Hello, firstly I want to appologise if this is not the best place to ask this question, but let us all keep open mind since this is the health and fitness forum.

First off, d confessions that I am 20 yrs old and I have just realise I have been TFK almost every days (usually once/day, most ever is 2 times, but only very occasional) for 6 yrs alreadi and recently this year I have began to reduce the number of times because 1) I suddenly start to become bored of it (may be sign of mature mind ?) and 2) because of health concerns..
2.1 I came to realise my posture has become worse because of doing it
2.2 Read that ppl online say it is not good during 20/30/40's as it may lead to disease and problems
2.3 Recent 3 months I have been having stomach troubles, but I am not sure what is the cause - I burp a lot after each meal like there is always a lot of "air" in stomach. I do not know if this has any relations to TFK or if it is just psychological thinking, as the burps come quite freqently (but not always) and a lot of burps at night. So happens nowadays I also do not TFK that often...

Anyways,since teh frequent stomach air come in April and also want to "turn over new leaf", I started writing down days to reduce. I have reduced from TFK once per day to once per 1.5 days in April (19 times), once per 2 days in May (15 times) and this month is my record once per 3 days (9 times). These numbers are average, but uneven.. (eg. sometimes during weekends I do it 3 days in a row, then after taht didn't do for 6-8 days).

My plan is to stop this bad habit once and for all in next month. But I am looking to seek advice if there are any side effects like disease or health issue if I suddenly stop TFK? Because the body may be already be conditioned for so long to do once a day, then reduce, and then suddenly stop?

If you stop, you will get d*** cancer in a year or two

how old are u?

you mean you start TFK since your 14 years old ?! i only know those thing when i was 20.....

whats wrong with kids nowaday......

btw, the "burps" might be cause by your eating habit....

did you eat 3 meal per day? maggi or fast food doesnt count as square meal....

Well, 2.1 and 2.3 is nonsense. TFK is not the cause of it.

And for 2.2, there have been research that both agrees and disagree of a correlation between TFK and cancer, but otherwise, I do not remember anything preverse coming out of doing it too much.

IMHO, it is psychological. As I subscribe more to behavioristic point of psychological view, I'd say you have associated TFK with pleasure (well, tis true..) and thus you continue to derive joy from it. So, start doing other things when you feel like TFK, take your mind off it, that really helps.

I am 20 =.=

To your disappointment, yes I started earlier and I don't think i am the only one. I am planning to change that however.

Yes I have 3 meals per day, but yes I agree with your point - sometimes I eat quite little for lunch/dinner and on weekends I wake up late, nvr eat breakfast. I feel that my stomach is more sensitive to timing these few months. I MUST eat around 7 am, 12 pm and 6 pm to reduce a lot or have no burping. Also seems to occur when I sleep anytime after 12 am when in bed, so I try to sleep earlier recently and change my routine.

About the TFK part, to explain further, last time I do it daily because of there (and my sometimes dirty mind) being "itchy" for some, then it slowly turn into habit, this few months both "dirty mind" and "habit" extinguish and I only do it for stress reduction only. My plan to substitute stress reduction with sleep instead so instead of TFK in july, I will try to focus on other thing or just sleep to prevent myself.

I am only scared of the effects... since I have been doing it for so long, what is the future effect? How about effect after stopping?

aiyo, the solution is obvious lah. Get yourself a girlfriend lah

Don't fret about the 'dirty' thing. I do not see anything wrong with masturbation, it just just anyone way to experience sexual orgasm. You ever heard of the joke that when you feel horny, go take a cold bath? That do work, as you are merely associating a thought with a unsatisfying action. Your brain will learn soon that everytime it have a sexual thought, it will end up being in cold water.

So, subsitution works, maybe go take a walk or do some pushups or whatever when you do feel bored and wants to TFK, it will allow your mind to refocus on something else.

