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lollipopx
post Jul 3 2010, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ Jul 3 2010, 03:21 PM)
babe, u know why she avoiding you?

easy!

if refund, she need to pay in full amount to you which she rugi double included what she paid to wendy but she gains NUT

if replace, she just need to pay for the cost of buying the bb cream and do not need to return her profit to you.

so this is the way she can save the in between refund and replacement


Added on July 3, 2010, 3:26 pm

dont frust here

dont take example like honda

if u wan take exampl like honda, simply i ask u one thing!

if today my honda bought from u, got part fault and suppose to return back to u to repair and so, but after all your ocmmunication with japan got problem. japan not willing to repair and now you come back to tell me oh japan not taking responsible so you not held any responsible as well?

is this called responsible?

when got problem and you reverse blame on supplier so you can hold no blame?

so if u really get con or not? suddenly you said wendy stock real but not and silly stupid story rounding up.

suddenly u even drag optical shop selling fake? so people open store can sell fake meaning u can immitate how people way to do business?

and again, dont say such ask us to prove your stock is real? you are smart but dont say again repeat again stupid thing.

IS YOU AS THE SELLER TO PROVE YOUR STOCK AUTHENTICITY BUT NOT BUYER

same applied to your honda, if i found my car to be problem with engine, so i need to dianogsis in front of honda fella to show it is really problem?WTF, isnt got problem i send back to my honda service centre to repair for me but y the service center ask me to prove the engine problem? so you want the accident really happened thus to prove it does engine problem is it?
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THEN WHEN THAT WENDY CANT GIVE ME AND CANT SHOW ME WHERE AM I SUPPOSE AND WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO SHOW U ALL!GO ASK WENDY FOR IT!IF I GOT IT FROM HER EARLY I WILL SHOW IT OUT ALREADY JUZ FORGET IT WATEVA U ALL WANNA SAY SAY...WANNA REPORT POLICE...GO
I CANNOT STOP U ALL FROM DOIN SO!I SAY WAN CHANGE..U ALL SAY FAKE...U ALL WAN REFUND!ASK WENDY TO REFUND!
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post Jul 3 2010, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(lollipopx @ Jul 1 2010, 08:47 PM)
i cant refund u coz now im personally changing it for u by buying from my new supplier...i really cant refund back to u im sry
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Is there a difference? you're using your money to buy new stock from a new supplier.. why not just refund the money that you're going to use to buy the new stock?
I think u guys should just quickly lodge a police report and not waste your time here anymore. She just gonna keep making excuses and blah blah blah... better make a report asap before its too late to take any action.

This post has been edited by SuggieBliss: Jul 3 2010, 04:13 PM
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post Jul 3 2010, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(lollipopx @ Jul 3 2010, 03:31 PM)
THEN WHEN THAT WENDY CANT GIVE ME AND CANT SHOW ME WHERE AM I SUPPOSE AND WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO SHOW U ALL!GO ASK WENDY FOR IT!IF I GOT IT FROM HER EARLY I WILL SHOW IT OUT ALREADY JUZ FORGET IT WATEVA U ALL WANNA SAY SAY...WANNA REPORT POLICE...GO
I CANNOT STOP U ALL FROM DOIN SO!I SAY WAN CHANGE..U ALL SAY FAKE...U ALL WAN REFUND!ASK WENDY TO REFUND!
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girl from the start to the end your already prove to all that you DO NOT WANT TO LOOSE YOUR PROFIT


dont think that your a girl so guys or other females do not dare to approach you.

if i was the buyer i dont think you got chance to go for a toilet break as i will be at your door step each day.

and much easy is i will stalk your house and office area or skol or watever the place you go in and out.

your not making it well but your playing fire on 1 side of your hand and holding a bottle of petrol on your other side
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post Jul 4 2010, 12:21 AM

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FOR EVERYONES INFORMATION IF YOU WANT A REFUND,PLEASE GIVE ME PROOF THAT MY PRODUCTS ARE FAKE!THEN I WILL REFUND.IF THERE IS SOME MALFUNCTION,I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO CHANGE FOR YOU.THANK YOU.


http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry34368489


Well you already said/ admitted that your supplier gave you some fake stock earlier in this thread... so i guess this situation is solved.


