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post Jul 28 2010, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 28 2010, 09:38 PM)
for those who are lazy to click the link:

New Sony DSLR lenses previewed - Sony 85mm f/2.8 SAM (SAL85F28) by Damien Demolder
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Too bad it is F2.8 but if the price is very freaking cheap then it would be great biggrin.gif
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post Jul 28 2010, 10:18 PM

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so the price on 85mm SAM is critical, if its the same price range as the Third Party 90mm~105mm range(mostly macro) then it is very hard to competitive against each other unless it focus much faster and has decent sharpness at F2.8 without stop down (as what Sony 100mm and 50mm does)
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post Jul 28 2010, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 28 2010, 11:22 PM)
lol... what i meant was... yes, i agree with u that the SAL100M will be the most expensive among the 3.
but im estimating that the 85 will be around the price of SP90 because the 85 is only a standard lens, while the SP90 is a purpose built true macro lens, that's where my point lies.. if given the choice of 90mm with macro and 85mm without macro, but the 85mm is much more expensive, im guessing majority would go for the SP90.
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overall as the price stated 250 Euro =(estimate RM1000++) so is in between 50mm F1.8 and 100mm Macro? but here comes some question

from the comment from the sonyalpharumor what does people complaint that this lens has only 5 elements/4 groups?
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post Jul 29 2010, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Jul 29 2010, 02:11 PM)
The A550 is more or less comparable to the Nikon D90. Only thing is the A550 has no video. The A700 is comparable to Nikon D300 ler... Now waiting for A7xx to see what suprises Sony has in store for us.

The 85mm f2.8 lens is looking real good. Hopefully the price is even better... hehehehehehe....
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The announced price is cheaper than the Tamron SP90; (250Euro =RM1000++) and price in Asia should be much lower so is quite impressive "entry-level" FF portrait lens

while 35mm F1.8 is also cheaper as well (thus much cheaper than the Nikon 35mm DX?) (200Euro =RM830++)


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post Jul 29 2010, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 29 2010, 03:16 PM)
is it THAT small?  blink.gif
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size looks like the 50mm or 18-55 kit lens... and only 175g light = =

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post Jul 29 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 29 2010, 03:45 PM)
A quick comparison, ignoring image quality:
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Wau! Looks like the Zeiss, 85mm and 35mm is a lighter + stronger magnification combo
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 29 2010, 04:17 PM)
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Erm wait a minute .... why the specs is a little bit different compare to the sony alpha rumor and d previes?

From what I saw ...

Zeiss 24mm got 0.29x

85mm F2.8 SAM got 0.2x

35mm F1.8 SAM got 0.25x .....

The calculation seems confusing @_@

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post Jul 29 2010, 04:32 PM

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or if u can wait, the new A5xx replacement would be more in your consideration

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post Jul 29 2010, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 29 2010, 04:33 PM)
wingster: Refer back to my reply to ahpingko.

Magnification can be expressed as 1:4x or 0.25x. They are the same thing.
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Oh okay now I get it xD
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post Jul 29 2010, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 29 2010, 04:35 PM)
dun need la..

go out shoot more..

upload your pics here..

let the sifus shoot you..then u will learn much better & faster.  biggrin.gif
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Still some understanding of composition, cropping, golden rule of third, symmetrical and asymmetrical on the picture is needed tongue.gif xD
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post Jul 29 2010, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(DecDeviL @ Jul 29 2010, 06:43 PM)
nope not the same, I think only...
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is the same ..

"Pellix cameras is that they have to split the light in two parts. A small part of the light goes to the phase detection sensor and a bigger part to the sensor" and it is a fixed semitransparent mirror system which has been used by the Canon during the film era
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post Jul 29 2010, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jul 29 2010, 08:34 PM)
Hmm... Which one will be my target??? Dunno...

This means A560/580 will also got movie mode, but MF isit???
A55 use EVF instead of OVF. Quite weird right? Hmm...

Wait pricelist out 1st. hahaha
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The reason they use EVF is because ....

"Pellicle mirror cameras have two drawbacks. First, the mirror must be kept scrupulously clean because light passes through it to the film surface. Second, because some of the light is being diverted up to the viewfinder there’s less light available to the film. Pellicle mirrors typically cost 2/3 stop of light and the viewfinder is also a bit dimmer."

means not enough light to view through OVF due to its system...?
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post Jul 29 2010, 10:54 PM

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put digital camo on your lens xD to cover on crowded area
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post Jul 29 2010, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Jul 29 2010, 11:07 PM)
tinking of getting macro lens or flash...both i also want.. cry.gif

F42am or Sony 30mm F2.8 DT Macro or Sigma 50mm F2.8 EX DG Macro.. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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DO you really want to carry flash or using flash often (strobbist)? ->F42AM

or

DO you want to shooting macro(not mind on close working field) with the same time portrait combo? ->50mm Macro

or

DO you want to shoot something macro in wider range(also not mind on very-close working field)? ->30mm Macro

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post Jul 29 2010, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jul 29 2010, 11:21 PM)
probably not, but even if it did, it wont drop too low..

coz RRP nex now is rm1999 (sony) and 16xx street price.. if it drops , it will only drop by a bit...
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Well who knows? Sony price always drop very quick .....
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post Jul 29 2010, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 29 2010, 11:39 PM)
yeah.. my a300 dropped rm500 in half a year.. sad.gif
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I remember last time RM2500(RM2700 for 4 years warranty) for my A350

now it is around RM1200~RM1500 range sad.gif ...

A550 will face the same fate as well when the new A5xx and Pellix camera on market next month
(luckily last time I brought it at China with ridiculous price xD)

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post Jul 30 2010, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Jul 30 2010, 02:39 PM)
i also dont i really need flash anot.. doh.gif
prime lens is good...i using F1.4 for sometime d...although is borrowed from my uncle..that y thinking of getting 1.8 coz i cant afford 1.4..
that day at redang..nite time go shoot pic...using my built in..pic come out kanasai ...mayb my skill prob... tongue.gif
specificly is sharpness..
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I think is good to grab a good lens at first ... since sharpness is your priority


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post Jul 31 2010, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(fansoption @ Jul 31 2010, 04:12 PM)
How to shoot this kind of image background is black color?

user posted image
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Use flashgun can achieve this kind of effect, by lower down your camera ISO, increase shutter speed and F-Stop number and then using MF-Live View(Normal LV will just blackout) to point and shoot with flash(make sure you adjust the right power for correct exposure). As flash is much prefer on wireless mode for different lighting positions.
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post Jul 31 2010, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 31 2010, 08:48 PM)
haha. yeah.

and why does it use EVF instead of a normal VF.  hmm.gif
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Maybe because of the light separation, pellix camera has lower light income through the sensor and the viewfinder than normal DSLR but in exchange silent shutter sound and fast shutter speed

for more technical detail you can refer here:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-sony-to...he-a55-and-a33/
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-and-her...-pellix-patent/
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post Aug 1 2010, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Aug 1 2010, 12:30 AM)
@lwliam

Still studying mah. So grateful my college rent lens to students. tongue.gif
After 2 more years graduated already, no more liao cry.gif


Added on August 1, 2010, 12:30 am@kevinwcw

The one academy
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so u r in photography class this sem also?


Added on August 1, 2010, 12:59 am
QUOTE(cheeshyan94 @ Aug 1 2010, 12:56 AM)
u mean toa? if yes, then can borrow DSLR's body , lens and flash
but i think ur nex 5 cant use photograph class  blush.gif
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haha actually lecture din force people wan ... as long as you have a camera ...



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