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 Nokia N8 V2, Perfect Camera Phone

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Aug 6 2010, 06:23 PM)
Lol , thats why its called a forum , where people discuss about things rather than "OMG! I WANT THIS!"
No offence tho , lets not quarrel .
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Hey,

Nice video. Anymore on video on 720P RMVB/DIVX? Especially one with HDMI output to LCD TV?

Im going to try play some 720P DIVX and RMVB on my Legend and see can play or not. Should be slower than N8 cos ARMv6 vs ARMv7.

BTW, its a nice move from Nokia enabling to detect and access pendrive. Should be interesting. I wouldnt want to be waiting for my phone to transfer a say 8gb of movies. Just transfer it to a pendrive. Also easy to transfer data to another similar device.

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 6 2010, 06:17 PM)
Aiya wasting time. Not only 1 video there. As I  said he can say this n that n bla bla bla...
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No need be so kiasu...
No criticism where got improvement.

My expectation is quite high one. When say can, then I wan all also can. If good, I say good. If bad, I say bad. Simple.
I just tried 720P RMVB on my HTC Legend. Totally rubbish. Im very frank one.. I dont really root for anything nowadays.
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Aug 6 2010, 06:51 PM)
Leo the Lion has actually made many good points against Android. Let me share a few of my own.

Firstly, I own an Android phone - HTC Hero. I've also had the pleasure to play with the Desire. I've written a few Android applications on my own. Here's what I feel are Android's disadvantages in the market today.

1) Android has a lot of connectivity issues, especially with WiFi. Just search for "Android WiFi Problem" or "Android Mobile Network problem" on Google. My own personal experience hasn't been great. My Hero does not work properly with my WAG54G2 router, although all my other phones do.

2) Android phones today suck at multimedia hardware, especially cameras. Flame Apple all you want, but an iPhone 3GS with 3.2MP takes better shots than my Hero with 5MP. Based on the picture samples I've seen from the new iPhone 4, it's 5MP camera takes way better shots than the 8MP Android phones. Finally, my 5MP Nokia N82 takes better shots than probably all the Android sets that exist today.

3) Lack of free navigation software. One of the nicest things about Nokia is that their Ovi Maps is really good, about 80% on the level of Garmin and Papago. Google Maps is not bad, but you often need to download map images on the fly because not everything comes pre-installed.

All these reasons is why I still keep and use my Nokia N86, even though it has a lousy ugly GUI compared to Hero. It's not pretty but 99% of what I need is there.

The best thing I like about Android/Hero is the browser. Seriously no Nokia phone today lets me surf as happily as my Hero. Which is why I'm looking forward eagerly to the N8, because the big multitouch capacitive screen will finally let me surf happily where older Nokia resistive screens like the one on the N900 don't feel as smooth as my Hero.
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But if you look at the browser video, it still does not resize to fit. I really dont understand why Nokia find it so hard to code their browser this way. Scroll left and right when you pinch and zoom. Grrrr.... wake up Nokia...

Camera wise, that one really depend on the hardware. Higher MP does not really translate into better picture. Its the SENSOR which is why N8 is good at it.


Added on August 6, 2010, 7:01 pm
QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 6 2010, 06:55 PM)
Out of box, the legend will feel snappier than desire if same os. Main reason, legend resolution much much lower.
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No wor... I find Desire is better wor. Gaming might be different cos of resolution but on normal use, I feel Desire is totally lagless unlike Legend where it still lag a little bit at certain place. Which is why Im also interested in how N8 perform here. S60v5 is totally outperformed by the rivals, so I want to see if Nokia really pack some punch back.



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Just tried another 720P WMV and it sucks even more, sorry I mean on my Legend. Im really interested in knowing what kind of setting needed to these 720P files to work properly.


Added on August 6, 2010, 7:51 pm
QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 6 2010, 07:32 PM)
1. When I used Motorola Milestone, it doesn't feel zippy/faster. SGS is FAST, but hardware utilization isn't near Nokia yet.

2. I would rate Garmin 1st, Ovi Map 2nd and Google Map 3rd. So here is only personal opinion? Fine with me

3. Than, you have to wait October till your Legend gets Froyo  whistling.gif

4. Nonono, the thing I don't like pirate application, that there is a risk. The pirated application may lead to hacking and your personal data may be stolen without your knowledge.
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Lets see about September. HTC mentioned Q3, so hopefully they can deliver. Desire is much simpler since they shared the same hardware as N1. All HTC needed to do is port their app to work. Its much more work on Legend, different hardware etc.

There is one thing that I really hate about Nokia is that they tend to kill platform. 7710 and now N900 suffers the same fate. Cant they just release a new version like Android or Iphone OS? Its really not much different and maybe just cripple some of the features. Too much to ask for?

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 6 2010, 07:59 PM)
Cut the crap that Nokia should release android or another version of IOS phone doh.gif I really hate people mentioned this all the time while surfing the internet sweat.gif To me, Symbian has all the features I need, what's lacking is just eye-candy UI and enhanced/better browsing experience. That's all.
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Rephrase...

I said, Nokia should just release a new version of Symbian like what Android and Iphone OS is doing instead of killing the platform. Why they wanna release a new platform and then kill it? Cant they just decide move on or stay with the current one with additional stuffs? They release something interesting and then just kill it like that. I dont get it.