As I've said, there is no concrete research that mentions TFK causes anything, even the correlation between that and testicular cancer is poor, thus I do not see any problems.

ya i know so i use the term "kids" instead of "kid"

i agree with fuzzy. correct your mind set. DONT 24/7 day day time time everywhere think of those itchy stuff...its ok when you saw some "wow" stuff and think bout it, but get back to yourself and think normal stuff after that.

for me , the only thing you have to worry bout TFK is ur hygiene (on ur "important part", do clean it after TFK/daily to prevent cancer around ur batang...i'm serious bout this) and forcefully do the TFK (meaning, cannot stim already but you still force "it" to stim, this will lead to mati pucuk, and i'm serious bout this too)

i guess every gents here go through ur time. my opinion is that as long ur body are healthy, the tfk habit does not need to be stop
cuz ur body have use to that kind of life style. so if you suddenly stop all the TFK activity (assuming you are health now) at all, i fear that ur body might not use to it. it will be best if you reduce ur TFK frequency it little by little (exp : last time 7 day per week, now start with 5 per week , then after a 3 week like that reduce it again to 3 times) to avoid sudden "shock" to your body.

DO NOT stop TFK AT ALL ... TFK are just like sport, need practice too. you stop too long time then later when you're old you will find that you cant do it cuz lack of practice. (but everyday ? no no... try reduce it so ur body can have some rest ...).

the good thing about breaking this habbit is it will naturally come out if you stop doing it meaning youll often have wet dreams, try it. Proven, because ive experienced it.

Thanks for the advice everyone, I have currently manage to reduce to once per 3 days which is around 2 or 3 times a week and manage to not get "addiction withdrawal" effect (cuz I heard tfk is addicting and I agree)

another one concern I have is before I found out to tfk shortly before shower.. Is I used to TFK in my underwear (yes it sounds disgusting but many would agree it has better "friction") and only wash up later (depends few mins or few hrs) then only go shower. this was around 2005-08) Would this have any negative effect in long term?

I forgot to mention another reason I want to stop/reduce is also I realise the hassle of deal with clean up later and also it can be tiring, means I will waste a lot of time slacking or resting around

Yes, it carries the negative effect of having to buy more underwear due to wear and tear effects in the long term.

Hello. Er.. sorry to disturb this male talk, but I can't help myself but wonder what is 'TFK'? I know what you guys are referring to, but why call it TFK?

You wonder what is TFK but you know what we a referring to?

So that's it? How bout any effect on the skin in the area "down there"? So far no itches or changes or anything [knock on wood]

Come to think of it, I never really thought about it. I just know what TFK means, but have no clue what it has to do with beating/taking ride on planes

before talking about the negatives and positives of TFK..........
here's a thought..........
what are the difference between having sex and TFK?

Err, the first one has 2 ppl, 2nd one involves only yrself and ur hand?

the process is roughly the same no?
and your body doesn't know the difference......result is the same...........
conclusion you do on your own...........

I thought masturbation is normal? Chill bro. You are over-analyzing.

lol at first I don't, but after reading a few posts, it's obvious what TFK is referring to.. but I mean, what is T-F-K.. it's obviously an abbreviation, but to what word? Sorry I'm malay, if it's some chinese word, obviously I wouldn't know what it is hehe Like how I learned in this forum FFK actually is an abbreviation of Fong Fei Kei haha

'Beating [the] aeroplane' would be it, in Cantonese.

It's only unhealthy due to the possibility of mental addiction to the act (action brings about gratification, result: repeat the action), and social stigma. Much like how physical contact between romantic partners may be frowned upon in some places and not others.

If someone can provide a link to a causal (and not a correlative) research on masturbation and any physical side effects, I'd gladly read it. Otherwise, please stop scaring the poor fellow.

But what's the long word for TFK 'Tong Fong Ko'? 'Ting Fing King'? Something? lol.... unless you guys can't say it?

u sure u wana know? wired to tell in forum...anyway..as for ts....stop whenever u felt uncomfortable..as 20s is the peak season of guys...or find a gf...

