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andrekua
post Aug 20 2010, 09:01 PM

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WTH... I got 60 posts here???
Really aaa?

BTW, Nokia really taking his sweet time with N8 release. I do wonder if this would helps with the speed of the development. I think Nokia did more update to the 5800 after getting feedback from user instead of in house testing.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 20 2010, 09:19 PM)
Is there any source to this information because the last i read on the net they are still trying to port it because android is java and QT is C+++  tongue.gif two different platform
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Probably Nokia has given up hope of luring developers and instead trying to lure user with it. Maybe they can get it working with Android because its easier to work with, ie Java. However, I dont think they will get permission to use Iphone apps.

Besides the main concern is how will it perform. Instead of doing emulation which perform badly, Qt gonna call the native API for it. I think it will a huge challenge to even make them work within different type of Symbian OS, somemore with other platform. Unless they standardised Symbian into one of a kind for all their smartphone like whats happening with Android and Iphone OS, this will remain a dream which many will continue to adore.
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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Aug 20 2010, 10:06 PM)
Lulz...well I dun think so...N8 only supports apps which was written with QT toolkit. And the existing apps that was written for android OS and Apple etcetc cannot run on N8, not before the developer port their apps to Qt.
And although there are some QT ports out there, such as for WebOS, i dun think that it will reach the same compatibility level of the Symbian OS and Meego provides. Although I would like to be proven wrong here nod.gif
And come on, do you think draconian Apple gonna let other runtimes to work on their phones/ OS? rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif

And no spamming plz...Keep this thread clean lulz icon_rolleyes.gif
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If they can lure developers to write in Qt, Nokia would dump Symbian and any other OS it has because they just have to collect royalties from whoever that licence Qt including Apple and Google. Not so easy to be done. It would however make switching between Nokia phone less painful for both developers and users if they managed to get it work within their own Symbian/Meego/Maemo.

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 20 2010, 10:25 PM)
Thats why. It took zenbound to port from iphone to QT at least 4months. Dont think they will just allow it
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Nokia should just put that aside for the moment. Right now they should not be bothered about it.
What I really wish Nokia do is to listen to end-user request as to the UI, user interaction, software and how they wish it could be like and improve from there.

There is nothing wrong with Symbian really, despite the boring UI. In fact, the boring UI is quite easier to learn which make adoption easier. The problems lies within their approach on how their software like web browser should interact with user etc. Did Android have wifi teethering first? No, it was Symbian. However it come with a price. So at times, if things that is possible and could be made free, user tend to appreciate it even though they might not have a use for it.
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I think no need get too work up for all the DSLR comparison. I think a lot of camera also can't take photo without having noise. My LX3 also big sensor but at 1:1 ratio, pic does show noise, even with iso400.
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yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif
Good morning...

A day less in waiting...
One month till the preview and probably another till the release...

yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif

Tonite will be going to SIS appreciation night... I wonder whats its like.
Never been before.

BTW, I think you should grab N8 at launch if you really wanted it badly. Just look at HTC. Totally blacklisted AMOLED due to shortage. I think N8 will suffer the same fate if it proved to be popular. Later get LCD part really sien I tell you. AMOLED black is nice and no bleeding. Just nice to watch movie...
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Are you sure?

AFAIK, Apple never really uses other LCD part before. It has always maintain the same S-IPS screen from LG all across its Iphone, Ipad, Imac etc.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 21 2010, 07:05 AM)
S-IPS a type if LCD lo.....


Added on August 21, 2010, 7:07 am
Use 3310 first la......
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They are very different despite being ALL LCDs...

S-LCD = S-PVA (good black level)
S-IPS = good color reproduction

There's also normal LCD aka TN which is good at nothing...


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Once you tried Android, you will never look at back liao especially with the current state of Symbian sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Relogin liao... if wanna shoot me for the above comments, just do it...

Ter-use my bro acc... sharing office pc sucks
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 21 2010, 03:08 PM)
People can see Android progress but can't see Symbian progress. :\

Anyway, MeeGo All THE WAY laugh.gif
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You scare or not with Meego? Look at Maemo. Look at S90. Nokia is not bad... thats why I have hope, but the anger of thinking they just leave you there to die slowly just sucks...
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QUOTE(Deswin @ Aug 21 2010, 03:38 PM)
gonna get x10 soon....  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Serious???

