Since its 3 vs 5 pumping should be ok gua.............

IMHO, he is probably the best hero in 1 vs 1, err except Bane Elemental That day 2 of my friends went 1 vs 1, one of them got Bane Elemental, and it was GG from the start of the game

I thought there's the command -recreate for it ?

Magic reduction does not stack. You want master Pudge? Let me teach you the easiest way. Max rot right from the beginning. 4 persevereance, 1 Boots of travel and 1 dagger of escape. With Perseverance you can rot 24/7. Dagger of escape and use "fresh meat". This build rocks and the best part is you don't have to mastr hook. Don't believe its power? Try it. However you must be good at estimation to know when's the time to rot and when not to.

Nice one. But I prefer to put refresher orb on Enigma before getting Guinsoo. It really helps out the team kill. Think of it as Treant Protector with Refresher Orb, only better. I got Lich King in my team and we totally owned them

So anybody here joined WCG?

walaoweh even if I can kill that kanasai SK I also don't want to kill lor. 60 armour hello!! Centaur with 2 plate mail the firebush alsob whack until sien baru can kill him. Can you imagine 60 armour? Walaoweh. With this build he go solo your throne suicide also never mind lar.

oh impact.net so geng? Must have friendly match with them liao

Kidscode ar kidscode you really too long din play Wc3 liao, haha out liao

Don't say like that. We all start out as newbies one. Given your potential, sure very fast then pro one I still remmeber last time LAN party '04 see you play WC3, feel "wah this guy tapao me in WC3". I not very geng also, cannot solo play. I win cause I always ask pro to join my team and ask n00bs to join the opposite team

sanji why don't you make a clan and go out join tournaments? It'll be cool Melaka had a tourney last week. Saw many new strategies not seen in WCG.........

Heh, I have to really disagree with this statement. Do you think the top 4 teams are good just because they have l33t farming skills and good teamwork? It'll be more than that. See the replays for yourself and see how they exploit the various blindspots in the maps. I won't say how it is done, just find out urself, I can gurantee that you'll learn much

The life leach does not stack directly

In 5.84b, if you get MoM for Naix, you only get the life leach percentage of MoM thus diluting Feast by a huge margin. I'm not sure how it works in 6.14 though, might test it out when I have the time. But I believe Warcraft mechanics would not allow the direct stacking of MoM and Feast

It stacks. But does it stack directly?

For me I buy 5 gauntlet of str in the beginning. Some people buy him S&Y but I don't find it very effective. I kinda go for boots of speed, one ogre axe, power threads, MKB, BKB. You can have fun with maelstorm too. Its dependent really. Although some buy him cranium basher, IMHO the damage output is not there. If I'm low on cash, I get hyperstone before MKB

Its me lar really. serewen your nick is really ghey nia =.=" Anyway that one was my friends account, I borrow only de. And yeah your Sven got owned because everytime you came mid we were notified and we were prepared Hehe I first blood Henry, damn shuang ~~~

Eh its dota ler, different thing de ~~~

Yesterday played a 1 and a half hour game, I was using Treant Protector. Already got aegis, burize, mask of madness, hyperstone. It was after I got boots of travel and fast push baru can win the game, phew. The opposite team centaur too geng already, crit 700. Thats why pulled a long game

Yes, it works both way. You got repel-ed, purge get rids of it and vice versa

opponent is not full pusher and low hp, besides they got no rhasta. Full stunner team should win theoretically. But since not proper clan match, sorry lo. How lar u Ah Wang, full stun team also cannot win Unless u use slardar and u playing v5 u should own mar

Vol'Jin The Witch Doctor

Here's the picture, int hero with 600 range, pretty good damage, and a decent walking speed, all this combined makes him quite a user friendly hero. His hp is relatively low (although not as low as Pugna) with a decent mana pool. For skill sets you guys can check out here.

After some pondering I decide that there would be 2 builds available, pusher or nuker, whereby I would touch on the latter as the items present in DotA as of the moment is IMHO, too weak and cannot really make a big impact in the game unless the heroes' own skill set is able to complement it well.

