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stinger82
post Jul 16 2010, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(yap.ben @ Jul 16 2010, 09:08 AM)
If float it should be updated daily rather than monthly.


Added on July 16, 2010, 9:19 amI realize that the gomen sector using a lot of non-local brand vehicles for instance JPJ using Immigration and Fortuner 2.7L, Highway patrol police using X-Trail and a fleet of EvoX. All this are fuel guzzling vehicle. There is no need for the 2.7L Fortuner as the 2.5L Diesel is cheaper on the running cost n cheaper as well better still use the Exora if they need the space. As for the Police why Evo n not the Satria GTi? After all they only travel in pairs and most 3 person the most!! Y are we paying for their luxury and petrol?  I've 5 polis Evo X patrolling 2 rows of shophouses at the same time escorting a chief to the Bank!!  Is this the right way waste?  If they want their presence to be felt, I suggest use a Hi-ace or better still their FRU truck which can carry more personnel!!  Gomen always said that we were subsidized in BILLIONS of RM for petrol but in actual fact, how many % of the petrol subsidized by the Gomen are used/enjoyed by the people ?
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agree!! finally someone noticed this too.

they ask us to bear the cost, they ask us to help to pay for gomen deficit budget, and they continue wasting the money.

Its funny that when they are working they are driving an expensive car, and after work, they gone home with a motor cycle.

This country is not healthy. Gomen office is way way more luxury than their own house.

If i tell you how much they spend to renovate gomen building, you'll go crazy. Contractor told me, they can spend RM8000 on a tile 2X2, import from spain. Yea,Rm8k on a 2x2 tile. imagine how many millions to renovate a building.


Added on July 16, 2010, 9:58 am
QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 16 2010, 09:55 AM)
If you make it big, then any country is the same. Infact, 3rd world country is better (read : Malaysia, Indon, Thai etc).

If you are middle class, then go Singapore, you're better off there.

If you are poor, then you dont have a choice.
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If you're poor, you better go live in western country, like Uk, germany, france, USA.

USA everything is cheap. Uk tax is a little steep. France worker is bigger than boss. Germany, they rather continue to hire you than to fire you because the cost of firing you is higher than continue to employ you, lol.

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post Jul 16 2010, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Vincent Pang @ Jul 16 2010, 10:00 AM)
so you are saying malaysian are richer than ppl in UK, Germany, France and USA ?

IMHO, if you are poor, stay in a even poorer country like Indonesia, Thailand, certain part of China. Their average majority monthly income is less than RM1k per month.
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no la, i mean, if you're poor, and you stay in western countries i mentioned above, your right is protected.

in Msia,Thai, China, poor man's life is cheaper than dirt ( esp in china). While in those western countries, you have your human rights and you are treated equally.

US medical fee is a little high, but if you have a job, your employer need to pay it. And all hospital will treat you first, then only talk about money ( real experience).

While in msia, you take out your credit card or you borrow from anyone you know or take your medical card, other wise, you need to try your luck in public hospital.

But to be frank, rich man = better stay in Third world countries, you can do whatever you want, you can kill someone and get off with it.

Poor man= better stay in first world countries, your right is protected and you are treated equally, and no racism ( minimum).
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:35 AM

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the best is sugar also increase ma, teh ais will increase price too..
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post Jul 16 2010, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 16 2010, 11:00 AM)
damage had been done when the fuel price went up to RM2.70, so why argue over it? crude oil will be more expensive if the demand grow and fuel price will increase in the future

for the 5 cent increase, i think it is acceptable lah, let Ron97 floating also a wise choice, too much of subsidize won't help the country growth
those who need more "vroom vroom" won't subsidize by government, isn't that fair for us?
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under the name fair, everything not subsidize, and then, where does the money go??

imagine Mr.A a low income person ( income less than 3k) , government removes all subsidy, so, what benefit did you get? Yea, you will feel happy, those sxxker that drives a big car will feel the pinch?? Those who go mamak will feel the pinch? and how about a low income like Mr.A, what actual benefit does he get? Other than the feeling of happy that justice has been done?

Just like a fren of mine, when petrol is RM2.70, he was so happy, cos he driving motor, and he jealous ppl driving car, lol.