I thought that was a bad idea. Is SE gonna deliver on their promises?
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SupRaBuFu
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 21 2010, 04:55 PM)
Like u said  the ppl u met aka alot that is only your circle of friends you cannot assume the whole world is like you.
U didnt answer my question so with all this negativity what's with the market share of nokia? I know you will say future that is the future not today. If what you said is true with your prediction you should be owning one of the mobile company by now. If you are not something is not right. Its because your assumption is base on your circle of friends and not the entire polulation of the world. From your prespective its useful as a modern day consumer but not in the business point of view.
You didnt read my reply properly, let me rephase nokia creates simplicity to suit different category ppl. What did iphone and android do example for such needs? None its as simple you are in or you are not? Future is future every company already have the technology in hand the question is they have a roadmap when to launch it.

First how much is the official price of nokia N8?
Have you tested a nokia N8?
How do you know it lag?
How heavy is it on hand?
How the photo quality?

We dont buy our phone cheap, thats why comparison makes sense.
If you prepare a FULL COMPARISON FROM SOFTWARE TO HARDWARE then i totally agree with your above statement. Look forward to see your comparison.
If wanna compare then compare all not processor and OS the rest forget it.

so can you share with us how do u compare ? Price and specification? so if i have a notebook and a mobile phone does it means  i should buy it over your SGS and iphone if i prefer better specification and price.
I know you sound intelligent but how do you connect the puzzle? If everyone is so good as you can read the future you are sure a billionaire when u type the above. If you are not there is a problem.

No offense to you or anyone its just for sharing purpose from my prespective even part of what you say do mix sense.

Nobody is right or wrong all this mobile company have different goal and aim to achieve the market share as simple as that.
Iphone u say simplicity
Android u say fancy stuff
Nokia u condemn they only useful for update?

Lastly Nokia N8 is nowhere seen there must be a reason only you do not know at the end i can guarantee you only in LYN there will 100 users and more.


Added on August 21, 2010, 4:56 pm

hhaha super ranger bufu
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I did not condemn N8. Why are you so sensitive about it? Why do I have to condemn something I havent got touch with. I was once skeptical about ARM capability in playing HD movies, and thats it. Not really N8 specific stuffs. Besides, Im just sharing the scenario that I met/seen throughout these 2 years with 5800/X6. I did however question the improvements that Nokia will bring forward with S3. I have always maintained that I used the word Symbian and not N8. Hardware is just merely part of the equation. However, I did highlight that Android based devices have more room for improvement due to its bigger RAM capacity and faster CPU which allows Google to introduce new stuffs instead of bug fixings and slightly improvement to the overall speed which is what Nokia has been doing for the past 2 years.

I do not predict the mobile market but its just part of the interesting stuffs that I read online. I do agree with the points they made and it makes sense. This is where I believe it could be heading, just as my ground, not that Im forcing you into believing what I just said. You can make your own assumption of this.

Phone comparison is very preferential. What I like do not mean you will like it too, thats why I think comparison is good. There's only one point where they dont differ much which is from a pricetag point. I could have gotten Desire or SGS but I choose Legend which is not much different from a pricetag point of view. Why? I do not need 3.7" nor do I need a 1GHz, but that does not mean that I shouldnt compare them. Of course I did make sure that the 400MHz difference was tad much to be ignored for me to adore the beauty of the one-piece Legend bodyshell while still get to enjoy all the goodies of Android. I did not mention the camera comparison because I still think phone camera sucks. N8 might have a big sensor but thats just part of the equation. DC is much more sophiscated than just relying on the sensor alone. I never once utilise my Legend 5MP camera. I dont find camera useful. In fact there are places where I had to leave my phone because camera is prohibited.
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QUOTE(allrightall @ Aug 21 2010, 05:42 PM)
This is N8 thread of cos the fans will support N8, just look at /k/ threads enough lolz.

