not trying to make enemy here...but just trying to understand how is the status of the submitted Memorantum? I heard from many who said this project is giving quality materials, while in this forum, existing buyers are saying otherwise. I was a bit confuse though...I went to the sales office a couple of times since it first launch in fact.

Can i ask if MS actually show you all the material used when you book the unit ? OR in fact, since the show house is ready since more than a year ago, is there any deviation from what you see (on the showhouse) compare to what they are about to give you (either in the S&P or the work in progress unit)?

Just trying to understand if MS is cheating buyer (promise this but giving that) or this is merely a expectation difference after comparison with adjacent project or others or MS is capitalizing on the general and loosely stated specification on S&P.

The above is referring to material as quality is really very subjective (unless it totally mess up). E.g. there is a photo on showing the mild steel being used at the back of the house as part of the fencing....but i thought that is very common. After which, they will paint up the reddish steel into different colour, the type of doors should be normally stated clearly.

nope, unfortunately, i missed out on the early launch of KR last year because i was engaged with other investment. I did follow closely on both of their project Garden Residence and Kinrara Residence launches.

Now, with the increase of price, it is slightly prohibitive to invest as i am interested in Palmiera.

Just curious, have the SPA for semid been signed?

I trust that you already bring this up to the highest level possible. First of all, i would like to congratulate all of you guys on the purchase and most importantly, you guys really are a group of matured buyers  because in the past, I have seen many buyers reluctant to state their dislike, shy away from saying what their expectations are and also in many circumstances, many buyer would not want to expose the weakness or cons in the project that they purchase just because that they worry about what stated would eventually affect their property price.

I would suggest that you use the power on online forum as well. Perhaps draw out the comparison of material used against key or other major project offering similar features. Let everyone be aware of the material used is still marginally lower grade than those other project.

DEveloper being developer, they will try their best to maximize their profit, which is totally fine, but not at the expense of buyers. I also notice that in Garden Residence project, there are some design fault and a clear degradation of material use over the phases. Some of them are not too visible but for those who knows these materials, you just cant fool them.

Actually, from day 1, i dont like the fact that property developers can even specify the material used in more detail. These hundred of thousands if not million product, why cant they put at least better or clearer specification. E.g. Laminated timber flooring ....how are the size, the thickness, the model, the brand, the color, the coating, etc. I can understand that property developer dont want to be sued if for example the product they quoted are suddenly being discontinued or the supplier goes bankcrupt.

LEt me ask you a question, if MS were to sell KR based on BTS (pls ignore the price factor first), would you have bought it based on the current used of materials?

Well, at a time I was a bit divided to decide whether to get a unit in KR as quite interested in getting either a 3 storey link house or perhaps 3 storey semi-d if my budget allow. Anyway I think for the tiles and fencing is not a major issue as I believe if you are able to spend such money for a house then why not spend another few to furnish your unit for long term stay. Overall, I think this is a nice place to stay so wish all our bros here all the best in fighting for your rights for better quality of houses fm MS.

pardon my ignorance...what is KRU?

Will there be any MS representatives? Or just the owners?

not sure but think this is chaired by mr steven wong or mr liang?

Can i have the summary of the last meeting? Thanks.