can be upgraded to WM5 ??? the build in ram is just 64k i think cannot la
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Sep 13 2005, 04:22 PM
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Ic..
So it has to do with the built in RAM lar...  Haih, so sad so sad . |
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Sep 13 2005, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(coolfella @ Sep 12 2005, 01:16 AM) ATTENTION!! you mean the default with O2 one eh ... caller id right ... do a hard reset and surely can get one can someone give me the link for the contact id program?? please please please.. . .   or just install ringtoneX |
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Sep 13 2005, 04:45 PM
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just to ask you guys / gals
what programs do you've installed inside ur mini  mine:  1. Battery pack pro 2.0 2. Phoneplus 3.03 (cos the o2 one  )3. symantec handheld (juz in case) 4. Agenda Fusion 7.25 5. MemMaid 6. RescoExplorer 2005 7. Atomic Cannon (this game is addictive) and maybe ... a few more ....  |
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Sep 13 2005, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Sep 13 2005, 04:45 PM) just to ask you guys / gals SPB Pocket Plus 3what programs do you've installed inside ur mini mine: 1. Battery pack pro 2.0 2. Phoneplus 3.03 (cos the o2 one )3. symantec handheld (juz in case) 4. Agenda Fusion 7.25 5. MemMaid 6. RescoExplorer 2005 7. Atomic Cannon (this game is addictive) and maybe ... a few more .... TCPMP Player PHM Reg Editer TV Remote Controller GSPlayer Microsoft Reader Pocket Mechanic HandSee spectrum Sound Analyzer Pocket Earth Microsoft Voice Command GAMES: Snails Insaniquarium Virtua Pool Mobile Bejewelled P;S Whats the advantages of using MemMaid? This post has been edited by julchin_09: Sep 14 2005, 06:54 PM |
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Sep 13 2005, 05:30 PM
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very old question.. are we able to voicedial over bluetooth headset with the o2 mini...YET? its really irritating me..bad.. i want my voicedial.
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Sep 13 2005, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Sep 13 2005, 04:16 PM) can be upgraded to WM5 ??? the build in ram is just 64k i think cannot la there is 128MB ROM for program and user data. and the new mini will be coming together with Microsoft Windows Mobile(tm) Version 5 Pocket PC Phone Edition. and sometime ago, i read that the processor for the new mini is acctually like dual core. 1 processor for the pda and 1 for the phone, dun ask me for details about this, as i am not sure myself, but i believe there will be dedicated processors for the mini, and we should not compare the intel preocessor's MHz with the OMAP 850, as MHz is not a valid comparison between brands of processor. The Qtec 9100 Mobile Pocket PC is also known as I-Mate K-Jam and O2 XDA mini S technical details of the QTek 9100 (Qtek wizard) : Processor/Chipset .TI OMAP 850 Memory .ROM: 128 MB (for programs and users' storage) .RAM: 64 MB SDRAM LCD Module .2.8" 240 x 320 dots resolution .64K-color TFT Transflective LCD with white LED back light .Sensitive Touch Screen .Support both Portrait and Landscape mode (keyboard sliding and soft button on today screen) .Screen rotation icon (portrait, right-hand landscape, or left-had landscape) and key lock icon (lock or unlock) on the bottom of status bar GSM/EDGE Function .Internal antenna .Quad-band (850/900/1800/1900) .Audio codec: AMR, EFR, FR, HR .SMS (MO, MT), concatenated SMS (640 characters) .Supplement services: .Call holding/waiting/forwarding .Call barring .CLI (Calling Line Identity) .Display own number .Network selection .Cell broadcast .Multi-party conference call .Spool icon .Phase 2+ unstructured supplementary service data .Network Lock .CPHS .EDGE Functionality .EGPRS class B .Multi-slot class 10 .PBCCH .Incremental Redundancy .SIM .1.8V/3V operation .SIM Application Tool Kit release 98 class 3 .Over the Air (OTA) programming .FDN .ADN .SDN .Security Pin 1 & 2 control