Weird to mention how to say the full TFK word or the meaning? But Nevins said 'Beating [the] aeroplane'.. that doesn't sound weird, even if the actual meaning is (and why that is related to masturbation o.O) But nah, it's okay.. if it's weird to be mentioned here then it's ok, was just curious that's all

But TFK is a normal thing..

Well if you really must have it spelled out: Ta Fei Kei.

I'm not very good with hanyupinyin and/or the Cantonese variant so I didn't want to make a mistake. Why would it be related to masturbation...? That I do not know, being the culturally-isolated Chinese that I am.

And you're right, masturbation is but a normal part of physical development. I daresay almost everyone here has experienced it in one form or another at some point in time. It may not necessary involve direct hand contact, but let's not go into that sort of discussion just yet.

No, no studies have been able to prove otherwise .. So, I guess do go and enjoy those 'experiences', masturbation is frowned upon due to the social view towards sexuality rather than preverse effect on health.

Well thank you Nevins lol Just wanted to know the full word, that's all.. Is the full word a taboo word for Chinese? Because you guys seem reluctant to say the full word.

But what I can see, masturbation is more frowned upon by very religious people and older generations.. for younger generation nowadays like us, it seems like a very normal thing and can even discuss with friends like it's an everyday thing. I haven't heard of anyone who does it reporting of having any unhealthy effect unless you use other than 'traditional' methods which I don't want to mention. It just can affect your ways of thinking.. some people can become too addicted and too perverted, which is so not good..

Just as long as one doesn't become like Jim in the movie American Pie, then it should be ok, haha. But if TS wants to stop once and for all, then I don't think there's any effect on the body.. just your mind because you've been doing it for years, and now you want to stop.. but yeah, gradually reducing it is good..

This post has been edited by tokyotenshi: Jun 28 2010, 11:24 PM

dont worry bout it ts.. you will get bored of it eventually.. especially after you start your working life..

dis is true......everyone do it alot of times back in high sch....

ya ya....when at teenager age can't seems to have enough of it....now after start working due to the stress the frequency has reduced significantly...

i don't think there will be any harm in TFK la...eventually full tangki it will overflow ma, it has to come out one way or the other....LOL

SOS : http://menshealth.about.com/od/sexualhealt...sturbation5.htm

To TS! Couldn't agree less with other forumers. You'll eventually get bored and tired with TFK when you set foot into the working life. And I don't see any side effects of your action. The only side effect would be having wet dream. That's all I could think of at this moment.

but wanna ask, do u guys have as frequent wet dreams now as wat u used to have when u were teen if u din tfk?

nothing wrong with it..
u wont die from TFK. hahahahhaaa

but screwing a hooker might.. AIds...

It's not taboo, it's just that some may be somewhat embarrassed to talk about it. I use proper terminology anyway so it's not an issue for me.

You're right, it's frowned upon by some social circles, religious groups not the least, simply because of the stigma attached to it. Life and times may change, but mindsets rarely do. And even then, not altogether willingly.

End of the day, as long as no one is mentally hooked to it, then it's perfectly normal; not something you'd want to announce to the world, but a normal phase in sexual development nonetheless. Perhaps when the powers-that-be introduce proper sexual education in schools, the general public will be better informed about this, as opposed to having to sift through potentially misleading, conflicting, or plain 'makes-no-sense' information.

Nah TS,its perfectly normal for that thing to happen
btw if u stopped doing it no side effects or something ler but got once i got it off my mind and started to get used to it
then TFK isn't my fav liao
suddenly a few days hand itchi go do again now everyday once again back to the world..hmm get a gf then u will think about normal things bah..that happens to me though haha

links pls.

i have the same problem. but i can control abit unlike ts.
trust me. this doesnt help much. maybe it does abit. coz wen the times im not wif my gf n i get horny i have to do it and it happens quite often whenever she's not around.

nah its very different. the feeling and the whole process of having sex and masturbating. people who experienced both should know.

Guess what..
TFK is actually a good habit for males but don't do it too often..

Benefits can be gained from TFK :

- Burns less amount of calories
- Recycles produced sperms & semens
- Releases tension/stress
And lots more..

