Pass few months, my company overpaid my salary because they calculated wrongly and now they realize about it and now they request me to refund the overpaid salary. Do i under any obligation to pay back the overpaid salary? Please help me~

you can choose not to pay them back, but they will start to under pay you and most probably drag you pay till you are fed up and leave,

Overpaid like how much? If it's a few hundread bucks, you better pay them back to have a fine image for promotions and stuff lol

This post has been edited by [LinkZ]: Jun 7 2010, 08:59 PM

they overpaid by few hundred bucks..

dont think they will require you for a direct refund.
But they will undercut your salary for the time being.

Why do you NOT want to give back the money?

can they just cut my salary? since it is not my fault of getting overpaid, plus this company is MNC company from Japan.

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Added on June 7, 2010, 9:08 pminitially the company promise me by giving me RM100 allowance of petrol, but they didn't give me due to their own reason. hence, i don't want to give back the money because i feel like they want to rob everything from me.

This post has been edited by 60minute: Jun 7 2010, 09:08 PM

This is when your honesty is being tested. If you insist of NOT PAYING after they ask you to, you have foolishly gamble your reputation away. Continue staying in the firm won't get your anywhere. And resigning gracefully (now/future) still leaves a black mark in your resume.

I can't believe such topic are started. You're NOT a little boy anymore, need to be sounded only then "reluctantly" give up.


yeah. Why CAN'T you pay them back instead of having them forcefully takes a cut from your future salary ? The only main reason would be you have spent what you earned (or over-earned). Even WITHOUT letting your firm know (its right or wrong ) , they will assume you're someone who is not good with $$$, which yet again another big blow to your credibility ,affecting your chances in get promoted next time.

So, you passively counter-rob them. OK. Wish you all the best... Wait, I mean, wish your company all the best.

This post has been edited by zefifier: Jun 7 2010, 09:14 PM

Lol. What a question. Yourself can even answer then in 60 seconds.

You have no obligation to pay them back, but you also have no obligation to ask for a promotion/increment in years to come.

Your choice.

Better gib back ler.....abit shy to take something thats not yours rite?

My account once was credited with my colleague's salary. Without any obligation, I informed the admin and surrender the money.

I don't take whatever is not mine.

you can ask them to deduct from your future salary instead; and since it is not your pay, just return it....

Ask them to deduct the necessary amount gradually from your future salary. If they overpaid you 100 per month for 6 months, then they should deduct 100 per month for 6 months.

You shouldn't try to keep the 600 bucks, but the company should not ask you to compromise your existing cash balances by correcting in 1 day an error they took 6 months to do.

Honesty is the issue here I guess..
While you are under no obligation to return, it will affect your reputation heavily. The company won't trust you to manage anything involve money etc..
Since it's a few hundred only, why risk your reputation?

Lol this is cute ... kinda remind me of the kindergarten days ... I drop 50cents .. my fren picked up and I was like thanks .. he was like "huh? i found it so it's mine. No1 asked you to drop your money"

Your friend didn't drop the 50 cents. He put it into your pocket himself, walked away, forgot about it and then comes back a few months later, says you owe him 50 cents and he wants it back right now.

IIANM , theres a case in oversea where a guy still receiving salary from a company which he quits working ... he get the salary for 2 years by not working .. end up he need to pay back all of it ..

I don't understand why this is even a question. Give back what is not yours. Sure the agreement sucks but it is an AGREEment (you AGREEd).

If you don't agree then no Agreement no job. Go find job elsewhere if you not satisfy. Many fish in the sea.

If mispay then pay it back.

Why mess yourself up over a few hundred bucks.

Every man (woman) has a price, it looks like yours only worth a few hundred bucks.

Shame!

don't treat him/her that harsh. examine what 60min's trying to say, that the company promised to give 100 petrol allowance but later in fact nonsense, company gives nothing, and "hence, i don't want to give back the money because i feel like they want to rob everything from me.", maybe the company also trying to get back money more than what are they supposed to get.

and he/she has been working for months, so few hundred bucks maybe equal or lesser than total allowances (100/month) 60min should get.

my opinion, if u can get new job, better u move,, why bother to work to company which such unprofessional behavior,, if not and you think u can survive there, i think u should give it back.

if you can't pay them back one shot, ask them to deduct monthly on a figure which you both can agree to.

why u did not raise up when u found that they gave u extra??

