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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V23, It has come!Bulldozer heat is around us.

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post Aug 16 2010, 12:55 AM

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a quick question..

is 2.1vdimm is safe for a mobo with poor ram phase built?
1phase with 2mosfets i guess..

edit: if no cooling solution at all.. just depends on bare passive cooling (just asking for the worse case)


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post Aug 16 2010, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(dafreak @ Aug 16 2010, 11:00 PM)
i dont understand why you guys say cpu-z is not correct when the mobo itself is over/under- volting sweat.gif
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both not correct..

if u set vcore 1.30v.. sometimes the bios will not supply the correct amount.. lets take 1.28v as example..
and cpuz will detect the same as the bios detect.. if bios detect 1.28v..then cpuz will be the same.
(bios detect the vcore is not where u set the vcore.. u can find in the Hardware control or whatsoever, the place to set the fan speed mode)

but.. the circuit is not perfect.. so if u check with multimeter, it might differ..

3 diff values..
1- amount u set
2- amount delivured
3-exact amount delivured detect by multimeter..
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post Aug 17 2010, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(dafreak @ Aug 16 2010, 11:57 PM)
not everyone have/use multimeter right sweat.gif
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so..rely on the cpuz instead.. easy..
not the value u set..
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post Aug 17 2010, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(dafreak @ Aug 17 2010, 08:48 AM)
sweat.gif wasnt that what i was trying to say?

anyway, that's why we have software like cpu-z, HWmonitor and manufacturer's utilities (ET6 etc) to read actual voltage supplied
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yeah..indeed..i not telling u was wrong..just the value stated in CPUZ is wrong (or to be more precise, inaccurate)
sorry for the misunderstanding laugh.gif

change mobo..
but unable to boot..stuck afer post.. at " AMD DMI Pool change.....success" award bios
i check at bios.. seems it detect my HDD..
but turn ahci mode, "no device detected"

anyone?

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post Aug 17 2010, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Aug 17 2010, 10:24 AM)
Change mobo? Must be gaygaybyte bcoz of Award bios  brows.gif
What model bro?
Why do u turn on AHCI mode bro? Do u really need it? hmm.gif
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no la..not giga..
old skool mobo with ddr2..
1st i run with native IDE... stuck..
2nd i run with ACHI.. no device detected..
3rd i run HDD-less... and shows no device to boot.. press enter to retry like that..

both 1st and 2nd attempt the bios detected my HDD with exact model..

i think the HDD is dying la.. since last night was OCing and restarted several times
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Aug 17 2010, 10:48 AM)
Bro a simple but stoopid question ah, did u set the correct boot up drive in the bios?  Maybe its reading from incorrect drive? sweat.gif  hmm.gif
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HDD is the 1st to boot..
and the only HDD connected..so it will be the 1st priority..

nvm..will post this question at technical support then...this is absolutely off topic smile.gif
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post Aug 17 2010, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(verdict @ Aug 17 2010, 11:46 AM)
I have this prob before on my AMOiii... laugh.gif

BUt after put some value (set the voltage) in bios...it manage to load smoothly...

cant remember which part did i change the value... hmm.gif

later tonight will update you... laugh.gif
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aiya..not amoi..it edward lol

btw since u the former user of this board..mybe u can help... and ah khoo too..and xixo too..

dfi 790fxb m2rsh..is there any setting i missed out?
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 17 2010, 11:59 AM)
a stupid question... are u sure d sata cable is fully working? have u tried diff sata cable?  sweat.gif
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2 sata cables tested..3 hdd tested..
both sata HDD is with win7.. IDE with XP..
IDE HDD working Sata wont..

btw the seller told me that is must be the setting..that is y i ask here since there are few experienced user..


Added on August 17, 2010, 12:04 pmculprit found in the very old thread u posted ah khoo.... smile.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/959800/+20
booted..