Proof:
QUOTE(lollipopx @ Jul 1 2010, 12:52 AM)
Well,Edlina,Joybutterable I got d latest news and found out that wendy's stock some is fake and some is real.I asked her for settlement but she dint even reply my sms,my call neither my msg in msn.As a result,edlina,its my mistake to believe this wendy.I called up that MR LIM and a man picked up and i realise wendy voice is at the back of the conversation.Now i am also a victim,i also wanna know what can i do to solve this problem.As now i already changed a supplier,if its ok for you edlina,i will replace with my own money for u for hot pink as i cant refund for u...im really sorry.Kindly let me know thank you
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You can't push everything to the supplier. You decided to sell for them, you opened a thread and sold it, people bank in to your account. You must be responsible for your own faults.
If all the sellers in Lowyat told their buyers to refer back to the suppliers/ boss, do u think anything will be solved? Who people buy from is who they refer to. Simple as that.

This post has been edited by SuggieBliss: Jul 4 2010, 12:24 AM
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post Jul 4 2010, 02:38 AM

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This is not making sense at all...

you get your stuff from supplier which is fake and you said u will Not REFUND because u purchase it with ur own money for another supplier.. So, why can't you refund the money to the buyer ?? and you just ask the buyer to blame on the supplier which is selling the fake product to you ??? WTH are this words ??? If you don't responsible to REFUND to the buyer, then Don't be a seller selling at anywhere on the website. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif Now, TS just want a REFUND NOT PRODUCT... NO MATTER YOU CHANGE YOUR SUPPLIER OR NO , THIS IS CALL RESPONSIBILITY AS A SELLER.... Unless you said the product is damage while shipping from your supplier or others which is make sense lo.

I guess you have to do more research, how to become a Seller Online...

Hope this problem can settle as soon as possible.

This post has been edited by StrawberryGirL: Jul 4 2010, 02:41 AM
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post Jul 4 2010, 03:15 AM

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Like I always say, what happens between seller and buyer is between them only.
What goes on behind the scene i.e. between seller and his/her supplier; that's another different matter altogether.

So if I go, Carrefour to buy something and resell and the buyer finds something not right; what do I do? I insist on him/her going back to Carrefour to "claim", "complain" "ask for refund"?!.... of course not!

Same goes in this current situation. You cannot push everything to your supplier. That is between you and your supplier. If like this, then the supplier says it's the factory's fault then what?! They all go Korea or whatever place they produce the product?!

Only one advise, BE RESPONSIBLE! You chose to "carry" and resell the product in order to make a profit. Now there's problem; you just walk away?! You took your risk and now the risk comes back and bite you.

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post Jul 4 2010, 06:35 AM

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we dealt with you, not ur supplier.. is wendy's fault for selling fake products but u are the person whom dealt with us, and u mentioned if the stock if fake then will have refund, and now, u admitted the stock is fake, so will u keep the promise to refund? a good and responsible seller siding their customers when anything happened to the stocks.. supplier gives u problem stocks, its ur problem, not ours! we order through you, so u gonna be responsible over it..
rough estimation, 14gold label xRm41 , 2hotpink xRm32, 9hotpink xRm35=RM 953(still got two time postage and replacement units' postage 3 times)..
i invested nearly 1k for fake stock... u are the seller so u have to be responsible for it..
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post Jul 4 2010, 11:58 AM

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one thing i wan you to clarify..how do you get new stock for the replacement??

