Just need to remind U bout chassis and structural geometry kindda things perhaps would makes U think of something.

As for "large" exhaust, I'm not sure how large is consider large, I'm using stock, nvr tried any oversize exhaust piping, so cannot simply give U comment too to prevent myself frm being tembak.

But heard many aftermarket exhaust piping users experience, the result on the fc is NEGATIVE, how bad, guar ta rak tau.

Cause some of the LMST come with large exhaust..So i wonder which kind if more fuel saver?

Donoe.

I have gotten the 2nd batch model which is the one having normal muffler at the back and was selling at MYR27,999.

I actually wanted the one with a bigger rear muffler model, but was told by the moron salesmonkey tht LMST has discontinued using tht muffler, so, vat to do, complaint also doesn't make sense ma since they think Ur buying a RM27,999's car and doesn't deserve a good customer service.

But I didn't care too since the car is meant mainly for my job, so be it.

As everybody has known, this auto maker has been having problems with their parts reliability issue regarless of which model eversince the 1st product came out. U should have known it too I guess.

So mine too, having the same common problem and the most common being the power window switches which has already been suggested above.

This post has been edited by J1@l_ l_l l\l: Jul 28 2010, 11:32 PM

not necessary lower weight means less structural rigidity... it depends where the meat is located...

as for ur exhaust, not much difference GIVEN THAT ur carburetor is properly tuned...

after driving LMST for 3 years i conclude its the best! Engine is still mitsu engine so never gave me a problem.

Its very light, so suggest dont drive like a race car for safety issues.

FC is very good, RM50 can go up to 330km that is with 1" bigger then stock and modified muffler. Stock can go more i guess..

I don't know for MYR50 U were refering to how much $/Litre.

If it was refered to V-Power, then it's a good figure.

yes, this engine do hv good FC.. even after more then 20 years of tech still doing fine.. its simple n engine n coz it simple it easy to maintain n parts sure cheap...

as muffler, suggest use OEM ler.. the larger muffler OEM gave sure increase FC a bit coz not suitable with engine power even they know that, they still done that coz wanna style a bit.. huhu

Fuel consumption is only effected by the engine? So, the mass and the Cd of the car don't effecting the fc?

Can U share with us how many kM/L U were refering to?

engine is the most important, other come 2nd..

Oh, ini macam miar ah? Gua butoi butoi ta rak tau oh.

U have suggested "the larger muffler OEM gave sure increase FC a bit coz not suitable with engine power ", what did U mean by this "not suitable with engine power"?

Sorry for for the noob question due to I'm a nood in automotive industry.

its mean its not 'ngam' ler.. small engine use small muffler coz its have weak exhaust flow, like turbo engine which hv strong exhaust flow if use small muffler n piping sure the power being restricted.. so same to small engine use too big muffler..

its like ur body, u hv large body, u also must have large leg n foot right, if not u will feel unstable (also mean not suitable)...

Then y is the dimension of the exhaust hose of AP1 and AP2 are bigger than SV4 2.2?

Strong exhaust flow, what is the unit being used to describe exhaust flow how "strong" or not "strong"?

Saga LMST "strong" ke or not "strong"?

Y not small capacity engines using extreamly big muffler since it has suggested tht small muffler power being restricted?

what is AP1 and AP2??....

AP1 = S2000 2.0, AP2 = S2000 2.2

My mistake put in the AP2 due to the AP2 is having the same engine capacity as the SV4 2.2.

V r talking bout the meant value of a, area of the cross section of the exhaust piping.

from saga u change to honda, that another whole different story ler.. honda even hv same engine in diff model, the characteristic of them differ according izzit sedan, sports car etc..
same goes with toyota engine 3SGE/3SGTE engine, various model use that engine too n all hv differ tork and hp..
but for simple engine like 4g13/15 hard to done on it (differ hp n tork) coz its too basic..

I was asking question for post #51 which has not been answered yet and answering the question on post #53.

So, have U came up the answer for my question on post #52?

maybe the engine code the same but the tuning is different, eg like evo3 vr4 turbo n vr4 NA, all use same engine code but has different length of inlet manifold, different design of xtractor, n ecu tuning also differ.. so from all that that effect the exhaust flow..

strong or not strong flow i also dont know..

if i want to xplain all i also not know all , try google it..

saga/iswara/lmst is quite a fuel saver, i get about 450km on full tank on my usual routes, 50% highway 50% city roads. Not bad compare to newer cars with dvvt/vvti technology.

its quite comfortable, and the suspension is soft, good for traveling on roads with loads of port holes and bumps. I usually travel around 60-80 on speed bumps and i feel totally nothing.

The squeeking parts on the dashboard and seats can be fix by maskin tapes and some lubricants.

this car, if not mistaken 2nd hand around rm15k. Not much you can ask for a rm15k car right? enough to bring you from point a to b comfortably and safely is already good enough

yup... agree, maybe the longest manufactured engine... coz the engine since 80's..