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Bu Fung,

Well, the reason I said so, is because the response from most forum regarding n900 is that Nokia is somewhat lackluster. Many are feeling Nokia already leave them for good.

Hero did get Ecclair recently. I don't think it will get Froyo.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 6 2010, 09:22 PM)
I kind of agree nokia lost focus now. But saying it death r a bit unfair. At the end of the day, u r buying a phone not entire platform. Legend should be stop @ froyo also. Gingerbread is a monster.
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What Nokia is doing is totally beyond the boundaries. I mean, there is suppose to be continuity in what they are doing. Just take Android phone for example. Its open source... yes, HTC really slow with the updates with Hero and Magic however, being open source, they (enthusiast) were able to somewhat come up with Froyo for Hero using whatever means of reverse engineering to the source code they get. What do you get with Nokia? I really hope they changed for good. Its pointless... they knew its going to be hard starting afresh and yet they came out with the device but leave the user for good.
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Aug 6 2010, 09:39 PM)
oh BB...nice...but i don't own a BB cry.gif .....waiting for N8 hit malaysia and see brows.gif
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If nice, then maybe I ask my wife wanna upgrade her N85 or not...
Then I also can play play... but still worried with Nokia brutal killing...
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 6 2010, 09:45 PM)
I must agree, Maemo isn't a platform to be killed with. There are people that still supporting it. And N900 isn't a mobile phone, it's a mobile computer aka tablet with call functions. So it's different And Nokia did mentioned N900 is for Geeks and Hackable. It's a geek dreams to have this devices. So you wanna exploit all you want, it's up to you man. It's true LINUX platform, it's OPEN SOURCE and there is Maemo community that supports it aswell. Maemo won't die so soon as long as their people support it. And wanna know the reason why I sold my N900? Cause It's thick and bulky, not because of the OS.

And Nokia is currently on QT cross-platform, that it may support the existing OS (not Symbian s60 v5 or s60 v3). Hope Qt could support Symbian ^3, Symbian^4 and MeeGo.

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QT... Heard this magical two letters word many moon ago and right now still in dreaming stage.
I think the performance evaluation is needed before something like this takes off.
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 6 2010, 09:50 PM)
Wow, it's liked you have soooooo many doubts here and there. Android really got into your head meh?  flex.gif
Not really. Hard to explained. Its just like after years of using Symbian with no big break-through, and suddenly moved to something else which were much better in things that you were most interested in, makes you really think thrice about the promise of the NEW platform by the same manufacturer which does not delivery the expected goods. At times, its like calling out loud begging them to copy the competitor advantage just to make it a more complete experience which usually fell on deaf ears.
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Even Nokia is agitated...

Symbian : Hey Google, we sold 300,000 phones everyday

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 6 2010, 10:30 PM)
Yeah, I know how you feel and I bet everyone here do. After using Nokia N97, I nearly lost faith coz come on, there is alot of good ads hanging around about N97, and it doesn't exceed any of my expectation. And when N900 came out, for a resistive devices, it exceed my expectation except it's thickness and bulkiness. And running 600Mhz + true multitasking, to be honest, android will never come close to either Symbian or Maemo (probably even MeeGo) in hardware utilization and true multitasking. Gingerbread (android 3.0) may overcome this, but have to wait till next year for it to come. And still no news whether my SGS will get Gingerbread or not. It's pretty frustrating.  doh.gif

And here, after using Motorola Milestone, and now SGS, there is alot of features that android is lacking. So thats why I currently owned both E52 and SGS. Nokia have all the features I need except browsing experience sucks alot. And with SGS that have good browsing experience, my life seems nearly perfect with this 2 phones.

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Have you ever wonder at times how come a company like Nokia which sucks so much at making a touch screen device can rule the world of candy bar smartphone?

Their candy bar smartphone is godly...
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But if N8 really made it hard to consider which to choose compared with Android, means a big leap to Nokia in some way...
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I think any OS also can run on mobile phone. The hardware itself only recognise 0 and 1. It does not care which OS, as long as you can code the drivers for it to work, it will work. Thats why Nokia failed. Nokia sells phone, not platform/OS.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 6 2010, 11:56 PM)
Geng.. U dare to conclude a still biggest phone maker fail..
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 6 2010, 11:53 PM)
This is terribly wrong. If it can work out like that, someone should code the driver and install Windows 7 on it. Or perhaps OSX.  doh.gif
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Just wait a few years and see la..
The hardware still not fast enough for Win7. This kind of project requires an enthusiast to do one. Just like how they port Win95 over. Just not the time yet. ARM is based on RISC and has fewer instructions that x86 CISC. I think mayb with dual core 2GHz, someone godly programmer might feel bored enough and do this for a show or something.
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 7 2010, 04:00 AM)
I've been using alot of phone, but seems someone just look down at me think that android phone only lack green and red call button with  laugh.gif emoticons, wanna make fun of me. Geez, what's with people these day?  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Aug 7 2010, 03:04 AM)
holy..... u guy are really off the track of N8  sweat.gif
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Holy cow...

The final spec show ARM11 instead of A8 (ARM v7). Why oh why?
Fast GPU, Big Camera Sensor but SLOW CPU yet again???

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http://www.forum.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/N8/

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