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post Aug 17 2010, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Aug 17 2010, 12:07 PM)
Fuyooo 790FX mobo already  notworthy.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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i lambat 2tahun dari u all.. when 7series reduced to death, i baru nk start guna

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 17 2010, 12:17 PM)
halah... rupe2 nyer is d table thingy... arrghhh... i hate it too back then, was left scrathcin my head until all d kelumumur dropped...  mad.gif
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huhu.. tonnes of setting been experimented..at last ur post saved me wub.gif wub.gif

QUOTE(azilazwa @ Aug 17 2010, 12:21 PM)
lol.. i forgot whats the setting. thanx to ah_khoo thread. hehe. gud luck with your new mobo kunta.  smile.gif
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yeah... btw this mobo working fine till now.. will start belek2 tonight.. now dont have much time..
(night temp lower.. so i like prime all night long wub.gif wub.gif )
btw happy birthday bro..ur birthday bring luck to me wub.gif


Added on August 17, 2010, 1:44 pmbtw sis verdict..thanks for ur concern.. i found the prob edi.. not related to OC yet tho..

btw sb 1.8v eh? not 1.2 ke default?

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post Aug 18 2010, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Aug 17 2010, 04:35 PM)
wow..that board.. gcb  laugh.gif

great cute motherboard  tongue.gif
at least try to reset bios...  the bios is so simple to play
orang suda xpakai saya baru sebok mau pakai la sweat.gif sweat.gif
kekeke

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 17 2010, 05:32 PM)
they should have made it enabled by default... well, dfi bios always got some flaws here & there (spellin & etc...), but when it comes to overclockability, nothing beats genie bios... it's a cryin shame that they're outta business... finger crossed for biostar to be the nearest replacement to dfi (bios & overclockability wise)...  hmm.gif
will test out soon.. because of ur words years ago saying DFI bestest, i bought this..if not..i might wait few more weeks to grab 880 evo..
but i have prob with my proc.. processor model unknown and i believe this is the latest bios d.. might have hard time OC with this proc..

QUOTE(verdict @ Aug 17 2010, 10:38 PM)
Wahhhh...sudah settle erk...those acpi thinggy erk? ekekekeke...
That SB is 1.2v ler...1.8 is the MAX....
jgn gatai letak 1.8v...later bau hangus...ekekekeke....DFI FTW... cool2.gif
i thought u directed me to put 1.8v.. huhuuh.. if then, there goes my mobo sweat.gif
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post Aug 18 2010, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(nicholas0507 @ Aug 18 2010, 07:13 AM)
then change ur processor also biggrin.gif
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wah..u also pandai poison like unker ah khoo eh laugh.gif

if im about to change proc.. that will mean thuban..but now no mobo can support thuban with me..old mobo with no newer bios revision..
i dont need anything beyond 2cores..but might need better IMC..
so for now will settle with this proc only..see how it goes.. whistling.gif whistling.gif

ha.. one more thing..since u still using the same mobo..what is the "HTT gab XX" cant really remember the term..right below the option to change HTT
it default at 5..

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post Aug 18 2010, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(nicholas0507 @ Aug 18 2010, 07:37 AM)
yup...is 5
yalor...there is no more newer bios,this is the only thing i dun like it cry.gif
else,thuban ftw biggrin.gif
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no..was asking u what is that.. i stated the default value to make sure u and i talking about the same thing..

u try adjust the value?What will hppen eh? i dont have much time to play last night.. felt sick.
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post Aug 19 2010, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 18 2010, 08:12 AM)
leave it as it, i supposed ur referrin to d one w/ arrow up & down rite?
are u talking about 16↑ 16↓ on HT link width unker?
that is not it..

iinm it is HTT adjust gab.. the value can be put is up to 255.. and i dont even know what is that..nvm.. 2nights dont have time to tweak.. sleep early...
hope today im free abit.


