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 Saga LMST Is a good car?, Interm of FC,Safety and Stability

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amad108
post Jul 9 2010, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(fool1988 @ Jul 9 2010, 12:04 PM)
For me..It's not worth for investment in kancil... tongue.gif
Btw..kancil is really a good car for me...as my first car..it help me a lot..
Because of it excellent FC..i manage to save money from my salary for my second car... rclxms.gif
It's still working fine with good FC..but ppl will greedy, it comfortable already cannot suit me well.. blush.gif
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haha.. coz that greedy attitude we can archive higher goal.. anyone want good car with low FC n cheap to maintain, but becoz of that we try almost everything to get there.. for sure someday it appears.. haha rclxms.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 12:39 PM

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iswara is comfortable enough.but that if u can tahan all the vibrating noises when go thru uneven road surface
amad108
post Jul 9 2010, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(icyd @ Jul 9 2010, 12:39 PM)
iswara is comfortable enough.but that if u can tahan all the vibrating noises when go thru uneven road surface
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that can fix one.. brows.gif
TSfool1988
post Jul 9 2010, 01:03 PM

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How to fix? I don like those sound let me feel whole car gonna separately fast
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post Jul 10 2010, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(fool1988 @ Jul 8 2010, 11:41 PM)
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Saga+Iswara+LMS...ual-6564372.htm

The link is LMST or LMSS? What the different for LMSS? Look different?
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The one u showing is LMST.

THis is LMSS
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Iswara+1+3MT+Li...ner-5214749.htm

LMSS brand new is 36k+ above if i remember correctly, LMST brand new 27.8k

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post Jul 10 2010, 05:31 PM

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LMSS better than LMST? On which part?
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post Jul 10 2010, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jul 10 2010, 11:41 AM)
The one u showing is LMST.

THis is LMSS
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Iswara+1+3MT+Li...ner-5214749.htm

LMSS brand new is 36k+ above if i remember correctly, LMST brand new 27.8k
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i think the earliest batch of LMST is 30++K
the 27k promo came in later to clear stock, but i think they ended up producing more instead of stock clearing because of the high demand for cheap cars..
the LMST is a better deal than kancil back then..
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post Jul 10 2010, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(fool1988 @ Jul 10 2010, 05:31 PM)
LMSS better than LMST? On which part?
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quality wise, LMSS abit better... at least not plastic door panels... haha...
but performance wise, its the same...
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post Jul 26 2010, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jul 10 2010, 08:54 PM)
quality wise, LMSS abit better... at least not plastic door panels... haha...
but performance wise, its the same...
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If U r to physically measure both, the LMST is slightly lighter. Vr talking bout power/weight ratio.
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post Jul 27 2010, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Jul 26 2010, 06:58 PM)
If U r to physically measure both, the LMST is slightly lighter. Vr talking bout power/weight ratio.
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lighter with less meat on the chassis??..
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jul 27 2010, 02:31 AM)
lighter with less meat on the chassis??..
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Could be due to "less meat" meat. What I can think abt now are the door boards, dashboard, and rear wiper.
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post Jul 27 2010, 11:55 AM

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So lighter is a good thing?
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post Jul 27 2010, 06:05 PM

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No good meh? Despite lighter but not significant weight reduced, very minimal.

Question is in terms of vat sense? Driveability? Stability? Is the inertia of the vehicle a concern? I guess it's up to Ur personal preferance, I dare not give any comment here, otherwise I'll kena "sniped".

But personally, I think it's good when Ur talking bout power over weight ratio.
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post Jul 27 2010, 07:51 PM

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On safety, might not a good thing..
But on FC, YES,lighter is better.
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post Jul 27 2010, 09:19 PM

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Agree on the FC.

But may I know y did U say might not be a good thing on safety?
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post Jul 28 2010, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Jul 27 2010, 09:19 PM)
Agree on the FC.

But may I know y did U say might not be a good thing on safety?
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lighter doesn't mean made by milo tin? If kena accident sure GG. tongue.gif
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post Jul 28 2010, 03:54 PM

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I am driving a lmst right now. So to correct some of the info here, LMST 2007/08 :
1. do not comes with the large noisy exhaust
2. equipped with power steering, reverse sensor
3. do not comes with sport rim.
4. the price is rm26999

Yes the steel is very thin. I met some minor bang, and when I apply mild pressure to the dented part, it bounce back like it was new. Cruising noise of course is high. Do notice several common issues such as:
1. Power window switch malfunction (Can easily fix by yourself)
2. Door/Boot are not properly aligned. There would be some gaps as if the door/boot are not properly shut.
3. Back seat clips not aligned properly.
4. Cheap and loose aircond vents and controls. Air cond leaking everywhere and the control rattles while cruising.

Other than these, should be ok for basic usage. Better than getting kancil in my opinion. With the price, it's even worthy than BLM.
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post Jul 28 2010, 05:06 PM

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Actually..large exhaust is good thing or bad thing? Beside than the sound..
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post Jul 28 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(fool1988 @ Jul 28 2010, 01:45 PM)
lighter doesn't mean made by milo tin? If kena accident sure GG. tongue.gif
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Lighter weights would generally means lower inertia.

Lower inertia would reflects the performance of a vehicle eg. accereration and decereration.

The lower the inertia, the less effort the brake system has to work to stop the vehicle. No good meh?

As for the "kena accident" thing, I believe U were refering to the ability of a structure to absorb impact instead of inertia right?


Added on July 28, 2010, 5:16 pm
QUOTE(fool1988 @ Jul 28 2010, 05:06 PM)
Actually..large exhaust is good thing or bad thing? Beside than the sound..
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As this it would be up to Ur personal preference whether U corcern bout fuel consumption, back pressure of the exhaust gas or the enviroment.

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post Jul 28 2010, 07:05 PM

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Sound good for lower inertia..thank for sharing
Btw..i though lower weight mean the structure is soft and will be danger if having accident, because it not tough enough..
If concern about fuel consumption..large exhaust is not a good thing isnt?

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