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matjenin86
post Jul 16 2010, 07:36 AM

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sure 5 cent only. but seller might exaggerate it and increase price of food.
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post Jul 16 2010, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(Empathy @ Jul 16 2010, 02:10 AM)
If RON 97 is free float, it should be up or down regularly according to the current crude oil price...but all this time I see that the RON 97 is stagnant... hmm.gif something is definitely wrong here...
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The problem with our Govt is the petrol price can go up, if market price is up, but if go down, they need to limit it so that the petrol station owner will not lose money, at least according to our Govt. Anyway, I just pump fuel in Washington states where the there are a lot of taxes and the price is like about RM2.5x per litre. I guess the Govt want to remove the subsidy and at the same time incorporate some taxes to the fuel.
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post Jul 16 2010, 08:50 AM

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now alot of things sure will go up..... like nasi lemak sure about rm1.50 per pack....

now is petrol later is toll ...this year our g gave us alot of surprise
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post Jul 16 2010, 09:00 AM

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they build the new palace for the king mah.. rm800mil.. so now the rakyat paying rm750mil, n gomen pay rm50mil for the king, 1 person...

so in summary, let 20mil ppl suffer, for 1 person having a brand new hse..


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post Jul 16 2010, 09:08 AM

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If float it should be updated daily rather than monthly.


Added on July 16, 2010, 9:19 amI realize that the gomen sector using a lot of non-local brand vehicles for instance JPJ using Immigration and Fortuner 2.7L, Highway patrol police using X-Trail and a fleet of EvoX. All this are fuel guzzling vehicle. There is no need for the 2.7L Fortuner as the 2.5L Diesel is cheaper on the running cost n cheaper as well better still use the Exora if they need the space. As for the Police why Evo n not the Satria GTi? After all they only travel in pairs and most 3 person the most!! Y are we paying for their luxury and petrol? I've 5 polis Evo X patrolling 2 rows of shophouses at the same time escorting a chief to the Bank!! Is this the right way waste? If they want their presence to be felt, I suggest use a Hi-ace or better still their FRU truck which can carry more personnel!! Gomen always said that we were subsidized in BILLIONS of RM for petrol but in actual fact, how many % of the petrol subsidized by the Gomen are used/enjoyed by the people ?

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fortuner can save fuel if u play with the top/low gear and not always in D..
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jul 16 2010, 02:00 AM)
To increase just a pathetic 5 sens, they make all sorts of 'sympathetic' reasons. Way the go, Najib.

I think better we move to another country.
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Then go. Nobody is stopping you. If you can't make it big in Malaysia, you are not going to do any better elsewhere. What? Go to Singapore and compete with the Singaporeans?
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post Jul 16 2010, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jul 16 2010, 09:53 AM)
Then go. Nobody is stopping you. If you can't make it big in Malaysia, you are not going to do any better elsewhere. What? Go to Singapore and compete with the Singaporeans?
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If you make it big, then any country is the same. Infact, 3rd world country is better (read : Malaysia, Indon, Thai etc).

If you are middle class, then go Singapore, you're better off there.

If you are poor, then you dont have a choice.
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post Jul 16 2010, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(yap.ben @ Jul 16 2010, 09:08 AM)
If float it should be updated daily rather than monthly.


Added on July 16, 2010, 9:19 amI realize that the gomen sector using a lot of non-local brand vehicles for instance JPJ using Immigration and Fortuner 2.7L, Highway patrol police using X-Trail and a fleet of EvoX. All this are fuel guzzling vehicle. There is no need for the 2.7L Fortuner as the 2.5L Diesel is cheaper on the running cost n cheaper as well better still use the Exora if they need the space. As for the Police why Evo n not the Satria GTi? After all they only travel in pairs and most 3 person the most!! Y are we paying for their luxury and petrol?  I've 5 polis Evo X patrolling 2 rows of shophouses at the same time escorting a chief to the Bank!!  Is this the right way waste?  If they want their presence to be felt, I suggest use a Hi-ace or better still their FRU truck which can carry more personnel!!  Gomen always said that we were subsidized in BILLIONS of RM for petrol but in actual fact, how many % of the petrol subsidized by the Gomen are used/enjoyed by the people ?
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agree!! finally someone noticed this too.

they ask us to bear the cost, they ask us to help to pay for gomen deficit budget, and they continue wasting the money.

Its funny that when they are working they are driving an expensive car, and after work, they gone home with a motor cycle.

This country is not healthy. Gomen office is way way more luxury than their own house.

If i tell you how much they spend to renovate gomen building, you'll go crazy. Contractor told me, they can spend RM8000 on a tile 2X2, import from spain. Yea,Rm8k on a 2x2 tile. imagine how many millions to renovate a building.


