent is really weak against nydus and we saw so many toss died to nydus...
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Yea I fell prey to the nydus quite a few times. cry.gif
Now I always make sure I pylon all around my base just to be safe.

But then in one game, I forgot to block my front properly and he just rushed in from my front lines instead of through a nydus...
That was after a week long break from SC2. sad.gif
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post Dec 6 2010, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 3 2010, 01:44 PM)
that's the weakness of the build...
u gotta be very defensive after that both ur front and possible nydus behind as ur gate would be much slower...
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Yea. I forgot about the sentry that round, so he easily went up the ramp to my main base. sad.gif
Must never forget the sentry again...

QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Dec 6 2010, 06:02 AM)
Hey guys how has it been?
Today I was surprise when i woke up at 4am! so i started playing ladder as usual lol!
I had 1 of the hardest match in my life heres a replay of it biggrin.gif
was pretty blur and tired but thank god it wasnt my 1st match because i made so many mistakes im off to have some breakfast n freshen up and off to work!
hope you guys enjoy the replay
here are the stats

pRosCrUBieE vs nGenWild
P V T

I decided for a fast expo since Ive played with him before so i know his play style he likes early aggresion so i went for gate units to fend off his early aggression instead of going for robo tech.. then i decided to go templar zealots stalkers tech..

ps. archons are imba tankers!

Here's the link
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/112935-...-delta-quadrant
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Thanks again Scrubie. smile.gif

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