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jananan
post Jul 18 2010, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 17 2010, 11:48 PM)
learned that from the movie angel and devil hahaha...
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Added on July 18, 2010, 2:43 am
QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Jul 18 2010, 01:40 AM)
i having this problem since i receive my N900, the N900 can't detect my PC via bluetooth, but the N900 can detect my N95 via bluetooth

note: N95 can dedect my PC via blutooth

any idea how to solve it?
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make sure your PC's bluetooth is set to "available" and not hidden or invisible.

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post Jul 19 2010, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 19 2010, 10:44 PM)
USB OTG no, not without extensive hardware mods. Even THEN it may very well not work.

USB HOST, however, is on the way, as soon as the HEN project gets a good kernel coder to update the kernel modules needed for hostmode to work reliably. It already works for the devs, mind you, only not consistantly.

Honestly, I'd take proper hostmode over OTG any day to begin with lol.
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OTG is sort of dumbed-down hostmode...

for dumb devices. but our n900 is far from dumb.
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post Jul 19 2010, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jul 19 2010, 11:21 PM)
means pendrive can connect to n900? tongue.gif
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not yet, they are working on it. not nokia, but the community.

in simple words, our n900 has the hardware but not the software/drivers for it
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post Jul 19 2010, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jul 19 2010, 11:31 PM)
wookay LOL~

what other epic stuff can N900 do?
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you should check out the front page, of this thread.

you should also check out talk.maemo.org


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post Jul 20 2010, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(VeilSidex @ Jul 20 2010, 10:43 AM)
anyway to disable the ambient light sensor for N900 just want the brightess to stay constant without auto adjust
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you can delve into mce... i only tried disabling keyboard light, and it works perfectly. haven't looked into screen brightness yet.


Added on July 20, 2010, 11:23 amPS : anyone tried disabling start-up scripts from event.d ?

i tried disabling about 5 items, mostly phone / sms / packet-data related stuff, because i only use it as a tablet (minus phone func) but i didnt notice any improvement in memory / cpu usage.

haven't tried looking into init.d yet.

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QUOTE(jananan @ Jul 20 2010, 11:20 AM)
you can delve into mce... i only tried disabling keyboard light, and it works perfectly. haven't looked into screen brightness yet.


Added on July 20, 2010, 11:23 amPS : anyone tried disabling start-up scripts from event.d ?

i tried disabling about 5 items, mostly phone / sms / packet-data related stuff, because i only use it as a tablet (minus phone func) but i didnt notice any improvement in memory / cpu usage.

haven't tried looking into init.d yet.
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n900 uses this instead...

http://upstart.ubuntu.com/


Added on July 20, 2010, 2:02 pmhttp://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/255538-sr71-blackbird-kernel.html

they have done it again. 1.2 Ghz. similar processor as our baby if i am not mistaken....


Added on July 20, 2010, 2:11 pmwth.... these dumb***es never heard of 3G video calling is it ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NlIiEGjC1g...player_embedded

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post Jul 20 2010, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(angelbratz @ Jul 20 2010, 08:03 PM)
Is the Router Yours???

You can disable it...if its yours.

Go to your Router and Disable Compliance Setup.

Kau tim...

Refer this...

user posted image
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i am just using mac filtering with the SSID i use with n900, faster connection start-up. cos i always connect and disconnect. WEP/WAP/WAP2 just makes it slower...

who wanna capture my packet go ahead la...
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post Jul 20 2010, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Jul 20 2010, 09:29 PM)
where is V4????
gone???
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V4 was exterminated...
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post Jul 21 2010, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Jul 21 2010, 02:08 AM)
i have tons of old nokia charger (2mm and 3mm) laying around do nothing....i have two house and offen outstation....but only one microUSB charger that why this converter handy

BTW who willing to sell the CA-146C converter, i able to pay RM20 plus (nego)
is hassle for me buying from ebay sweat.gif
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most 2mm and 3mm charger is below 800mA rating. for e.g. a 2mm 500mA charger will take forever to charge your n900.
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post Jul 21 2010, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 21 2010, 11:15 AM)
Well, thing is, I was surfing the net. As always, it was lagging a bit so I restarted.

Then kapoof, it died and just refused to restart, no matter what I did. Reflash, R&D mode. I guess I'm one of the FIRST guys to FRY the CPU then...

Even greater shame is that I was SURE it would last me a good couple of years. Looks like I was wrong.

Anyhow, any chance Nokia Care would repair an out of warranty N900 - AP set summore - with payment? Or do I have to wait for an 3G version of the EPIC 4G...

Well, back to my old W810i then, for now, though it has been dead for a loooooooooooooooooooong time nowadays.