Added on July 16, 2010, 9:58 am
QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 16 2010, 09:55 AM)
If you make it big, then any country is the same. Infact, 3rd world country is better (read : Malaysia, Indon, Thai etc).

If you are middle class, then go Singapore, you're better off there.

If you are poor, then you dont have a choice.
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If you're poor, you better go live in western country, like Uk, germany, france, USA.

USA everything is cheap. Uk tax is a little steep. France worker is bigger than boss. Germany, they rather continue to hire you than to fire you because the cost of firing you is higher than continue to employ you, lol.

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post Jul 16 2010, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Empathy @ Jul 16 2010, 02:10 AM)
If RON 97 is free float, it should be up or down regularly according to the current crude oil price...but all this time I see that the RON 97 is stagnant... hmm.gif something is definitely wrong here...
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it's RM 2.05 already if i'm not mistaken
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QUOTE(Empathy @ Jul 16 2010, 02:10 AM)
If RON 97 is free float, it should be up or down regularly according to the current crude oil price...but all this time I see that the RON 97 is stagnant... hmm.gif something is definitely wrong here...
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Now it is officially free float without subsidy. Previously the framework has not been set when they launch the RON95. That means the petrol company can start using promotions on the RON97 to attract their customers.

I believe they did that once and every week, the SHell and Petronas opposite each other in USJ were selling petrol at 1 cent cheaper then each other until the gov stepped in and stopped them since they are giving offers on subsidised petrol.

Now I think they can start the price war again.
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 16 2010, 09:56 AM)

If i tell you how much they spend to renovate gomen building, you'll go crazy. Contractor told me, they can spend RM8000 on a tile 2X2, import from spain. Yea,Rm8k on a 2x2 tile. imagine how many millions to renovate a building.

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Think of it this way, 30% of RM8000 is more then 30% of RM80... right? wink.gif

So... govt project have always been bigger (and more expensive) better...
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:00 AM

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Added on July 16, 2010, 9:58 am
If you're poor, you better go live in western country, like Uk, germany, france, USA.

USA everything is cheap. Uk tax is a little steep. France worker is bigger than boss. Germany, they rather continue to hire you than to fire you because the cost of firing you is higher than continue to employ you, lol.
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so you are saying malaysian are richer than ppl in UK, Germany, France and USA ?

IMHO, if you are poor, stay in a even poorer country like Indonesia, Thailand, certain part of China. Their average majority monthly income is less than RM1k per month.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 16 2010, 09:55 AM)
If you make it big, then any country is the same. Infact, 3rd world country is better (read : Malaysia, Indon, Thai etc).

If you are middle class, then go Singapore, you're better off there.

If you are poor, then you dont have a choice.
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In fact the Indonesians which we have been abusing and looking down at them (until it made headlines there and here), has millionaires which are much more wealthy than us.
It is because of us looking down at others that we never look at our own selves what we went wrong. We always 'think' we are better than them.
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QUOTE(Vincent Pang @ Jul 16 2010, 10:00 AM)
so you are saying malaysian are richer than ppl in UK, Germany, France and USA ?

IMHO, if you are poor, stay in a even poorer country like Indonesia, Thailand, certain part of China. Their average majority monthly income is less than RM1k per month.
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no la, i mean, if you're poor, and you stay in western countries i mentioned above, your right is protected.

in Msia,Thai, China, poor man's life is cheaper than dirt ( esp in china). While in those western countries, you have your human rights and you are treated equally.

US medical fee is a little high, but if you have a job, your employer need to pay it. And all hospital will treat you first, then only talk about money ( real experience).

While in msia, you take out your credit card or you borrow from anyone you know or take your medical card, other wise, you need to try your luck in public hospital.

But to be frank, rich man = better stay in Third world countries, you can do whatever you want, you can kill someone and get off with it.

Poor man= better stay in first world countries, your right is protected and you are treated equally, and no racism ( minimum).
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i wonder how many BMWs Najib got for himself for successfully robbing the rakyat yet again..
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jul 16 2010, 10:05 AM)
In fact the Indonesians which we have been abusing and looking down at them (until it made headlines there and here), has millionaires which are much more wealthy than us.
It is because of us looking down at others that we never look at our own selves what we went wrong. We always 'think' we are better than them.
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Indonesian wealth is not distributed properly. 4% of the population controls 90% of the economy. You cannot consider that as a wealthy nation when the rest of the 96% fights for the remaining 10% wealth.
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post Jul 16 2010, 10:20 AM

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in Malaysia the wealth distribution is slightly better. Government + People who bribe them controls 90% of the economy. The others pay extra for everything.

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