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stinger82
post Jul 16 2010, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Vincent Pang @ Jul 16 2010, 12:44 PM)
90% less than rm3k, where u get that figure. I agree with no money find money. If your current company not paying u high enough, go somewhere else. If required, upgrade ur skill.

You don't tell me you wan high salary, no need to work, no need to pay tax, gomen sponsor everything? this kinda thing like doesn't exist in the world. If got tell me, i'll be the first to go.
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er.... gomen sponsored Disneyland, high salary no work ( GLC Director), datuk's children get scholarship to oversea because of whom they are, not because of what they can. This is all happening in bolehland. You can start by reading malaysia-today forum ,and less lowyat forum, lol.

Sorry for making this forum sounded like malaysia-today. I'll leave this forum for pure FnF talk only.


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So, FnF talk= 5 cents petrol increase= acceptable,

cos big car=rich=no problem. Small car=fuel efficient=no problem.

As if i'm in secondary school forum, lol.

sorry for getting emotional, no hard feelings, i guess i'm caffeine overdose, lol. pardon me. ^^

have a great weekend guys.
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post Jul 16 2010, 01:40 PM

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It's a bad news for sales person ;(
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post Jul 16 2010, 01:41 PM

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So in conclusion, if any of you here have not yet registered yourself to be a voter, please do so in preparation for the next general election.

Do encourage your friends, family and colleagues to register themselves as voters as well.
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post Jul 16 2010, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jul 16 2010, 01:41 PM)
So in conclusion, if any of you here have not yet registered yourself to be a voter, please do so in preparation for the next general election.

Do encourage your friends, family and colleagues to register themselves as voters as well.
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post Jul 16 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 16 2010, 09:59 AM)
Now it is officially free float without subsidy. Previously the framework has not been set when they launch the RON95. That means the petrol company can start using promotions on the RON97 to attract their customers.

I believe they did that once and every week, the SHell and Petronas opposite each other in USJ were selling petrol at 1 cent cheaper then each other until the gov stepped in and stopped them since they are giving offers on subsidised petrol.

Now I think they can start the price war again.
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Price war is good, in the sense that when all subsidies are removed, the market determines the price of the product. We have a right to choose which station gives more goodies to their customers. Think of the improved services like toilets, amenities and etc. Heck we might even get fuel rebates from supermarkets like ASDA or TESCO in UK.

I'm quite positive that when subsidies are removed, petrol companies would be pushed to introduce better quality fuels maybe even Euro4 diesel. These are all likely to happen in a free market.
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post Jul 16 2010, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(jeremy0 @ Jul 16 2010, 03:54 PM)
Price war is good, in the sense that when all subsidies are removed, the market determines the price of the product.
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Yay! All subsidies removed! Can choose between Toyota, Honda, Proton since all same price!! Open market!



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post Jul 16 2010, 04:02 PM

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i fuel this afternoon at shell...the price already stat rm1.85...
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post Jul 16 2010, 04:13 PM

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i tot afta started for cars d?
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post Jul 16 2010, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(hye @ Jul 16 2010, 11:56 AM)
I briefly read this and here's a fact.

In Thailand, fuel prices are not subsidized. Folks there there have been living happily for a while without any subsidy all these while.

My point is that ... we have been so comfortable living in subsidy thus all these problems arise. If you are complaining about the gov, tell me where in the world the gov is corruption free ? Mamak teh tarik prices goes up coz he maintains the level of sugar in the drinks. Carbonated water manufacturers are not fault free as well. We have one of the highest content of sugar in our drinks in the world.

Compare the sugar content in a can of Coke in Japan, Korea, China, Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia and you'll see.

I felt Malaysians should grow up and learn to be competitive. Once you feel you are competitive and you think Malaysia is not the place ... work elsewhere and they will pay you better and squeeze the living lights of you better as well. Honestly removal of subsidy is the way to go towards achieving better competitiveness. And I have been to countries where there's just too much subsidy - you really wish like you want to go back home to Malaysia.
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I agree with that you said ... subsidies are something sooner or later have to remove one, it is not a gov obligation to give you money for petrol, sugar ...


But of course what a gov responsible is to increase our country's economy strength, and thus everyone become wealthier, if everyone pocket is not kosong, then inflation and removal of subsidies will affect us less ... if gov make public transport n city planning better, then we would less rely on petrol right?

My main point is ... removal of subsidies is not a wrong move. Just that they forgot to improve our economy strength and public transport b4 remove it.
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post Jul 16 2010, 06:02 PM

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i hope all the subsidies are gone, when it hit 2.70 roads were nice and clear and yet to hear anybody died from that period
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post Jul 16 2010, 06:14 PM

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hmm,only 5 cents also wanna kecoh ka?haiya..don't use car la like that..simple..it's x like 50 cent...