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QUOTE(nicholas0507 @ Aug 18 2010, 05:36 PM)
here or here u go smile.gif
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owh...thanks.. yah.. sorry for the spoon feeding.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
it works on phenom.. i guess its phenomI.. but still i use no phenom..will not effect me tho..thanks

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post Aug 20 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Aug 19 2010, 08:54 PM)
Yup bro that's how it looked, just a normal plain jane looking ram  laugh.gif

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wow...
rempit's module eh? saw bike picture over there.. blush.gif blush.gif

so far how much u able to push cloudnwan? cl7..
this module really dont like high volt ke? does it perform bad with higher volt? i dont think i see some high volt attempt from u
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Aug 20 2010, 12:40 AM)
Yup mat rempit module sweat.gif laugh.gif
Not yet bro, waiting for a secondary hdd to arrive to be use as a benchy hdd, sked using my current system hdd coz already corrupted the boot twice already, luckily can restore/repair back sweat.gif
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mem tweaking is veli2 convenient bro...
its either worker fail (if only large test) or unable to boot..seldom restart2.. (but might differ btween u and me tho)

no need backup benching HDD..

or else dont plug in the HDD.. memtest +86.. so go OC those module now!!kkekeke

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 20 2010, 08:17 AM)
most d9 are volt lovers, so it's not so suitable for those kiasi ppl like me if i were to fully utilize it. for sure they can do tight (7-7-7 atleast) timing @ decent freq...  nod.gif
from what i read, elpida don't really like juice, it wont perform bad w/ higher volt like > 2.0v, but no point increasin volt if higher amount of juice doesn't help in reachin higher mileage/timing tightenin no?  unsure.gif

dun provoke abg otromen to burn his ram leh, nanti i yg susah...  sweat.gif
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now im stuck with d9 that not really a volt lover.. he loves volt sket2 je..keke

2.0 is too much to ask.. at least 1.8vdimm ka.. since we all sked2.. not going insane like sir antonio..i belive 1.8-1.85 is absolutely safe volt.
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 20 2010, 10:04 AM)
itu ultraman duk dlm utan.. 2.0v also ok.. haha
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utan now still panas.. keke..

dfi fxb m2rsh anyone?
im not really done playing..but i consider done..only can gain 50mhz more .. just the bios is rich in ram subtiming..i rike wub.gif wub.gif
might be using this crap proc hinder the true potential..
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 20 2010, 03:44 PM)
there's nothing much can be done if d chip is a lemon... u just need a decent b50/b55, i can safely say it's one of d best ddr2 board for phenoms...  thumbup.gif
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no..i need no other proc except thuban.. if no thuban, it will be regor only..keke
i dont play with CPU oc much unker.. since i think i already know the potential,either by reading or keep using same proc for long time..
just OC with stock vcore and see how far..
thinking to let go this mobo la..financial problem...
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 20 2010, 04:22 PM)
how much is a 2nd hand regor (real, not unlocked) cost nowadays? d advantage of playin regor is they're really cool, so no premium coolers needed. there's hardly any chip from amd that can be primed @ 1.6xv w/o gettin too hot... i miss d x2 240 ledi...  sad.gif

i sense 8xx mobo comin, if u plan to stick w/ ddr2 platform, sellin fxb is a mistake... i betcha knew that... so... r u joinin d asus premium club like abg otromen, bro ronald & sir Louis???  brows.gif  drool.gif
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2nd hand i dont know since i dont even think to buy it.. i own unlock regors..the prev statement means that if not thuban, i wont change... tongue.gif
i still carik2 fund to back to ddr3..that is y i not planning to sell of the team elite..once i sell them, even hard for me to back to ddr3..
and also i dont need a high end mobo that can run my proc at high clock,able to withstand high volt since i dont even clock my proc high. mybe will, but only last max 1 day..
it will be a waste of money..
plus 1 only need a ok ok mobo that have IGP for daily use.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

asus premium eh? will be a dream unker.. sweat.gif
evo perhaps.. CIVF.. never..
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 20 2010, 05:03 PM)
that depends on how u define high end, > RM500, > RM750 or near to RM1k? laugh.gif

a decent board not necessarily costly, but not havin a decent board could mean average/poor ram mileage (i consider u njoy tweakin ram more than chip). havin a decent board is like ownin a gud car, u mite drive it @ normal speed most of d time but u can drive as fast as u want (well, obviously not as fast as premium cars) when u have d "urge".  tongue.gif
high end - the highest of its product line.. kekekeke.. price might vary..
yeah... still decent board still no need for daily usage..normal with IGP board enough..
i guess i have to separate my daily use PC and gatal2 tangan PC..

im not old yet..but now i not playing any games, do any stressful task that need superfast PC..so even p4 enough for me i guess..

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