i watched the video.. and i did notice.. the price on the table for the riding gloves... 2,100 yen.. i convert to Rm is only rm76.. LOL... not expensive eh.. and his bike look the smallest there.. dunno he paiseh or not.. LOL... at the part he go and eat TAKOYAKI wan.. there all superbike and dirt bike... LOL..

Ya hampalang there big bike XD

hey.. wanna ask something.. yesterday i do some research in youtube and google.. LOL.. on carb and block.. for port & polish.. some say according to their pantang.. polish the block is not good cause some oil tends to stick to the wall of the shiny surface..and not complete combustion..and its better to stick to unpolished wall.. ? hah..

and i finally understood how engine works.. 2 stroke and 4 stroke..

wat i can conclude is good spark plug and bigger piston + block gives more power... cause bigger space for air and oil and better sparkplug for more spark for combustion... hmm.. interesting... but wat matters is good quality of block to prevent overheating..if not good.. no use also got high power as cant bring for daily ride..

for stock block.. ppl invent the engine for lc is through careful R&D by mechanical engineer..measuring the heat produce and find a good material to overcome the heat and etc..

and yea.. bro charge.. the racing block and stuff... ppl simply create only ar...? thats why cheaper than original block...? i was wondering about this type of block..

and is bigger block produce more heat compared to stock block..? i mean cause bigger block got bigger bore ma right...? or is it the same..?

and can polish the carb bigger ar..? i mean the air flow hole for more air input..

how does 2t and 4t work..?

I planing to modi my standard LC...anyone can tell me where can i start from?

This post has been edited by Twist: Jun 27 2010, 01:58 PM

to let u know the conclusion... 2t bikes need to move one cycle inside block to move 1 round... whereas 4t bikes need to move 2 cycle inside block to move 1 round.. thats why 2t bike is twice the power of 4t..

understand..? haha..

2t block also do 2 things at once.. whereas 4t block do 1 thing at a time.. thats why 2 cycle = 1 round..

the 2 thing 1 thing is..

2 thing = fuel inject to block and combustion occur then exhaust go out at the same time....

1 thing = fuel inject to block and combustion occur.. then for another cycle.. exhaust only go out.. thats why need 2 cycle to do the job..

therefore engine is way cooler in 4t engine compared to 2t engine.. cause 2t engine have more combustion rate than a 4t bike.. hoho...

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Added on June 27, 2010, 2:50 pmthere are 2 types of modifications...

1st is outer modifications (not touching the engine)...= spark plug, power booster, chain + sprocket, front fork oil, remove air filter(make sure ur area no excessive dust, or else u will break ur carb into pieces )

2nd is engine modifications = bigger block, bigger carb, cdi and many more...

This post has been edited by Aaron135LC: Jun 27 2010, 02:50 PM

I planing to not touch the engine..but like aaron says..just those things can increase acceleration and top speed?can u tell me what is power booster and front fork oil?

yea.. haha.. power booster is like a small thing attach to ur spark plug cable connecting to ur spark plug..(increase performance by 20% and better fc.. claimed by the company like Stromberg) front fork oil is change to thicker fork oil for better handling.. stock fork oil very soft..

and also install fork stabiliser.. very good..

acceleration is air filter remove..

top speed of course must chg block already.. =)

but change cdi also good.. stock cdi is not so good... when on 3rd gear.. bring till 90 or more (lc meter) then u let go throttle and rethrottle again.. u will feel like the bike want to go and don wan to go feeling...

change cdi gives smoother graph.. stock cdi is naik bukit turun bukit graph from 3rd gear till 4th...

This post has been edited by Aaron135LC: Jun 27 2010, 03:15 PM

And what kind or brand of plug and power booster that u recommend me?i just remove the air filter can already?no nid adjust anything in the cab?and does the cab need to be service?my bike already 1 year ++still haven done any major service...feeling like my engine noise very loud edi..any idea where it came from?

for now.. Stromberg power booster for rm70 i think.. around that... and there is another brand recommended by bro Charge.. FireStorm brand.. that cost 100++

remove air filter no need adjust anything.. just gives the carb more air suction flow... air filter blocks the air from going in the carb...

so far u've been using air filter right.. i don think got a problem with ur carb... if got loud noise.. ur mileage use how much...?

My mileage already 16k+...sounds very loud..like there is no engine oil =.="..that brand u mention i think in ipoh dosent sell le..in ipoh everthing also dun have..all expensive somemore...and i planing to use ngk G-power plug..izzit good?and this plug got any diff den other plug?

wah.. ipoh... ngk good..more spark than standard plug... this one recommended by bro charge..

i havent change yet.. but other forumers here using said its good...

16k.. hmm.. if loud.. mayb u can consider go clean ur engine d.. overhaul...sometimes use long. need to overhaul... =)

This post has been edited by Aaron135LC: Jun 27 2010, 03:55 PM

Ummm... Bee Hock dont recommend us to take off air filter, he said ORI MJ and PJ is set for the bike with air filter... If u wan to take off, MJ and PJ should be changed, abo air will be more than da petrol causing it to be lean... (according to bee hock not me)

hoiyo.. but then i felt bike is better without air filter.. a slight difference.. not much.. but a bit.. =)

This post has been edited by Aaron135LC: Jun 27 2010, 06:04 PM

Both gua and calvin put it bak after came bak from bee hock XD

Haiz..in ipoh what also dun hav...wan to find a pro foreman to cheak my bike also hard...all pisau dam sharp de...somemore things in here also expensive...eh..if overhaul my engine need to cost around how much?if wan overhaul need bring back to hong leong?last time i ask them before..if nth rosak overhaul need RM600++...if block rosak need cost RM1000++...haiz...i bring back to hong leong before when my engine starts to sounds...that time my mileage around 4-5k onli...now the sound more worst..tried before alot of branded EO..still no diff..now using silkolene comp 4..nth diff...in ipoh selling RM40...sad...try all motul EO range le...except 300v and 7100...still no diff...use before Yamalube also..no diff..oil filter use ori also like that...tis kind of sickness izzit normal to LC?

some ppl simply do, some ppl really gone through R&D. but bigger power/torque definitely produce greater heat.
porting the carburetor is not recommended, unless u r a pro in carb. If the port size is bigger, but the supporting fuel system is too limited, end up the air-fuel too lean and causing overheat.


yes, he is right. to me my carburetor has too much fuel, taking off the air filter gives better result, but take out airbox will become slightly lean.

1. I think a shiny surface is NOT good if two of them are moving on top of each other, in this case block and piston. These things comes stock in matte surface one, enough micropores or mini little holes to hold on to EO and let the EO work to prevent friction. Imagine rubbing two pieces of glass against each other in water, it'll create a vacuum between them, dispersing off the water, and you get a big deal amount of friction...

2. Congrats on getting the concept of 2-cycle engines.

3. Reliability of block/piston depends on material used. Some places will take your stock block, send them to their own forge and make you a racing block. They are cheap probably because a good design is built using cheaper material? Some are expensive because of the surface treatment or post-processing like the Diasil thing.

4. Heat is good for combustion engine, but the idea is to get the right temp. Overheating is bad, and so is overcooling.

5. Charge is right, don't mess with a carb except the jets and needles.

There should be notches on the main needle. If you remove air filter, use a lower notch to balance the AF mixture.

basically polishing is useless, just for show. when carbon sticks on shiny surface, what's the difference with none polished?

u ipoh ppl ah?what sound your engine making?