TFK too much will cause a male to feel tired easily and nothing will happen to you if you stop doing that from now onwards.
Have fun =)

This post has been edited by xMH-: Jul 4 2010, 05:09 PM

have to agree with most of this.
first- TFK does burn calories because of muscle contraction and movement but too little. more calories can be burned through sexual intercourse.
second- yeah because sperms life cycle is only 72 hours(3days) after its going to die also so why not just take it out?
third- its true and sometimes it can lower your sexual feelings which can lead to rape/molesting.

Solution for u bro....
Get a Girlfren for urself....then u can do other than TFK...
perhaps, she can help u to beat it. . . LOL

There is no wrong with TFK but of course, if your "brother" start bleeding, then STOP..doing it further...Haha

go massage parlour let other tfk for u.... then u will forget tfk urself d...

dun stop till u get enough

I have 1 friend who can masturbate for like 7 times in a day.
However, for me, I guess the answer is:
If you're in the MOOD, just DO it.

By the way, it's harmless to do masturbation generally under normal condition.

anything excessive is bad for you. physically & mentally.

You can always try to stop "TFK" from thinking the positive way ..That's what i always do and i already stop that habit 2 months i guess?Try hearing music or exercise if you feel like getting horny.And yes many doctor had proof that "TFK" it's healthy as long as you don't addicted in it try to do it once in 2 weeks !I had stopped it 2 months as i mentioned but after i stopped the wet dreams are coming this recently ..sometimes it comes by 2-3 times a week ...try looking for more answer that you're looking for by browsing the internet you won't get any answer that satisfy you here =)

This post has been edited by long6731: Dec 4 2011, 12:37 PM

it actually helps reducing the chances of getting prostrate cancer by 50% ...so do it moderately but dont stop completely ...

7 times bro??

He trolling you kot.. You can die doing that

just get rid of it and go get a life,like what i did
it is true that tfk has no harm?not really
without doubt it will affect ur mentality and physiology,and these will affect ur physical healthy

trust me,u will feel full of spirit and more confidence after u get rid of it

No need stop.. Surf porn more.
Like others said when u working. No time to tfk

I believe I have the answer to why Cantonese called male masturbation as "Ta Fei Kei(TFK)" which means beating the aeroplane in English. The word TFK started in the 90's in HK and KL if I'm not mistaken. During that time, video games arcade in shopping mall are very popular among youngsters, and there was this fighter jet arcade game which uses joystick to control the jet.

One fine day, Ah Beng and Ah Seng went to shopping mall video games arcade to play that fighter jet game. While the two were enjoying the games to the max, being young, curious and dirty minded, suddently Ah Beng say:

Ah Beng: Seng arr, dont you think this joystick we are holding resemble our kuku jiao?
Ah Seng: Yahor, as if when I'm jerking off.
Ah Beng: Exactly dude, my kuku look exactly the same as this joystick.
Ah Seng: LOL, your imagination are good.
Ah Beng: Yeah dude, from today's onward we will call masturbation as TFK.
Ah Seng: Cool bro, TFK la lei!

The word spread very quickly among Ah Beng and Ah Seng friends and friend of friends. Everybody seems to agree with Ah Beng theory and therefore, the word TFK officially means male masturbation in Cantonese speaking community.

Have you ever watched a war movie showing anti-aircraft cannons? How does it shoot? Sometimes a soldier uses a standing gun held with two hands. Rapidly fire, forward, back, forward, back, ack-ack, ack-ack ..... heheh.

THere was once I read about a psychological effect on tfk.

erm, coz when we tfk fantasize its ok, but if watch too much adult video and tfk. later our marriage partner didnt live up to the standard of those adult video stuff, penis can not easily become hard.

also they said we can only ejaculate not more than 3000 or 5000 times rite?

its a myth man...we can ejact more then dat...

oO...I am somewhat relieve....haha

LOL!!!

1) whole body workout
2) arm workout

Got people still tfk once 2 days or some shit like dat?

I never tfk for dunno how many months liao and still normal.

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