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sanjikun
post Apr 22 2005, 05:09 PM

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i dont like they position the creeps only....
last time can get to lv 5 very quickly by using creeps to whack neutral creeps.....now kenot anymore.....zzzz
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post Apr 22 2005, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(YuuYuu @ Apr 22 2005, 08:07 PM)
in 6.xx series, guinsoo added lotsa new animations and character models ma, that's why most slower pcs will experience trememdous lag. look at clinks, now got fiery body liao, how not to lag?!?!
my opinion though is that all the new animations look freaking awesome, and is definitely worth the extra stress on my pc. one thing i don't like though is how viper the coatl looks like now =.=''
??komodo dragon???
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ahhah i know how you feel dude...
from a flying snake to a dawg... aztec legends dont have a snake god that LOOKS like a komodo dragon laugh.gif

QUOTE(szeping @ Apr 22 2005, 09:02 PM)
What they meant is, you can see the hero after casting it on the hero even if the hero turn into invisible.
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no no i get what they mean. what im trying to say is i would always cast it on every enemy heroes, juz for precaution.
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post Apr 22 2005, 10:04 PM

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you dont say a map is tougher juz because you dont play them long enough, but yes, new maps are defitely tougher - lot more heroes + lot more items = alot more combos + alot more strategies
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post Apr 22 2005, 10:31 PM

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never bother at all....
got bored playing the same thing again and again....

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post Apr 22 2005, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(Yukito @ Apr 22 2005, 11:01 PM)
but 6.06 already addressed many issues that made people's PC lag. I sure hope Chen comes back in the next version he's cool. Can anyone give me some tips on using Tiny da Mountain Giant properly ?
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hmm....
never tried using those new heroes, coz i'd always play -random laugh.gif
but maybe we can try out something at 27th this month, Yukito?
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sanjikun
post Apr 23 2005, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Ah WanG @ Apr 23 2005, 12:29 AM)
oic.. sorry cos i didn't know this bug b4.. just first time n so happened to learn about this.. tq for informing this bugs
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but then seriously, it's fun aight?
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post Apr 23 2005, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(szeping @ Apr 23 2005, 01:35 AM)
Can morphling steal timestop and use refresher orb?
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morphling can use refresher, but im not sure if you still can use timestop AFTER you copy it....
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post Apr 23 2005, 02:32 AM

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hmm....
i wonder if sven has deso and burize laugh.gif
swap MoM for Hyperstone XD
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post Apr 23 2005, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(Vampyr3 @ Apr 23 2005, 02:32 AM)
2 late......aledi abused it! Haha.....no lah, jk jk.....i play fair geh
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i wonder what will SA and Bones say if i abuse sentry wards copy wahhahhah!
btw, if morphling copies Eye of the Forest from Rootfellen, will it refresh faster than Rootfellen?

if so.....teeheehee.....
EyE the WhoLe MaP


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post Apr 23 2005, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(viNcee @ Apr 23 2005, 02:52 AM)
once u complete the bkb it's even more hopeless for your enemies tongue.gif

they tried buying a gem but my teammates gangbanged the fella kao kao. laugh.gif i once saw a clinkz with bkb and desolator solo down the tree of life with the two towers still there doh.gif
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HARRRR?!
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post Apr 23 2005, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Yukito @ Apr 23 2005, 03:42 PM)
Came back from ICCG, my friend played but I din played. First 4 rounds all won by Scourge. Why? See replay urself tongue.gif Although I don't know where to get it
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Mod himself spam ....LOLZ!!!
btw, you can save the replay right after you get to see your score....
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post Apr 24 2005, 01:06 AM

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WOW!
MEDUSA AT 6.05 IS AWESOME!!!!!!
PURGE CAN SLOW DOWN ATK AND MOVEMENT SPEED!!!!!!!

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post Apr 24 2005, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Kaydon @ Apr 24 2005, 04:59 AM)
try 6.06 and see if medusa is the same..
but starting from v.6 medusa is nerfed liao.. same goes to SA.. need to get use with the new skills.. medusa split arrow no longer does the same damage.. i heard the dmg drops by percentage of each arrow.. and apparently u can choose either to split arrow or just 1 arrow..
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6.06 lv 4 split arrow does 70% dmg for each.

QUOTE(YuuYuu @ Apr 24 2005, 01:18 PM)
iccg is the inter college cyber games at apiit college
pumping is damn gay la.
one of the games, scourge pump bone and sentinel pump sven
the bone killed sven (somehow) and took off 3 barracks on his own...
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waaaa
how did bones killed sven..... sweat.gif

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post Apr 24 2005, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Yukito @ Apr 24 2005, 03:07 PM)
Easy, if all heroes meet together, Timestop and bone already can take out 2 heroes within that time. Bane Elemental nightmare one hero and fiend grip another hero. Rest all gangbang sven. Works like a charm every single time. No matter how much you pump sven, bone won't be far away from you. The difference in in Timestop. Even if Sven got BKB before bone, which is what happened most of the time, timestop is ur biggest enemy. Thats why Scourge win every single round in ICCG
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NOT if sentinels have a good hero against faceless void - morphling.
both with carrion swarms, but in terms of atk, morphling tends to dominate - range and melee.
about bane....rarely seen him in action before the previous tournaments i entered
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post Apr 24 2005, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(gM | Mutsumi-san @ Apr 24 2005, 03:48 PM)
sob sob no need to remind all that ler tongue.gif
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oh you're taht morphing biggrin.gif
IMO, you dont need TOO many heroes to pump sven alone.
i mean, if it's a pumping game, then we might as well play techies la, KoTL la, Furion la, Silencer la....any hero that can give cash fast....