Stylus .Lock type mechanism Keyboard/Button/Switch .Power button .One navigation pad (5-way) .Send/Hands-free button .End button .Voice command (right side) .Voice recorder (left side) .Volume up & down .Camera capture .2 AP buttons (Messaging-left button, Portal or PIE-right button) .2 soft keys Notification .One bi-color LED for GSM standby, GSM message, GSM network status, notification, and charging status .Two respective (blue and green) LEDs for bluetooth/WiFi notification .Vibration for notification .Notification by sound and message on the display Audio .Built-in Microphone .Receiver .Dual speakers on both sides .Loud speaker for Hands-Free supported .Full duplex .Audio sampling rate .16-bits with 8KHz, 11KHz, 22KHz, 44.1KHz .AMR/AAC/WAV/WMA/MP3 codec Camera .Main Camera (manufacture option) .CMOS 1.3Mega pixel with fixed lens .Or CMOS 2.1Mega pixel with macro lens / AF .Video/flash light .Preview Mirror Interface .Infrared IrDA SIR .Mini-SD card slot with door (top) .External antenna connector .1.8V/3V SIM card .2.5 Ø stereo audio jack Power .Battery .Removable and chargeable Lithium ion polymer battery, 1200mAh [TBD] .Charging time: less than 4 hours .Battery life: .PDA mode: 10 hours (running multimedia) [TBD] .Talk time: 4 ~ 5 hours [TBD] .Standby time: 200 hours [TBD] .AC adaptor .C input: 100 ~ 240V AC, 50/60 Hz .DC output: 5V and 2A Device-to-Device Connectivity .Bluetooth .Compliant with v1.2 .Class 2 transmit power .Supported profiles: .Generic Access profile .Serial Port profile .Headset profile .Object Push profile .DUN profile .File Transfer profile .Hands-free profile .Generic Object Exchange profile .AV profile .PAN profile .HID profile .Co-exist with WiFi .WiFi (manufacture option) .IEEE 802.11b/g compliant .Internal WLAN antenna .11, 5.5, 2, and 1 Mbps per channel, auto fallback for extended range .ELP mode .Support 802.11i & AES .Security .WPA authentication - WEP, PSK, EAP-TLS, PEAP, LEAP .Signaling interfaces between the terminal device and the servers: mutually authenticated and encrypted utilizing TLS (RFC 2246) with RC4 encryption with SGA1 used as the message integrity check .QoS .802.11 WME QoS .802.11e is preferred .Fast AP to AP handover .Infrared IrDA SIR .Mini-USB .Mini-SD Accessories .AC adapter w/ mini-USB plug .Carrying Case .Sync. Cable (mini-USB/USB) .Battery (rechargeable and replaceable) .Stereo wired headset with microphone .Mono bluetooth headset with microphone (optional) .Stereo bluetooth headset with microphone (optional) .Car adapter (optinal) .Car kit w/car stereo mute function (optional) .Hanger .Travel Charger .Mini-USB .1 slot for 2nd battery charging .LED indicator for charging . However, cradle may be requested, so main unit shall be able to be charged and sync. with cradle. .Cradle (optional) . User manual, quick start guide, sync. software CD) Pocket PC Phone Edition Applications .Microsoft Pocket Outlook: Inbox, Contacts, Calendar, Tasks .Microsoft Windows Media Player .Microsoft MSN Messenger .Microsoft Pocket Internet Explorer . Microsoft ActiveSync .Games .Calculator .Voice Notes .Photo Caller ID .Closed User Group Value Added Applications MASD .Photo Album with editing picture capability .Camera capture utility .Camcorder (H.263 and MPEG4 encoder and decoder, 15 fps for QCIF encoding, 30 fps for QCIF decoding)[TBD] .Zip .Polyphonic MIDI Ringtone Engine .IntelliDial .IntelliPad .SmartLauncher (operator depend) MSD .MMS with video clip support .MPEG4 Video/Audio Streaming Services .JAVA virtual machine (J2ME, CLDC1.1, MIDP 2.0, JTWI) .ClearVue Suite - PowerPoint, PDF Viewer . FAX (Optional) .Voice command/voice dial/Text-to-speech .OMA DRM 1.0/2.0 (TBD) .Blackberry email client (Optional) .SVG Tiny / Basic (MMS only) SW .XBackup & Restore .Wireless Modem (IR, USB, Bluetooth, WiFi, EDGE) base on the specs.... there are so many technical description that i could not understand at all....... sry for the long post ..... This post has been edited by lukeboone: Sep 13 2005, 09:44 PM |
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Sep 13 2005, 07:56 PM
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Haha...