Remove all subsidy will not help country grows, it will make you poorer, and those in power has more money to siphon, thats all.

Stop the subsidy argument unless someone can show how do we actually benefit from this.

I rather gomen waste the money subsidizing us, than spend it all on mega projects where they get 30% kick backs, and use all into buying ferraris and sending their kids to oversea with our money.


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post Jul 16 2010, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(hye @ Jul 16 2010, 11:56 AM)
I briefly read this and here's a fact.

In Thailand, fuel prices are not subsidized. Folks there there have been living happily for a while without any subsidy all these while.

My point is that ... we have been so comfortable living in subsidy thus all these problems arise. If you are complaining about the gov, tell me where in the world the gov is corruption free ? Mamak teh tarik prices goes up coz he maintains the level of sugar in the drinks. Carbonated water manufacturers are not fault free as well. We have one of the highest content of sugar in our drinks in the world.

Compare the sugar content in a can of Coke in Japan, Korea, China, Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia and you'll see.

I felt Malaysians should grow up and learn to be competitive. Once you feel you are competitive and you think Malaysia is not the place ... work elsewhere and they will pay you better and squeeze the living lights of you better as well. Honestly removal of subsidy is the way to go towards achieving better competitiveness. And I have been to countries where there's just too much subsidy - you really wish like you want to go back home to Malaysia.
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yea lo, malaysia the best, thats why last year 300k rich ppl left malaysia.



Added on July 16, 2010, 12:16 pm
QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 16 2010, 12:08 PM)
if put corruption issue in, everyone can blame on government, if you are not happy, vote for changes

either Mr.A cut down his expenses or work hard to get increment, that's it, simple. Instead of whining, find a solution to settle the problem
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yea lo, thats why 90% workers are below rm3000, so out of 1.2 million working class, only 10% paying tax lo.

This is a good solution, no money, find money, simple.



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post Jul 16 2010, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Vincent Pang @ Jul 16 2010, 12:44 PM)
90% less than rm3k, where u get that figure. I agree with no money find money. If your current company not paying u high enough, go somewhere else. If required, upgrade ur skill.

You don't tell me you wan high salary, no need to work, no need to pay tax, gomen sponsor everything? this kinda thing like doesn't exist in the world. If got tell me, i'll be the first to go.
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huh, it took me like 1 hour to look for the news to support this, you are very lazy, next time read more newspaper ok?

Idris Jala RIGHTLY pointed out;
Only 1 out of 11 working Malaysians pay income tax.
Out of a population of 28 million Malaysians, only 1 million pay income tax.
40% of the country's total revenue comes from the oil and gas industry.


http://www.malaysianmirror.com/homedetail/...iah-without-gst

http://romerz.blogspot.com/2010/04/pariahs-born-or-made.html

and dont get the illusion that i make less money because i'm concerned about the poor.

every year i pay tax, and usually its my 1-2 months salary.

I'm concerned because i've been to a better country( perhaps the best country in the world), and i see how things can be better. If you only go to msia, singapore, then of cos msia is better. At least got highway drive your ferrari.
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post Jul 16 2010, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Vincent Pang @ Jul 16 2010, 12:44 PM)
90% less than rm3k, where u get that figure. I agree with no money find money. If your current company not paying u high enough, go somewhere else. If required, upgrade ur skill.

You don't tell me you wan high salary, no need to work, no need to pay tax, gomen sponsor everything? this kinda thing like doesn't exist in the world. If got tell me, i'll be the first to go.
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er.... gomen sponsored Disneyland, high salary no work ( GLC Director), datuk's children get scholarship to oversea because of whom they are, not because of what they can. This is all happening in bolehland. You can start by reading malaysia-today forum ,and less lowyat forum, lol.

Sorry for making this forum sounded like malaysia-today. I'll leave this forum for pure FnF talk only.


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So, FnF talk= 5 cents petrol increase= acceptable,

cos big car=rich=no problem. Small car=fuel efficient=no problem.

As if i'm in secondary school forum, lol.

sorry for getting emotional, no hard feelings, i guess i'm caffeine overdose, lol. pardon me. ^^

have a great weekend guys.

 

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