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post Jul 17 2011, 01:59 PM

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When oversupply is coming, the market will not say 'oversupply coming ya'. It happens when everyone gets their keys & suddenly so many units available & no tenants. Always a timelag between handover & tenants coming in, and when the supply reaches tipping point, may have to wait forever for tenant. I always keep in mind what happened to the opis market, in the doldrum for years.

If the famous mk area with famous developer can get soft, why not other place ? Have to remember that.

Those prop above 400k, can say proportion of investors r higher.

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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jul 17 2011, 01:59 PM)
When oversupply is coming, the market will not say 'oversupply coming ya'. It happens when everyone gets their keys & suddenly so many units available & no tenants. Always a timelag between handover & tenants coming in, and when the supply reaches tipping point, may have to wait forever for tenant. I always keep in mind what happened to the opis market, in the doldrum for years.

If the famous mk area with famous developer can get soft, why not other place ? Have to remember that.

Those prop above 400k, can say proportion of investors r higher.
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well said thumbup.gif

I notice that our home buyers / investors (Chinese) are getting younger and younger, while the salary level has not seen a significant improvement over the last ten years, yet we see so many youngsters (< 30)are buying more than 1 property, wat does it signify? wave.gif

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post Jul 17 2011, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jul 17 2011, 02:10 PM)
well said thumbup.gif

I notice that our home buyers / investors (Chinese) are getting younger and younger, while the salary level has not seen a significant  improvement over the last ten years, yet we see so many youngsters (< 30)are buying more than 1 property, wat does it signify?  wave.gif
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mean you're > 30 year old...
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post Jul 17 2011, 02:25 PM

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many of our young peoples are well-paid in their industry.


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post Jul 17 2011, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(cutealex @ Jul 17 2011, 02:19 PM)
mean you're > 30 year old...
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> 40
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post Jul 17 2011, 02:36 PM

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No comments on either young now are well paid or not...but just not blindy buy...select the right prpoerty will do...

*actually i still found lot of <30 still in the payout within rm3k+ only


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post Jul 17 2011, 02:51 PM

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there are still some 1000sf units left in first batch, all at least 800+ psf. You can still get 5% early bird discount too. These units go for at least 800k though.

Affin bank has DIBS
other banks doesn't have DIBS but has a 3% discount
if not taking loan there's additiona 2-3% discount

the hype is through the roof, lots of people today, wasn't that many yesterday when i went there.

edit: saw a few singaporean buyers too just now.

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post Jul 17 2011, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jul 17 2011, 02:25 PM)
many of our young peoples are well-paid in their industry.
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As per http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/115179435202482, we called them HAIs.

Highly Affuent Individuals. A can be Ambitious too.

The trend now is that HAIs are now ambitious and eager to start their own startups/business, so they buy SOHAIs.

Signature Office for Highly Affluent/Ambitious Individuals.


(pls forget the vulgar version, as I truly meant Highly Affluent Individuals)





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post Jul 17 2011, 07:32 PM

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Wa lau, just like pasar selling houses...
my gosh....so stress there.
I heard that there is a unit 400 sq ft going
for 3xx k....gone
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post Jul 17 2011, 07:52 PM

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If these 745sqft is selling at RM645k, then once completion how much will these units able to sell? RM800k for merely 745sqft that is only able to cater for couple without kids? Still I don't see the potential of this project, unless if you are targeting expatriate rental.
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post Jul 17 2011, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jul 17 2011, 12:21 PM)
If you refer patchay.com (accetera) blog, bout the KL future development projects, 3 alert signals...
1. The concept & design of highrise condo / service apartment is getting better & better, very futuristic. Now we are talking bout green concept (shd be the trend). Today's most beautiful condo can be overtake easily in a short time, besides that, condo occupy very small piece of land, this is the dangerous part.
2. at least 300 new highrise projects mainly in MK and KLCC LCG area (condo / soho / service apt) pouring into KV in 5 yrs down in the pipeline, do we hv such a high demand (for own stay / renting)?
3. The landed supply (average prime area in KV) has dropped < 3% since last year, the urgency is very clear, Landed property (regardless of freehold / leasehold) is much much safer bet.

IMHO, the bull run has carried on for sometimes, it is time for any investor to take precaution of...

What if mkt really crash (say 20%) averagely in 2013-2014, generally which type of sector will suffer the most??
Landed / highrise / shop / factories?
Landed has much better "depreciation" resistance... wink.gif
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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Jul 17 2011, 07:52 PM)
If these 745sqft is selling at RM645k, then once completion how much will these units able to sell? RM800k for merely 745sqft that is only able to cater for couple without kids? Still I don't see the potential of this project, unless if you are targeting expatriate rental.
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Na i don't think any locals in their right minds will want to live there, you are stuck between 2 highly congested roads. It will be more suitable for people working in the vicinity, there are hotels, shopping complexes, offices..etc. So i'd imagine there will be some expats around. imo part of the high price probably goes to the fly-overs and roads, those costs a ton.
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vacancy rate is so high in the new condos that VPéd 1-2 years ago including key mkt centres in KLCC, MK, Bangsar South, PJ, Subang Jaya, etc. Just take a drive to these places and count the units with lights on......sedih tapi benar!

Icon City should be no exception in the same fate......
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post Jul 17 2011, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Jul 17 2011, 09:05 PM)
vacancy rate is so high in the new condos that VPéd 1-2 years ago including key mkt centres in KLCC, MK, Bangsar South, PJ, Subang Jaya, etc. Just take a drive to these places and count the units with lights on......sedih tapi benar!

Icon City should be no exception in the same fate......
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counting the lights cannot give your the real numbers la.

unless you go there couting the same block for a continuous 90 days. take a snap shot and detect which units are totally no lights for the 90 days.

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even the apartment I am staying now in a matured area of PJ also not many are lighting up sometimes. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jul 17 2011, 09:10 PM)
counting the lights cannot give your the real numbers la.

unless you go there couting the same block for a continuous 90 days. take a snap shot and detect which units are totally no lights for the 90 days.

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even the apartment I am staying now in a matured area of PJ also not many are lighting up sometimes.  hmm.gif
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kindly name 3 condos (VPéd about 12-18months) in KLCC, MK, Bangsar South, PJ, Subang has exceeded 50% occupancy.... wink.gif
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this kind of lousy location, pigeon hole size, more than half a million?
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post Jul 17 2011, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jul 17 2011, 08:34 PM)
In search of good pontential landed with good price now ...
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I agree...... but question is where?

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post Jul 17 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Jul 17 2011, 10:17 PM)
this kind of lousy location, pigeon hole size, more than half a million?
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Top floor 1064 sq feet at 960k
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QUOTE(airline @ Jul 17 2011, 11:24 PM)
Top floor 1064 sq feet at 960k
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