but....can you guys lemme know what heroes they used for each side?
make my own analysis XD


btw, EARTHSHAKER ROX!!!
BOY! HE'S THE HERO TAHT I LOVE NOW!
never thought he can be so imba by juz using all 3 skills......
DOUBLE KILL * 3 times juz now lolz!
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post Apr 24 2005, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Yukito @ Apr 24 2005, 04:50 PM)
Well as mentioned it was a game of pumping. If your side only got 3 people to pump sven, the other side got all 4 to pump bone, who will win? Naturally all 4 have to pump their respective heroes. And even though its a pumping game we can't risk using heroes that can farm well, we'll also need disablers and pushers for attacking. Anyway I feel like saying this: Scourge is overpower. Even though both Sven and bone are pumped to the same extend, even though if sven has the edge timestop makes the whole difference as it is an ulti and goes through bkb. Sven stunned, bone wins, thats how the scenario goes.

Sent: Rhasta, Morphling, Silencer, Sven, KoTL. Scourge: Bane Elemental, NA, Necrolyte, Bone, Timestopper
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hmm....
disablers and pushers...
KoTL wont do much IMO, against skilled pros he prolly wont stand a chance during mid-game - perfect target for bones if you ask me.
and what's morphling doing? why use morphling? 2 RoC/2 heals wont change anything, unless you guys are going for a rush.

somehow i feel uneasy with the choice of heroes sentinels made. if you really REALLY need pushers, you guys should have chosen a tanker-cum-healer - omniknight and 2 blink stunners - centaur + morphling. while morphling pumps up centaur, both silencer and omniknight can pump.

but that's how i play during clanmatches - ppl buy circlets and mantle for me, i use them for 2 nulls 2 cirlets 1 boots at beginning to kill heroes..... maybe u guys have your way of playing ^^
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post Apr 24 2005, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(tienhou18 @ Apr 24 2005, 08:09 PM)
perhaps there should be a dota competition where pumping is not allowed, then it would be more interesting, or else dota tourney would be plain boring watching both teams pumping their respective heroes...
come to think about it, it is timestop that's imbalanced i guess, because of timestop my medusa made triple kill in a clan game, sven died before he even got near me

by the way let's talk about 6.06, haha just played my 1st game of 6.06 just now, typed random and got necrolic, new necrolic with all new skills, 3v4 at the start as my team had 1 leaver, and then it became 2v4 as my pudge is a bloody noob feeder, but guess what, my necrolic made a triple kill haha...highest frag...but in the end lost of course, hate leavers and noobs....
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give necrolic a skaadi at lv 15 and see him owns!
btw his birdies are quite cool if used in focus-fire - increase dmg thumbup.gif
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post Apr 25 2005, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Yukito @ Apr 24 2005, 11:48 PM)
Well keeper of the light is there for farming and chakra, nothing else. Due to chakra, he gives u a very very big edge in early game, especially when all our heroes except Sven only has null talisman at max. Double warstomp sounds good but we were thinking more on the pushing part cause it was a 1 hour match and we know that we have to use sentinel's early advantage, which is to push. However, double warstomp could work and turn the tables around, we might try that next time.

We knew about the omniknight and saw a replay of some clan matches using him. But he requires a refresher orb to really push good and he's quite item dependent. Since we decided we had to push Sven all the way, we skipped him cause Timestop >>> Guardian Angel. Even if u use guardian angel, timestop and you are dead. And if we pumped a refresher orb for him, Bone >>> Sven.
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double stomp is a pushing technique what....
you stomp to chase heroes away.....sweat.gif

you dont need refresher to play GA, and besides, IF both timestop and GA are being activated at the same time, GA will definitely gain the upperhand - 9 seconds of GODLIKE rules over 5 seconds of timestop. and with that added health regen that is SOOOO bloody fast, you can go and attack for the 2nd round too....

actually, did you guys try to prevent bones from farming XP? like using rhasta to kill him off...something like that?


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post Apr 25 2005, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(Vampyr3 @ Apr 25 2005, 02:09 AM)
Huh? Soul steal can be interrupted with bolt meh? Dunno,never tried....but then again, soul steal is a bit buggy
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dunno bout 5.84c, but TB in 6.06 seems ok to me....
in fact, i'd never pawn so much before using him....
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post Apr 25 2005, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(YuuYuu @ Apr 25 2005, 04:18 PM)
yala, basket
i asked my friend who was the head organiser if they have the replays or not
but he still haven't reply me yet :S
i guess he busy cleaning up and stuff
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i still cant believe how da hell bones kill sven....
really need the replays to determine my doubts ....
YuuYuu do you mind passing the replays to me if you have it?
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