ANyway back to the topic,

I'm not overly worried about +5 cents for Ron95, but the trickle down effect would be the one to watch for, we all know our Roti Canai is made from 50% petrol so they have to increase by 10cent each.

More worrying is ROn97 being floated, i feel they will adjust it up every month or so, and conveniently forget to adjust it downwards if global market prices drop.

Also, with the removal of all these subsidies, does that mean our world highest car import/excise duties will be removed as well?

LOL some ppl sounded so exaggerated like Gomen killing their whole family. For a whole full tank of 35L, the price increase is only RM1.75. if you practice lighter feet, you gain back the lost already.

Bro not killing whole family lah. It's suffocating them softly. Heard of the song 'killing me softly'? Anyway it's not "just" RM1.75, you are under the impression your local mamak wont tell u "petrol naik lah, milo naik 10 cent oso lah"? Trickle down effect bro...

the best is sugar also increase ma, teh ais will increase price too..

Nobody is forcing you to go to mamak. Don't like the 10 sen increase, don't go. You won't die. You are not even exercising your powers of a consumer to choose.

sometimes, there is no choice... at all.....

drink mineral water, good for health hahaha

same for u, less sugar, good for health...

isn't it better without subsidy? mamak no more excuse wanna increase ur teh tarik. Price adjust every month, u f*ck the mamak if petrol went down but his price doesn't hahaha

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Added on July 16, 2010, 10:48 amwat no choice ? later u go mamak u tell mamak u wan AIR KOSONG

This post has been edited by Vincent Pang: Jul 16 2010, 10:48 AM

lol, mineral water's price will also go up due to increase in transportation costs :\

lets just hope the price of goods will not go up too much

damage had been done when the fuel price went up to RM2.70, so why argue over it? crude oil will be more expensive if the demand grow and fuel price will increase in the future

for the 5 cent increase, i think it is acceptable lah, let Ron97 floating also a wise choice, too much of subsidize won't help the country growth
those who need more "vroom vroom" won't subsidize by government, isn't that fair for us?

under the name fair, everything not subsidize, and then, where does the money go??

imagine Mr.A a low income person ( income less than 3k) , government removes all subsidy, so, what benefit did you get? Yea, you will feel happy, those sxxker that drives a big car will feel the pinch?? Those who go mamak will feel the pinch? and how about a low income like Mr.A, what actual benefit does he get? Other than the feeling of happy that justice has been done?

Just like a fren of mine, when petrol is RM2.70, he was so happy, cos he driving motor, and he jealous ppl driving car, lol.

Remove all subsidy will not help country grows, it will make you poorer, and those in power has more money to siphon, thats all.

Stop the subsidy argument unless someone can show how do we actually benefit from this.

I rather gomen waste the money subsidizing us, than spend it all on mega projects where they get 30% kick backs, and use all into buying ferraris and sending their kids to oversea with our money.

In a perfectly well managed country, yes, removing subsidies will infact improve the overall economic condition of the country... alas we are not..

Govt's counter to the argument that our car is expensive have always been our cheap petrol.. now that this is gone.. what else is there to day? My RM50k excise duty paid for my damn car have already pre-paid to the govt all the petrol subsidies for the entire lifetime of the car!

Not really worry about fuel price but the domino effect for price of other consumer good might going up......luckily my family got own well in the back of house....(lucky the land was full of fresh mineral water...so saving alot laa for 3 years )

I actually glad also laa fuel price RM2.70..since I can ride my bike in piece....everybody is slow & less car on the road haha

removing subsidies should also remove all things that cronies monopolize, let free competition flow in and have competitive price for consumers. If you let foreign players to sell sugar in malaysia i think the price will come down as a market effect

I briefly read this and here's a fact.

In Thailand, fuel prices are not subsidized. Folks there there have been living happily for a while without any subsidy all these while.

My point is that ... we have been so comfortable living in subsidy thus all these problems arise. If you are complaining about the gov, tell me where in the world the gov is corruption free ? Mamak teh tarik prices goes up coz he maintains the level of sugar in the drinks. Carbonated water manufacturers are not fault free as well. We have one of the highest content of sugar in our drinks in the world.

Compare the sugar content in a can of Coke in Japan, Korea, China, Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia and you'll see.

I felt Malaysians should grow up and learn to be competitive. Once you feel you are competitive and you think Malaysia is not the place ... work elsewhere and they will pay you better and squeeze the living lights of you better as well. Honestly removal of subsidy is the way to go towards achieving better competitiveness. And I have been to countries where there's just too much subsidy - you really wish like you want to go back home to Malaysia.

if put corruption issue in, everyone can blame on government, if you are not happy, vote for changes

either Mr.A cut down his expenses or work hard to get increment, that's it, simple. Instead of whining, find a solution to settle the problem

This post has been edited by yhtan: Jul 16 2010, 12:10 PM

yea lo, malaysia the best, thats why last year 300k rich ppl left malaysia.

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Added on July 16, 2010, 12:16 pmyea lo, thats why 90% workers are below rm3000, so out of 1.2 million working class, only 10% paying tax lo.

This is a good solution, no money, find money, simple.



This post has been edited by stinger82: Jul 16 2010, 12:31 PM

90% less than rm3k, where u get that figure. I agree with no money find money. If your current company not paying u high enough, go somewhere else. If required, upgrade ur skill.

You don't tell me you wan high salary, no need to work, no need to pay tax, gomen sponsor everything? this kinda thing like doesn't exist in the world. If got tell me, i'll be the first to go.

Try denmark or any of the scandinavian country. Govt pay 90% of your last salary for up to 4 years after you get fired.

Anyway we are going offtopic and into govt bashing.

slightly better than which country? Indonesia and Phillipines and Cambodia? Want to compare with poorer countries?

Bribery is causing tons of unseen money went to someone's pocket. Start from small bribery you see small problem but it escalates up to higher levels where millions or even billions are siphoned into personal accounts. Which part of those money is distributed to you? Slightly better?

Those money could have helped with building the nation and helping the poor. Having the country developed means better economy for everyone. Petrol can cost RM4 per litre but perfectly fine when the people can afford it.

huh, it took me like 1 hour to look for the news to support this, you are very lazy, next time read more newspaper ok?

Idris Jala RIGHTLY pointed out;
Only 1 out of 11 working Malaysians pay income tax.
Out of a population of 28 million Malaysians, only 1 million pay income tax.
40% of the country's total revenue comes from the oil and gas industry.


http://www.malaysianmirror.com/homedetail/...iah-without-gst

http://romerz.blogspot.com/2010/04/pariahs-born-or-made.html

and dont get the illusion that i make less money because i'm concerned about the poor.

every year i pay tax, and usually its my 1-2 months salary.

I'm concerned because i've been to a better country( perhaps the best country in the world), and i see how things can be better. If you only go to msia, singapore, then of cos msia is better. At least got highway drive your ferrari.