Added on July 16, 2010, 6:15 pm
QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jul 16 2010, 05:27 PM)
I agree with that you said ... subsidies are something sooner or later have to remove one, it is not a gov obligation to give you money for petrol, sugar ...
But of course what a gov responsible is to increase our country's economy strength, and thus everyone become wealthier, if everyone pocket is not kosong, then inflation and removal of subsidies will affect us less ... if gov make public transport n city planning better, then we would less rely on petrol right?

My main point is ... removal of subsidies is not a wrong move. Just that they forgot to improve our economy strength and public transport b4 remove it.
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ini baru pemikiran yg matang bro..i agree with u..well done mate. smile.gif

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post Jul 19 2010, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(D_Predator @ Jul 16 2010, 06:14 PM)
hmm,only 5 cents also wanna kecoh ka?haiya..don't use car la like that..simple..it's x like 50 cent...
5 cents or 50 cents. Still our hard earned money.


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post Jul 19 2010, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 16 2010, 01:25 PM)
huh, it took me like 1 hour to look for the news to support this, you are very lazy, next time read more newspaper ok?

Idris Jala RIGHTLY pointed out;
Only 1 out of 11 working Malaysians pay income tax.
Out of a population of 28 million Malaysians, only 1 million pay income tax.
40% of the country's total revenue comes from the oil and gas industry.
http://www.malaysianmirror.com/homedetail/...iah-without-gst

http://romerz.blogspot.com/2010/04/pariahs-born-or-made.html

and dont get the illusion that i make less money because i'm concerned about the poor.

every year i pay tax, and usually its my 1-2 months salary.

I'm concerned because i've been to a better country( perhaps the best country in the world), and i see how things can be better.  If you only go to msia, singapore, then of cos msia is better. At least got highway drive your ferrari.
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i like your figure, but u tend to interpret it differently. the 10 who doesn't pay tax is not ELIGIBLE or DO NOT wan to pay ? I seen a lot of businessman who drove mercedes and claimed they work less than RM3k. And i have seen a lot of hawker who doesn't know wat is tax also. If the 10 is not eligible, then i would strongly agree with u. Maybe you should take up extra english classes before you read newspaper or you would start misinterpreting a lot of things.
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jul 16 2010, 06:02 PM)
i hope all the subsidies are gone, when it hit 2.70 roads were nice and clear and yet to hear anybody died from that period
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post Jul 19 2010, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(MaxWealth @ Jul 16 2010, 01:40 PM)
It's a bad news for sales person ;(
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u don't claim ur mileage from your company ka?
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 16 2010, 01:25 PM)
huh, it took me like 1 hour to look for the news to support this, you are very lazy, next time read more newspaper ok?

Idris Jala RIGHTLY pointed out;
Only 1 out of 11 working Malaysians pay income tax.
Out of a population of 28 million Malaysians, only 1 million pay income tax.
40% of the country's total revenue comes from the oil and gas industry.
http://www.malaysianmirror.com/homedetail/...iah-without-gst

http://romerz.blogspot.com/2010/04/pariahs-born-or-made.html

and dont get the illusion that i make less money because i'm concerned about the poor.

every year i pay tax, and usually its my 1-2 months salary.

I'm concerned because i've been to a better country( perhaps the best country in the world), and i see how things can be better.  If you only go to msia, singapore, then of cos msia is better. At least got highway drive your ferrari.
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income tax collection is RM80bil in 2009.

just for your info.
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they just care their pocket but not rakyat pocket...
they might know they will lose in next GE and trying to make our country near to bankrupt so they can make PKR to have a hard time taking over putrajaya~
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jul 16 2010, 06:02 PM)
i hope all the subsidies are gone, when it hit 2.70 roads were nice and clear and yet to hear anybody died from that period
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funny thing isnt it? everyone of us can afford expensive new Handphone every 6-12 months, big cars, but cannot afford petrol. tongue.gif

IMO, our petrol/sugar/oil should have been priced the same as our neighbor long b4 now. I do not see a freaking reason why should a businessman who open a restaurant get all these subsidize.

And those Silly fisherman are still enjoying RM1.25 rates and complain about the hike, wheres they are not the poorest group in the country. Why the heck we should pay our tax money to those silly fisherman?
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post Jul 20 2010, 04:26 PM

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when the RON97 subsidies is take off.. How much is the current market price?
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post Jul 20 2010, 05:08 PM

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We are an oil producing nation so we should compare petrol price with other oil producing nations like Brunei, Arab Saudi, Iran, Nigeria and then we will know our oil is bloody expensive.

Can we compare durian price between Malaysia and Japan? smile.gif It's not correct because Japan is an importer so obviously it's more expensive.

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