Just return it la, it's not worth the fight over a couple of hundred bucks.

Easy. Look back at your employment contract. How much did they say they pay you? If they overpay you, means you have to give them back cause it clearly a "glitch". If you try to bring this to court, they will still win cause it's stated in the contract. Also for employer relation sake, I suggest you to pay it back or you will face future problem even with new company if they get hold of the news.

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Added on June 8, 2010, 2:13 pmYa but in a more serious case, a bank counter lady wrongly input an extra "0" into the account of person A. Now that person A found $$$$$$ in his/her account, took it and ran away overseas hoping they cannot trace him/her there. Unfortunately bank call interpol and he/she was caught and put in jail. Well, no one ask the guy/lady to put extra "0", but person A still goes to jail regardless for stealing.

This post has been edited by MinusGear: Jun 8 2010, 02:13 PM

It's never a bad thing to pay back.

You could also highlight to them about the allowance and because they owe you 'x' amount of allowance, you felt that there was no need to refund or pay back due to outstanding allowance that was promised.

Just ensure that your contract did state the allowance and amounting to how much per months (without special terms and conditions applied). If they insist you refund and yet not provide you your allowance, you can bring this to court in which I'm not sure if its worth your time and money because you will be looking for a new job if you went this far.

come on .. it's just few hundred bucks ...

you want your image or just a tiny bit of $ ?

Totally agree with other, as the overpaid is only a few hundreds !

If you know it in advance and paid them back before they ask, you could perhaps earn yourself more credibility !!

Thus, one's credibility are definitely worth more then a few hundreds dollar Bro

If you felt that way, why didn't you leave? Do you know there's one thing any company hates the most is dishonesty and unhappy employees. Make that two things actually.

Yes, you should pay back. Well, my company actually includes this situation in the code of conduct/ethics, any overpaid by the company should take the initiative to report to supervisor and return the exceed payment.

IMO, you should.

Exactly ... that is why everyone is asking TS to give back the money putting extra 0 is not wrong .. taking what's not yours is

As yourself, why you want that money???....
If you thing you working there waste your time, just resign and find another company..
If you think salary not enuf, find side income...
no need to counter back your company becoz of a hundred bucks..

TS>>is it enuf to pay u back for ur petrol allowance?? then dont pay back. tell them it's what they promised.

of coz it's natural for anyone to think it's their money when the co ald promised to reimburse their petrol and then find a few hundred extra.

"A good name is more desirable than great riches; to be esteemed is better than silver or gold."

Don't pay them back! Keep the money, laugh at their dumb faces!! HAHA.


btw start sending out your CV to other companies...

of cos need to pay back, wat r u thinking?? lol..

Just pay them back or throw a letter to your HR.

just few hundred nia...
pay back lo~~

wouldn't get rich one

Gain more experience and setup your own company..

trust is priceless...

Thanks everyone for the advice.

They took back the money by deducting my next salary. According the HR, they make this error every month.

Well, i'm planning to move on in the future

lol.....is ur company running HRIS system ? How come can have payroll error.....i even know there's even company with over 200 staff they can pay out salary manually with only 3 staff

definitely need to pay back.

even if you have left the company, a company can still get the bank they credited to, to debit back the amount from your account.

@60minute,
Y do they make this error every month? Isn't it a problem that should be addressed? What kinda unprofessional thing is happening?

last time my company payroll screwed up where most of the staffs are overpaid. I get 12K and some of my colleague even get RM40K but we all also pay back.

Hahahah what about overpaid severance package .. you are no longer working with the company liaoo tjey cant cut your pay etc etc.

TS, why is this even a question? if the bank accidentally credited 200k into your account, do you think you have any way to escape?

now just few hundred ringgit... just pay back lah. what is in you mind?

Don't necro a thread that's 15 years old where TS already moved on from it (probably).