Give yourself a pat on the back...  .I read the specs b4 but was too lazy to copy it here. Well looks like some serious specs. If only they changed the LCD to maybe 3". But then they would have to compromise other areas like weight and size. I think this will be a seller for O2 or HTC though im still trying to swallow the fact that they added the QWERTY keypad. Besides that this device is a dream. |
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Sep 13 2005, 08:38 PM
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yeah... i also heard taht the keyboard, might have the same problem like those of XDA, the slider tents to get loose after 1 to 2 months of usage... nad any1 can confirm the processing speed ? is it slower or faster or the same ?
i think this phone is already on sale in germany... |
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Sep 13 2005, 10:09 PM
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i can't get the TV remote controller program to work... how does it work?
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Sep 13 2005, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(hamikangtao @ Sep 13 2005, 10:09 PM) i can't get the TV remote controller program to work... how does it work? You must set it to learn first. Example: You have a Sony Television, then tap on the learn function and start learning. Add new device and name it e.g Sony TV. Click start learning n Click on any button you wanna start learn e.g channel 8, then using the actual button from the Sony remote controller tap the no.8 button facing the remote to the IR port of your Mini. You will hear a confirmation sound. Then continue[I] tapping Start learning and do the same process for the other buttons. When you're done tap end learning. Im using this to control my ASTRO dish as my original remote Kaput . |
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Sep 14 2005, 10:03 AM
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the new mini a.k.a. HTC Wizard still only has 65k TFT???
When are they gonna put in a 256K one??? |
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Sep 14 2005, 10:47 AM
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where can i get games and themes for xda mini?
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Sep 14 2005, 11:14 AM
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advantages of using memmaid .... :
" The program integrates multiple clean up and environment controls in a single utility, with a very easy to use interface. Pocket Internet Explorer will store its cache files in a different folder. Like other Windows based computers, some programs use uninstall files, and almost all programs store information on a special storage called the Registry. Keeping these files, information and other pieces of data under control helps us manage the device, sometimes avoiding negative impact on its performance. Another good example is the Notifications Database. Windows Mobile 2003 OS sometimes fails to clean up this important database, and some notification entries are not removed, or are duplicated. With time this database will grow to a quite large size, causing all sort of problems and creating problems with notifications, alarms and other tasks that depend on event handling." full review : http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=2977 and work really gr8 |
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Sep 14 2005, 11:15 AM
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For games --- u can try the trial at
http://www.pocketgear.com they have a lot of games there .... Themes u can dload at O2 site or can make ur own using theme maker from MS This post has been edited by cruzzmz: Sep 14 2005, 11:16 AM |
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Sep 14 2005, 11:18 AM
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Voice dial ... try MS voice commander or frm Vito .... never use them yet ... mayb next time ... cos I'm using PhonePlus
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Sep 14 2005, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Sep 14 2005, 10:03 AM) the new mini a.k.a. HTC Wizard still only has 65k TFT??? Soemtime there's reason why still uses 56k color in pda phone...To save battery..Even now the PDA drain too quick of battery.. and their 65K display is nicer than many 262K display HPWhen are they gonna put in a 256K one??? |
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Sep 14 2005, 01:48 PM
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more on 65K vs 262K on Windows Mobile Devices:
Windows Mobile Team Blog Article: Having More Colors Is A Good Thing, Isn't It? preview: QUOTE A Packing Problem You need the CPU to write things into the Frame Buffer. Since a pixel is 16 bits and the CPU really likes to deal with data 32 bits at a time you just write 2 pixels at once. This makes everything happy. But what would happen if you had 18 bits per pixel? The first pixel would line up on a boundary that the CPU is happy with. But the next one wouldn't. Neither would the one after that. Things wouldn't line up again until the 16th pixel. So, 15 out of every 16 pixels are handled in a way that's really inefficient for the CPU. 18 bits just don't fit together well in a world of 32s. For this reason, the RGB 666 pixel format (18 bit) just doesn't exist. It's not natively supported in any operating system I'm aware of. Not CE, XP, Mac, Unix, Palm, or Symbian. But wait. There's a competitor's phone out right now that advertises having a 262144 color screen. They must support 18 bit color, right? Actually, no they don't. They support 24 bit color, and then they throw away the data from 6 of the extra 8 bits. Have you ever tried to fit two suitcases into a trunk only to find that they're just a tiny bit too big to fit? What did you do? Most likely, you put a smaller suitcase in the extra space. But what if you didn't have a smaller suitcase? In that case, you probably put the one suitcase in the trunk and left a lot of wasted space around it. That's what's happening with anyone who is supporting an 18 bit screen. Because the 18 bits don't pack together well, they leave empty space around them. Enough mumbo jumbo. What does this really mean? It comes down to this. If you want to make use of those extra colors, your frame buffer needs to be either 50% or 100% bigger than it is now. Filling that frame buffer will be correspondingly 50% to 100% slower. Things that require the screen be updated frequently (watching movies, taking pictures, playing games) will go slower. Games in particular, are hard hit. Games based on the old Game API (GAPI) will need to do a slow conversion, or they won't work at all. Newer DirectDraw games will do better, but will still be slower on a 24 bit system than on a 16 bit one. Windows CE supports both forms of 24 bit color (24 and 32 bits). If an OEM really wants to "make use" of that 18 bit screen, they can. The question you need to be asking yourselves, however, is whether or not it's worth the cost. Is a marginally better image worth slower graphics? It is my belief that the tradeoff isn't worthwhile. I see this as a marketing battle, not a technical one. The competition wants to put the bigger number in their bullet points so they can be "better" even though, in my opinion at least, it makes them worse. Here's a quick and dirty desktop app written by one of our hardware guys. It lets you load a 24 bit image and compare it to what it would look like in 18 and 16 bit. Because it's so hard to see a difference, the app also shows a 12 bit image. Nothing does 12 bit anymore, but you can look at the faults in that image to give you an idea where to look for differences in the 16 and 18 ones. The App requires that you have .net 2.0 installed. Sorry, it's what we had handy on short notice. You can decide for yourself whether the differences in 18 and 16 bit are worth the corresponding ram and speed costs. This post has been edited by 8431: Sep 14 2005, 01:53 PM |
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Sep 14 2005, 06:47 PM
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Haih,
Had a torrid time changing my screen protector today. Finally got a Martin Fields and wanted to replace my old one. Removing the old protector and cleaning the LCD went fine. Then it was time to install the new one. After taking out the new protector from its warp, I dropped it on the carpet. Close observations showed a lot f dust particles. Has to run it under a tap and dry with a hair dryer. Then I forgot which side is supposed to be on top...luckily i took a guess and the protector stuck to the surface(I hope only one side is adhesive and not both or I might be on the wrong side  ).Worth the trouble though. Was using the cheap RM15 Screen Mask brand and the change to this one was a huge difference. It actually looks glossy and clear compared to the other blurry one. PLus the stylus now glides effortlessly along the LCD surface. Though I bought for RM50 Digital Gadgetss Low Yatt. Anybody know where else to get it at a cheaper price? |
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Sep 14 2005, 07:57 PM
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Shit, my Mini just hard-reset itself on Monday noon time while I'm fishing in the middle of the sea!!!!
So damn sad that time until I found out I did a backup a month ago. But it still won't help cause all my recent valuable data has gone... Sigh, just simply hang while I try to take a pic of a fish that my friend manage to get from the sea, then I just press the soft reset button and 'boom', it hard reset itself without giving me any signal!!!! |
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