Now, where's the charger...
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charge up your battery in another phone, or use a freshly charged BL-5J. try flashing with that.

what the n900 does is a semi boot before it starts charging. if the battery is too low, you wont be able to flash.

or try leaving it connected to the charger for a while - like 20-30 minutes before trying to flash.

because connecting to usb locks the dev @ 500Mhz and it might use more power than what the usb supplies while connected to PC.

it might not be enough to flash.

give it a try, it might work.
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post Jul 21 2010, 12:22 PM

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even though some articles / posts say that the n900 can charge from completely dead, without booting the OS, i find it somewhat hard to believe. because it acts funny when charging a dead n900, even with the original charger.

it receives charges, suddenly stops, then unplug-replug charges again. keeps doing this sometimes when u charge a completely dead phone.

it does not do this when you charge to a certain level and boot up the phone and leave it in desktop. it plays nice when the charger is connected when its on the hildon-desktop.

funny.


Added on July 21, 2010, 12:25 pm
QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 21 2010, 12:21 PM)
Will do.
Well, it starts fine UP to the boot loading indicator, which sticks in an endless loop. Something tells me the either RootFS or the eMMC (or both) might have permanently corrupted bad sectors. CPU seems fine though.

Oh well, I'd say we're looking at a full motherboard replacement at least.

And no, device was NOT hot at all, and DID not show any CPU-OC related artefacts AT ALL. Which leads me to believe that the RootFS/eMMC simply died.

Though it COULD be reflashed, which is strange. Will try reflashing RootFS+eMMC later. Will be losing a lot of important data though.
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haha...

just wait... i've had the boot loading indicator which is " . . . . " running for a solid 5 minutes one time when it crashed running very low voltage. i just left it there... and it still went to desktop...

its running a forced fsck on the whole damn thing, trust me. fsck is something like chkdsk, same thing when u did not shutdown your windows properly...

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post Jul 21 2010, 12:28 PM

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i think i was running at least 3 browser windows, some with flash some now. conky was running in background and angry birds minimized.

maximum stress u can guess. and my 750:42,430 did not hold it in... *poof* rebooted...

next thing, the loading ". . . ." ran for 5 minutes. and then went to desktop.


Added on July 21, 2010, 12:28 pm
QUOTE(chicaman @ Jul 21 2010, 12:27 PM)
Is it important to install OpenSSH if we want to access and modify t he system data? any alternative?
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easier with ssh and winscp if you want to see the "rest" of the filesystem from windows. without that you can only see the "home/mydocs" folder...

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post Jul 21 2010, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 21 2010, 12:30 PM)
Will do, I'm thinking it's fsck-ing as well. Worse comes to worst will reflash eMMC and see how - if nothing off to the nearest Nokia Center (which is a good 2 hours away by bus darnit).

It's completely fscking my day up real good though... sweat.gif
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i've seen strange things with low voltage.

files getting corrupted. sometimes i've got some text file open, and contents from some other files, for example microb preferences files ends up inside the text file i was viewing.

i had microb open but not the microb prefs file.

so whatever is loaded in memory, it just dumps to whatever files are still open and does a reboot...

they have to fix this and let it dump memory contents to a dump file when crashing, like windows. rather than mixing up all the data...


Added on July 21, 2010, 12:45 pm
QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Jul 21 2010, 12:39 PM)
few hour ago i pull out the memory card(SanDisk MicroSD-HC, 4GB) from my N95 and put in to N900.....don't know why N900 can't load any data (music, video and picture)from the memory card!!
the memory card work fine in N95
any idea why?
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the tracker process not indexing memory card contents. might need a reboot. and connect to charger first and reboot. if still cannot, open up tracker-cfg file and enable indexing on external media...

cant remember the exact line... but there is such an option...

i totally disabled all indexing on internal and external media. indexing is something you dont run on mobile devices... even on desktops... vista and windows 7 indexing slows down the machine and hogs i/o ... unless you got a spanking new i7...


Added on July 21, 2010, 12:53 pmif i am not mistaken, flasher-3.5 will see the entire n900 internal memory as a drive, so whether contents there is corrupted or not... you can still flash it...

unless of course overclocking really bricked your device, which i think not since you can still get to the ". . . ." loading screen...

a bricked device will remain blank, you can just barely see the backlight on the display and thats it. nothing at all... blank.

anyway, the n900 has some scripts running to push down the clock Mhz when the temperature reaches certain level. i have seen the config file somewhere but i cant remember where... so its kinda very very impossible to totally brick it...

those ppl at pre central, palm pre that is... have a new kernel... 1.2Ghz. same processor as our n900.

even if something locks the processor at 1150Mhz which is max for the OC kernel, if its running on the battery, the battery will run out first before there is permanent damage on the processor.

unless of course you hook it up to the charger, and some process locks it at 1150Mhz and you leave it on charger for 2 days charging...

haha... u might smell something burning then...