1. did you buy the replacement from new supplier?
2. if you buy, whos money you use? yours?

if all the above true then why you cant refund with your own money..if you buy new one + postage clearly more loss to your side..

simple solution yet you try to make it complicated rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Jul 4 2010, 02:09 PM

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As a cosmetic seller, frankly, be a seller is not with that way. Although I'm not the most experience seller here in LYN, but at least you know the moral values well when doing business with people.

If you are very sure your stocks are real, and as you promised on your thread last time, i remembered you promised to show your buyers the EMS receipt from Korea, right? So where is the receipt?

Secondly, why those buyers not begging refund from wendy???? Easy, Because they were not buying from Wendy. They bought from you, lollipox, here, in LYN. Don't ever ask your clients to approach your whoever supplier, because You are the seller, not them.

Then, it is your responsibility too to ensure whether the stocks you took are authentic. It's your job to check every single features/logo/wordings/EVERYTHING of your stocks once you got it from your supplier EVEN you know this supplier is trustable.
But your condition there was, you never see the stocks, you never own the stocks, you only take orders, then your suppliers pack and post out to your clients. Then why you were telling your clients your stocks are Authentic since you NEVER checked before? This is for sure your bloody fault. No excuse, No blaming.
You remembered in this thread, your previous post, you were saying that you found out Wendy's stocks are fake?
But now you are blaming your buyers accusing you about the fake products. This is really funny. And I am confused too reading posts here, few days ago you apologized saying your stocks are fake. Today you are saying all buyers are accusing you about the authenticity.

If SKIN79 really has so many different packagings over different countries, how come your stocks from Korea, and we all sellers here also take stocks from Korea, why is it we are having the different patterns of stocks compare to yours?
Why same manufacturing batch of stocks from Korea of yours and other sellers in LYN will have differences? This is impossible. To change a packaging is not in 1-2days matter.

Do business of course NO REFUND. But this is only applicable to REAL BUSINESS. HONEST BUSINESS.
If the stocks is authentic, have no problem, then of course you shouldn't refund.
But now they are not. You yourself already claimed that the stocks are fake.

The best way to solve:
To those your buyers who want a refund, you must refund to them.
To those who are willing to trust you again, and accept your replacement, then you replace.
You will never have the right to force your buyer to accept your replacement. SINCE your fault at the first.
You have to bear the lost (if you have to.) You have to see this as lesson. (if you are really cheated by Wendy)

There're no free lunch in this world. Did a mistake, accept the lesson and learn from it.
Hope you understand. =)
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post Jul 5 2010, 12:02 AM

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Lollipopx sms me today:

"I will refund for you send back your items to D- 49, Jln Durian,81000 Kulai Johor, refund after your item recieved"

"Wendy Said you send back only she will refund or you direct call her or i ask her call you"

"Now she don see stock she wont refund thats all, she want d stock and she will refund once she get it, that is her conditionsif wanna refund, i already did my best sorry"

"i already said! Wendy want to see the stocks! don you understand she already pay no stock no refund thats it"

"That is all i can do you wan refund i refund if you scared we lie then i cant do anything sorry"

"You only saying things i already say send back and i refund thats it,no need me to talk so much with you, i already ask her to refund and thats its, some more you wanna say this and that."



SHE SAID WANNA REFUND,THEN REFUND LAHHH!! WHY WANT ME TO SEND THE STOCK TO HER WENDY 1ST THEN REFUND??? .. FAKE TETAP FAKE! WHAT THE DIFFERENCE??? U KNEW,SHE KNEW,EVERYBODY KNEW ITS FAKE!!

LOLLIPOPX U THE ONE HAVE TO REFUND ME TO ME MAH! NOT THIS WENDY!! U REFUND ME, THEN WENDY REFUND U MAH! SIMPLE AS I DEALT WITH U AND U DEALT WITH DIS WENDY BEFORE..

