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post May 5 2005, 08:51 PM

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welcome to the 21st century
u can bring ur honour and pride back to the past where they are left behind
for which nobody cares

j00 have been pawned by Mutsumi-san !!!!

Anyway tourneys should ban pumping. If they don't however, you sure have to play pump cause if ur opponent does and you don't, who's gonna lose?
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post May 7 2005, 04:00 AM

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nearly everyone here thinks that pumping should be banned in Tourneys, bah even yukito agrees with it


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Anyway tourneys should ban pumping

Sigh SeeD all you need is a tiny winy more observation when viewing other people's post. See MY quote right up there. If you can do that I believe you'll have less things to argue with around here whistling.gif

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Thats the reason why girls doesnt have pride and honour, because they always lie to themselves and think what they say is right. Which is WRONG

And please, leave your sexual discrimination attitude out of this arguement, it does not have any valid points anyway. Girls nowadays are greater than you think, and most probably greater than you whistling.gif

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and whats the point of the aegis?

Useful when backdooring with bone

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since evereybody pumps in tourneys, does anybody pick razor??

Bone > Razor. Cause strafe does not take extra damage whereas frenzy does. And windwalk gives you such a huge advantage.

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Ermm... one question, if you just have level 1 lucent beam, does it mean that your eclipse does less damage?

Yes
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post May 14 2005, 01:24 PM

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For kardel (5.84b) I like to go one sobi mask and some nulls. Then power threads, MKB, hyperstone then burize
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post May 15 2005, 12:50 PM

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Guys lets stop the finger pointing shall we. Anyway personally I don't like Chen, I prefer Omniknight much better. I think I have one replay somewhere on this guy. Will post it up tomorrow, but the version is 1.17 though.

Come to think of it, been a long time I even get past 20 kills anyway, a very very long time..............
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post May 15 2005, 08:48 PM

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erm here it is, but version 1.17.......... and oh ya, I love omniknight wub.gif


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post May 16 2005, 07:41 PM

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Ok guys come now lets discuss DOTA in a more healthy way. Anyway talking about the new version, I also not very familiar with the terrain, which is why I wanna play it, new elements just makes the game more fun. I wonder why people refuse to play the new version, I try to ask people to play new version but they just say "aiya not familiar also". And? Hmph, really can't understand humans sweat.gif
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post May 16 2005, 08:53 PM

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its because the terrain is new thats all. I think the terrain is much better now. During 6.02 the terrain was forest, very very hard for your eyes, really very bad. The snow is much better cause its white and "clean"
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post May 17 2005, 12:45 PM

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I still don't think he's good. First off, battle hunger can be cancelled by killing a creep, otherwise I would have given the skill more credit. 2nd, his hp is freakin' low and he's melee. Nukers eat him for breakfast. 3rd, counter helix is too random and not dependable. 4th, lets face it, his ulti damage is extremely bad for an ulti and it is melee range, otherwise it would have been cool. I would rather choose sniper over him, which has roughly the same hp, has a better nuke, has a longer range and higher damage ulti, and much better passive skills to top it off. +29 armour for 3.5secs isn't very amazing. I could throw a blade mail on nerubian assassin and have the same effect throughout the whole game.
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post May 23 2005, 07:07 PM

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Erm actually I don't see the minimap a lot also one sweat.gif Depedent on my teammate to tell me when heroes missing tongue.gif Lazy I am......
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post May 26 2005, 09:47 AM

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well, it depends. imagine ur axe with bkb. u start htting him he drains. then u use zerkercall and he has to attack u. after 2 seconds activate bkb and pwn his a$$ cause he cant sunder. But he is good, depends on person playing and item build

Not really, I can't imagine at mid or late game how axe can win terrorblade with images. Image makes all the difference. Sunder is only for just in case, its not a must. I have killed many heroes with terrorblade without sunder. By the time axe got bkb, terrorblade would have diffusal blade
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post May 31 2005, 11:22 AM

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Played the new version using Naga Siren, damn geng. Manta style plus her own image = 6 images, totaly pawnage thumbup.gif
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post Jun 1 2005, 10:38 PM

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Who would know that kind of thing? Anyway, I thought the maximum image of phantom lancer was reduced from 8 to 6? Image only have the basic agility of the heroes anyway, even if you put 2 eaglehorn on the hero, the image would not receive the bonus even though they can crit and evade (not bash though) sad.gif But thats why morphling image can be as strong as him.

I am still thinking about the previous version where you can go for dagon using phantom lancer, spirit lance + dagon = ownage in early and mid game
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post Jun 5 2005, 04:41 PM

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pumped morphling da best tongue.gif
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post Jun 5 2005, 11:40 PM

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Dun get burize with PA, even 10% of 4x crit is already enough. Since her life is low, work on it, get satanic, not MoM. Cranium basher then hyperstone
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post Jun 7 2005, 11:12 AM

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but there's one fact you cant deny - getting 2 criticals gives you a highher probability of dealing criticals....

In the case of heroes like Leoric I would say this is good, it gives you a higher critical right, but in the case of PA it would be different because by getting burize, you are actually diluting the 4x critical of your hero. PA has a sufficiently high speed to comeplement her percentage of critical. You want more damage output, get hyperstone or MKB, not burize.

Guinsoo ripped from Eul but he did work and spent a lot of time on the later versions no?
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post Jun 8 2005, 02:50 PM

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I don't take SnY with Razor, then again, I don't take SnY with ANY heroes. I tried it out with many heroes, but find the effect dissapointing, especially the main effect sad.gif Waste an orb effect only. My way of playing Razor is Wraith bands --> Threads --> Radiance --> Anything You Want.

Chain Lighitng helps in both farming and nuking. You might say Razor has a lousy mana pool. Well I find heroes like sniper with an ever lousier mana capacity but they still take scatttershot right? Use chain lighting properly at the right time. Just get a few clarities and you'll be all right. I don't even need to buy sobi mask for this guy. Once you got the radiance going and avoid dieing before that, you'll be all right.

One of the most important things about DoTA is knowing your heroes str and weakness. Razor has high walking speed, use it to annoy people tongue.gif Only on LAN though hehe
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post Jun 8 2005, 10:39 PM

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My way of playing dota, keep the pressure on the opponents from the BEGINNING of the game. DOTA, has a psychological factor, as many might have noticed (or not). By using chain lighting to supress your opponent, you give him the notion that you are strong,you can nuke, and you WILL nuke. I always try to hold my own, even against Zeus. He nuke me, I nuke back. The one who backs down, will fear the opponent in the rest of the game. That is why if needed, I will buy flasks, even as naix, I still go in front. Let them whack and nuke, I don't care, I'll give the image that I am unkillable or at least freakin hard to kill and I won't go down without a fight. If you manage to build up that kind of image, you already won half of the game smile.gif Trust me
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post Jun 9 2005, 10:49 PM

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Anyway CL helps a lot in farming, too. If you happen to be up against 2 heavy nukers or disablers and got problem going in front u can at least farm with CL.
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post Jun 12 2005, 06:16 PM

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DotA = Defense of the Ancients: All Stars. A is capital because of the nature of the English that's all. Its capital for the same reason why o and t is not smile.gif

Anyway I like maelstorm man, this item makes the game fun fun fun. Get it with razor and throw him a hyperstone, isn't it shocking? Reminds me of an AP game me and my friends played. We took Tormented Soul, Razor, Rhasta, Medusa, and Zeus. Yup all with chain lighting. When we were pushing the lighting never really stopped tongue.gif
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Get earthshaker dagger and just pawn people. Hes not that item dependent, too

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