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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V44!, The Orange Legion

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lwliam
post Jul 29 2010, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 29 2010, 04:03 PM)
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why nobody go watch the event one? so cham. or u went during their training practice? laugh.gif

@gouki
because sony finally got liong sam...come out with affordable yet good lenses for poor people like me. tongue.gif
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coz its not a famous publicized event, those were the actual race shots.

QUOTE(hazril @ Jul 29 2010, 04:04 PM)
yup....Simply Awesome MFD... biggrin.gif
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like that also can?
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 29 2010, 04:00 PM)
wahh~ why all the short MFD comes from all this new primes on SAM? 50mm f1.8, 30mm f1.8 and 85mm f2.8~ blink.gif
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Maybe Sony wants to change it's tagline from make.believe to getting.you.closer laugh.gif
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want to ask it is true the first generation of alpha have problem...
some of user complain about the kit lens..
im newbie here...
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(applemango @ Jul 29 2010, 04:09 PM)
want to ask it is true the first generation of alpha have problem...
some of user complain about the kit lens..
im newbie here...
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define first generation? unsure.gif
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:12 PM

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for example for a200...
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 29 2010, 04:08 PM)

like that also can?
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just things that pops up when u r too boring at the office... tongue.gif
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(applemango @ Jul 29 2010, 04:12 PM)
for example for a200...
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my frens a200 + kitlens still running strong~ rolleyes.gif
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my a350+kitlens still running strong.
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Jul 29 2010, 03:15 PM)
ic...now i m attracted to 30mm f2.8....anyone have it?....its macro capability how?..and for portraits/bokeh, is nice?
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Jul 29 2010, 03:52 PM)
i normally tripod to shoot for close up 1....just wanted to get a macro lens ma...Sony 30mm F2.8 is how?....
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mid valley sony centre mount that lens on the a550 demo unit. Since u're also using a550, try it out over there.

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post Jul 29 2010, 04:16 PM

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my a300+kitlens still going strong...do define the problem more detail....
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 29 2010, 04:14 PM)
my frens a200 + kitlens still running strong~ rolleyes.gif
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mabye it just the rumors..
by the way why the sony alpha a200 not continued the product..?
but replace it with a230...

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post Jul 29 2010, 04:17 PM

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kevinwcw: I think you missed my earlier posting - previously the UK always, always gets overpriced retail prices. Something that goes for 599 Pounds will go for 599 USD. This has always been the case with Sony.

zstan: You really should ask your cousin - there are a lot of things that you would not suspect about how the law works. There are other ways besides suing as well.

I have to admit though, graduation/scroll shots are not easy, having shot them - there will always be some stray person in the background.

wingster: Yes indeed - it also helps that the Zeiss/Minolta 85mm F1.4 extend when focusing. While it does sound like a downside because the lens sticks out, the upside is that the focal length does not change much (internal focusing lenses tend to widen, reducing magnification significantly.)

I suspect that the Sony 35mm F1.8 DT SAM and Sony 85mm F2.8 SAM will be external focusing as well. That makes the Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM the only SAM lens that does not extend when focusing!

ahpingko: Maximum Magnification is the ratio of sensor to image.

For full-frame, the sensor is 36x24mm. So if the lens can focus onto a surface that is 144x96mm, then the maximum magnification is 36:144 = 1:4x. 1:4x = 1/4 = 0.25x also.

A true macro lens will do 1:1x or 1x. Most zoom lenses with "Macro" in their name, like the kit lens, only do 1:4x (or also spelled as) 0.25x.

Gouki: Newer designs pretty much guarantee it. The 50mm F1.8 DT SAM has a MFD to be proud of. biggrin.gif

Also here's a revised version with the Sigma 24mm F1.8 and Sigma 30mm F1.4.

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post Jul 29 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(applemango @ Jul 29 2010, 04:09 PM)
want to ask it is true the first generation of alpha have problem...
some of user complain about the kit lens..
im newbie here...
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what kind of problem have the users that you heard from experienced? so far here, there's nothing much apart from old kit lenses suffer from stripped gear. probably like 2-3 out of 50 maybe? getting a 2nd hand kit lens will cost you peanuts compared to sending it in for repair. they are like china-made-DVD-players... once spoilt, buy another one...
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QUOTE(applemango @ Jul 29 2010, 04:16 PM)
mabye it just the rumors..
by the way why the sony alpha a200 not continued the product..?
but replace it with a230...
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the same reason why honda discontinued the old civic/city and came out with the new ones. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(applemango @ Jul 29 2010, 04:09 PM)
want to ask it is true the first generation of alpha have problem...
some of user complain about the kit lens..
im newbie here...
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First generation of Alpha? You mean the A100 and the A700? I never faced any problems with my A100 and I'm still shooting with it ocassionally.

Kit lens? Which one? The 18-70mm or the 18-55mm? The most common problem is the gear stripping with the 18-70mm kit lens but that happens because the later generations alpha screw drive is a bit too fast for the plastic gearings... smile.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 29 2010, 04:17 PM)
the same reason why honda discontinued the old civic/city and came out with the new ones.  rolleyes.gif
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oh like that...
any suggestion for me as new user..?
what kind of DSLR comfortable with me...
bcuz now im using sony a100..
wanted to upgrade my system...


Added on July 29, 2010, 4:22 pm
QUOTE(shootkk @ Jul 29 2010, 04:19 PM)
First generation of Alpha? You mean the A100 and the A700? I never faced any problems with my A100 and I'm still shooting with it ocassionally.

Kit lens? Which one? The 18-70mm or the 18-55mm? The most common problem is the gear stripping with the 18-70mm kit lens but that happens because the later generations alpha screw drive is a bit too fast for the plastic gearings...  smile.gif
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im also using a100..
any suggestion for me as new user of DSLR...
wanted to upgrade my system...


This post has been edited by applemango: Jul 29 2010, 04:22 PM
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(applemango @ Jul 29 2010, 04:20 PM)
oh like that...
any suggestion for me as new user..?
what kind of DSLR comfortable with me...
bcuz now im using sony a100..
wanted to upgrade my system...


Added on July 29, 2010, 4:22 pm

im also using a100..
any suggestion for me as new user of DSLR...
wanted to upgrade my system...
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what's your budget? rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 29 2010, 04:17 PM)
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Erm wait a minute .... why the specs is a little bit different compare to the sony alpha rumor and d previes?

From what I saw ...

Zeiss 24mm got 0.29x

85mm F2.8 SAM got 0.2x

35mm F1.8 SAM got 0.25x .....

The calculation seems confusing @_@

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QUOTE(applemango @ Jul 29 2010, 04:20 PM)
oh like that...
any suggestion for me as new user..?
what kind of DSLR comfortable with me...
bcuz now im using sony a100..
wanted to upgrade my system...
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if you really plan on upgrade, how much is budget? have you done your homework on what you need at review sites?


Added on July 29, 2010, 4:24 pmhahha, everyone asking same question

This post has been edited by lwliam: Jul 29 2010, 04:25 PM

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