Added on July 21, 2010, 12:55 pmeven then, i have seen some config in one of the files... can't remember as well... that reboots the system when some process locks the processor for a long time...

so its kinda hard to burn it completely by overclocking...

PS : i have to keep track of the changes i make to my n900. now if i had to reflash it, i would not remember what i changed...


Added on July 21, 2010, 1:29 pmwhat the...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b-aoZNv-q0...player_embedded

Steve just can't stop... can he ?

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post Jul 21 2010, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 21 2010, 01:51 PM)
Lol... Software damage yeah, but this is some fscking hardcore damage we're talking about here lol.

Update on the reflash, eMMC reflash cannot be done simply because it NEVER gets into eMMC flash mode. Which would effectively mean that the eMMC is dead. For good.

Which is not good really.

So, CPU is fine, GPU should be fine, rootFS looks OK and eMMC is dead... Ugh, haveta go on the next bus to kl then.
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dont use the -R when flashing fiasco. meaning dont reboot between fiasco flash and emmc flash.

flasher-3.5 -F <fiasco-image> -f -R

just take out the last -R

then continue flash the eMMC as usual. this will prevent a reboot in between.
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post Jul 21 2010, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 21 2010, 02:33 PM)
Did that already.

Three times.

But to flash eMMC, the Flasher needs to start the phone to a point where it can mount the eMMC to be flashed. This is where it fails as the Flasher NEVER detects the eMMC, at all.

All three times. The phone seems to not be able to detect it either, thus sticking at the loading indicator (endless fsck).

Guess it's confirmed then, I'm the proud owner of the first fully and irreversibly bricked Malaysian N900. Now let's see if NCC can help with that. Anybody know NCC office hours are like how?
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look at this

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Mae...ing/td-p/678373


Added on July 21, 2010, 2:45 pmhave you dropped or knocked your n900 really hard ? eMMC dislodged ?

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post Jul 21 2010, 02:46 PM

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or you can try this if you think its the eMMC dislodged

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f148/n900-...olution-986005/


Added on July 21, 2010, 2:48 pm
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 21 2010, 02:46 PM)
Yea can u tell the diffrerence between 65K colour and 16millions colour. I cant can you? Nothing is perfect. For me battery life is alittle turn off but since i have a nokia 5800XM they both share the same battery so i switch between them.

For more reviews refer to frontpage
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you can see "banding" on photos and graphics with smooth color transition...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_banding


Added on July 21, 2010, 2:57 pmafter flashing fiasco without -R, disconnect the usb cable and try this

flasher-3.5.exe -i

remove the battery, put battery back in, plug in USB cable

see if it detects...

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post Jul 21 2010, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 21 2010, 02:33 PM)
Did that already.

Three times.

But to flash eMMC, the Flasher needs to start the phone to a point where it can mount the eMMC to be flashed. This is where it fails as the Flasher NEVER detects the eMMC, at all.

All three times. The phone seems to not be able to detect it either, thus sticking at the loading indicator (endless fsck).

Guess it's confirmed then, I'm the proud owner of the first fully and irreversibly bricked Malaysian N900. Now let's see if NCC can help with that. Anybody know NCC office hours are like how?
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after flashing fiasco without -R, disconnect the usb cable and try this

run this command first, with the phone disconnected

flasher-3.5.exe -i

remove the battery, put battery back in, plug in back to the computer

see if it automatically detects... (flasher-3.5.exe -i causes it to wait for usb connectivity)

you might need to close the flasher app, using Ctrl+C to go back to dos prompt

if it had detected in the previous command, then flash the eMMC image using normal method

because if it detects the phone so that you can flash fiasco, then it should allow you to flash your eMMC as well.

as long the eMMC is not really damaged/dislodged that is...


Added on July 21, 2010, 3:09 pm
QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 21 2010, 03:01 PM)
so how bad is the batt lifespan by average? 1 day? blush.gif
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depends on what you do and how often you do it. for me...

continously online using wifi - maybe 3 - 4 hours on a full battery and 2 bars brightness.

online with flash heavy sites and youtube - maybe 2-3 hours only.

just using to play mp3 - more than 8 -12 hours, with the screen not activated of course

using a normal phone - without connecting to wifi/3G - can last more than a day of course...

if very less calls and sms and just left on standby most of the time - 2 days or more...

if heavy calls and sms - without wifi/3G - 7-8 hours usually

* results may vary...

but now i am using it a tablet only, no sim card inside... can last much longer...
(but not much different when i am online using wifi of course)


Added on July 21, 2010, 3:15 pmor try NSU (Nokia Software Updater)... it has an option to re-install firmware for the n900...

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