DONT MENTION WENDY DIS, WENDY DAT ALL THE TIME LAHHH. IM SO SICK OF YOU EXCUSESSSSS. PLUS WHY I HAVE TO TALK TO HER, WHEN U THE ONE HAVE TO DO THE TALKING!! CRAP!! .. PLUS, CANT U UNDERSTAND I DONT BELIEVE BOTH OF U! HOW IF I SEND BACK 1ST AND U BOTH FORCE ME TO TAKE FAKE REPLACEMENT INSTEAD MY MONEY?? HOW?? WASTING MY TIME AND FON CREDIT SMS WITH U JUST NOW!

LOLLIPOPX AKA CHRISTY KOK, YOU DONT HAVE TO WORRY IF U WANT YOUR STOCK BACK AFTER U REFUND ME.
YG PENTING U BARE THE POSTAGE ALSO... SO REFUND ME THE BB CREAMS I BOUGHT FROM U + POSTAGE FEE + THE FAKE BB CREAMS U WANT ME TO SEND BACK.. SIMPLE AS DAT.. NO ONE STUPID HERE TO READ UR STUPID /NONSENSE EXCUSES.. I'M NOT A BAD PERSON BUT U REALLY DRIVE ME MAD WITH UR SELFISH BAD ATTITUDES!!! vmad.gif


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post Jul 5 2010, 11:40 PM

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This thread is hilarious, seriously. I know you buyers are trying to be nice but the seller is too young, scheming or trying something fishy. You already have all the relevant information, phone numbers, Pos Laju Tracking with recipient & IC number, all you need to do now is to stop wasting time and make a police report. Follow up with a court order to release information from the mobile operators and pos laju and you can practically camp in front of these people places. Take it as a lesson that your investment is lost but if the police nabs these crooks they will have a bigger price to pay. The victims would have done a public service by making sure they don't con other people in the future. It is clear she is not willing to refund after numerous attempts by kind people to knock some sense into her thick skull. Stop wasting time before they get the wiser and relocate wink.gif
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if not mistake, lollipopx this funny seller pm-ed me b4. lastime... pretended as a buyer to survey my price (as i sell must up and she's selling must up too) =.=

dear lollipopx, my advice is, just refund the money as soon as possible to others instead of wasting so many times to argue online n by phone, u even cant sleep well n rest well. Nothing's important than health. Save the time to do more research, start a new business with authentic product plus ethical etitude and u may success in the future. That's what i can advice.

And it's really no point to spend a lot of time to argue and fight. Ur image n reputation will getting worse only and it will affect ur future. A nice and responsible seller should be polite in words and apologize sincerely and try to solve it if any mistake happened but not just "find Wendy! find Wendy!" it doesnt help u any as for most of the ppl here, Wendy=lollipopx... And the reality, who's right who's wrong, only u know, god know.

For ur own good, think twice girl.

That's my 2cents. no offenced. Sorry to any parties if i said anything wrong notworthy.gif
have a nice day.
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post Jul 7 2010, 11:17 AM

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wen u wan 2 buy..u bank in 1st rite..then when u wan refund..u still da 1 need 2 send da item 1st.. doh.gif

dis seller..kinda like snake..pusing here pusing there.. sweat.gif

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post Aug 10 2010, 07:08 PM

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Last time, I bought a perfume, and it turned out it was not as what I thought it would be. But the seller is kind enough, by offering me to refund the money.
He wanted me to post the perfume back to him at Penang. I was in Kota Bharu.
So, based on trust, I sent it by Poslaju to him.

He did refund me as soon as he got the perfume back.

So, what I'm trying to say is that, since you are not going to use the stuff anymore (this BB cream is fake right?), just send it back to the seller la.
Simpan pun, no use.
She promised to refund, then she better do so. Otherwise, lodge a police report.

I trusted that guy who promised to refund me last time, he is trustworthy from the early stage of the deal. wink.gif

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post Aug 10 2010, 07:19 PM

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Forgot to mention, he deducted RM10 from the payment. I paid RM70, he refunded RM60.
Which is good enough for me since I really can't use the perfume.

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