For the nuker build, this is how it goes:

Items
Dagon/Kelen's Dagger of Escape
Black King Bar (optional)
Aghanim's Scepter
Upgrade Dagon

Skill Set
Maledrictch
Stats
Maledrictch
Stats
Maledrictch
Death Ward
Maledrictch
Stats.....

You guys get the picture, so according to this build what you'll be getting is a sturdy int hero that can get the last hit pretty well and can take a pack of punch. Basically, you can't really do much in the beginning unless the guy is a noob but then again, with the stats you are gaining, you'll be long standing on the field. There is 3 things you should do in the early game (lvl 1-6), farm, farm and FARM. Just keep your cool and keep the exp denial going at the same time.

Now regarding the dagon or dagger of escape first is really up to you, if you have disabling heroes on your side that can partner with you pretty well, you'll definitely want Dagger of Escape. This is because not only the Death Ward is a channeling spell, it has an annoyingly short casting range, 200 to be exact, plus the death ward only have 200hp with 0 light armour so if you can't get the kills going early to mid, you're pretty much toast late game. Stun --> Dagger in --> Maledritch --> Death Ward. If there are disabling heroes at the opposition, you might want to put in BKB after you get your Dagger so that your channeling doesn't get disrupted. Maledritch should get the kill for you if you din manage to finish the job. At lvl 4 its 25hp/sec for 12 sec, and 40 bonus dmg every 4 sec for every 100 hp lost since the hero is cursed, go figure yourself.

If you are doing solo-ing, you'll need Dagon. It'll be Maledritch --> Dagon --> Just shoot. Death ward is a bit a waste of mana but since you ain't mana intensive and you are scared you might not kill off the hero then just go ahead. Just remember the 200 casting range, which IMHO is a serious handicap. Without the death ward Dagon 0 + Maledritch should work up to 720 damage not factoring hero resistance to Dagon and hero hp regen. Since you ain't mana intensive you can actually spam dagon just to annoy the enemy heroes, the cooldown is fast enough for u to achieve that.

Some have already replied me that the nuker build isn't that efficient and I admit it does lose to the likes of Lina Inverse (hey who can win that biatch anyway ) but it is way way efficient than the pusher build as the pushing build ain't that great anyway, I find myself out of mana most of the time, necrolyte can do the job better anyway. Although the Death Ward is as strong as ever the casting range is well.... you know what I have already said about it. But at least with Aghanim Scepter you get an additional 30 damage bonus at each lvl at lvl 2 onwards it can already bounce attack. So if you can do off with many kills with Death Ward, you might consider rushing for Aghanim Scepter.

In both builds I will not recommend the first skill as it isn't worthwhile the skill points cause without other units around the stun would not bounce and the bouncing is too slow anyway (as slow as chain nova) although it could bounce back to the same unit stunning it again it is at random and uncontrollable when the numbers becomes big.

In conclusion, too bad for you guys as this guy ain't the type of hero that can go beyond Godlike easily but hey, it'll be fun planting Death Wards and see all the enemy heroes running screaming for help

This post has been edited by Yukito: Feb 25 2006, 11:35 PM

Sorry guys but this year I'm quite busy and I only do around one dota game per 2 nights so here's my very late reply


Smart fellow


Thats why I recommend going for stats, to help you in the farming part, and making u last longer on the field.


If your focus is on the AGI and INT build, then I can tell you the build I suggested is as powerful as the death ward stuff because the dmg is amazing. Well actually, I hate to rely on the death ward, makes me looks like I can't kill an ant without it.


There are no builds that confirm kills, only suitable build for certain heroes.


Lets face it, pusher builds are boring, you guys wanna get the Double Kill going right? WD ain't that powerful as a pusher anyway, with those items, I can push better with Broodmother.


It really depends on the situation. But under general situations I would say 140 mana for that kind of skill in the early game is too costly and unefficient. The effect is not instant and to make it worse it is random.

Thanks for the feedbacks guys B) Just wanna know did anybody of you tried out this build?