Android is that way---------->
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So what...
This is an open forum... I choose where I want to be. I like Nokia, just hate the way they handled Symbian, Maemo. I used one Android phone, one WM5 phone and 5 Symbian phone. Who are you to tell me where I should be.
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QUOTE(ne0cz @ Aug 21 2010, 05:52 PM)
Haiya, want talk bad about Nokia, go elsewhere la...later the power rangers  flex.gif  flex.gif  oni u kno... doh.gif
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I talked so much bad stuffs about Symbian and how Nokia utter destroyed it but they still invite me to join the Ranger wor... aren't you being overly sensitive? Criticism and comparison is just the way life goes around. Scared of comparison? Hid yourself in the cave...

End.. please dont reply to me..


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QUOTE(ne0cz @ Aug 21 2010, 05:59 PM)
Symbian older than the rest of them..the Sempai... haha
U cant compare an old OS with a new OS la...
After all, do you compare an old Mac(I dunno wat version coz I nvr touched a Mac) with Windows 7?
Already it is different basically, summore added with the advancements in scripting and all...
Nokia is already doing a very good job, giving us long supported software instead of jumping from 1 OS to the other
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Wake up la little boy...

OLD OS NEW OS, are you even sure what you are talking about? You just make yourself look .....
Microsoft is changing, along with Windows... see the difference? MS totally sucks with their WM...
See what they did... DUMP IT INTO THE TRASH BIN!!

Nokia should just do that and start anew. WHY? Simple, Symbian is at the end of the road. Nokia had a chance in the past to totally switch over to a new UI for Symbian and improve from there. HOWEVER, S90 was scraped. This shit that Nokia scrap, many are following what they did there. Nokia had the idea, but the technology was not there during that time. They never thought it would come back to haunt them. Where were you when Nokia had S90? Dont talk about history like you walk through it.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 21 2010, 05:55 PM)
people  are not talking bad about it..  we are talking about the current situation Nokia are facing.... 

I better cabut ..  else Rangers kill me...  tongue.gif
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Just now I got meet one of the ranger.. Nic. Was with him at the SIS Appreciation Nite.

He has a Satio and his friend a Samsung (whats the name, that Symbian device)....
Seeing how his Satio and his friend Samsung (What again), I think perhaps Nokia would have used slightly better hardware, the whole experience would be a lot better.


Added on August 21, 2010, 10:52 pm
QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 21 2010, 10:39 PM)
ahh.... here we go again >.<
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Relax big boy... Just having fun here.
I dont like being in Android forum... they talk so much about rooting, performance, benchmarking... SIENZZZ le...

Some of them are very fanbois...

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 21 2010, 10:56 PM)
U cannot compare other OS wt current symbian phone....  Not fair u know....
U shloud compare a n8 wt a 3gs or a legend later.... Not now....  Since the cpu speed r so diff so much... 

Don't compare other current flagship wt nokia, coz not fair..... 

ridiculous....  doh.gif

Oh yah, don't compare other phone's camera wt n8, not fair....  laugh.gif
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Wei... too playful lar you...
That 2 was Symbian la...


Added on August 21, 2010, 11:00 pm
QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Aug 21 2010, 10:58 PM)
are u want to start this again?

u said other is "little boy", but from my view, u behave like a "little boy"
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Blue ranger issit?
Could you pls mind you own business...

I dont feel like talking about N8... if you got anything to say about Symbian vs whatever, come on...

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 21 2010, 10:58 PM)
Hello, passing by here and would like to throw in my piece of advice to everyone here to have a harmonious discussion. smile.gif

Received a report on this thread has turned into a war zone, this is definitely unacceptable. smile.gif

Err... Any more such similar posts will be flagged with necessary warning and suspension.

Chaoz. wave.gif

p/s: Nokia's Symbian still looks good to me. biggrin.gif And oh yeah, Nokia is the one pays for my salary every month, but this is not the point should be taken into consideration la. tongue.gif Still it serves most of the users well, no?
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So which part do you think has turn into war zone?
Or just some fanbois feeling their sacred N8 is being disgraced?
Some people cant accept positive comparison, do they but they will say see my photo... and how this phone sensor eat those lousy digi cam for lunch... not the same? The point is, at no point that N8 is being drag and kick around. Hardware is dead, the OS is the one thats alive...

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