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ginolo
post Jun 3 2010, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(availyboy @ Jun 3 2010, 02:45 PM)
Anyone here mind to give some ideas?

Should i get Nikon Speedlight SB600 or SB900 for my D90..
not sure which to get..price oso kinda big diff yeah 1 SB900 = 2SB600 xD
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Hmm, i heard from one of my sifu saying that you should buy the best flash with your money ability. If you have the budget, just go for the better one. Not sure whether what he said is true or what. My first flash is Nissin Di622, have no budget to go for 580ex2 so just stay with nissin first.
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post Jun 3 2010, 03:12 PM

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Good to find a thread like this biggrin.gif although there's a separate thread on strobist, this one is more general.

anyway, i got a few CLS shots, need some C&C. just started trying, so still beginner on how to setup, position the flash and everything.

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post Jun 3 2010, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Jun 3 2010, 03:12 PM)
Good to find a thread like this biggrin.gif although there's a separate thread on strobist, this one is more general.

anyway, i got a few CLS shots, need some C&C. just started trying, so still beginner on how to setup, position the flash and everything.

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Are these 3 pictures taken using boucned flash ?

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post Jun 3 2010, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Jun 3 2010, 03:13 PM)
Are these 3 pictures taken using boucned flash ?
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they're taken using Nikon's CLS, using D80 built-in flash as commander mode, controlling 1 SB-600 fired from the ground level towards the subject and 1 Nissin di466 with lambency from the top, like a giant spotlight biggrin.gif
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post Jun 3 2010, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Jun 3 2010, 03:17 PM)
they're taken using Nikon's CLS, using D80 built-in flash as commander mode, controlling 1 SB-600 fired from the ground level towards the subject and 1 Nissin di466 with lambency from the top, like a giant spotlight biggrin.gif
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I see, cool... biggrin.gif

Since there's a thread about flash, don't mind if I ask something. biggrin.gif
Can I place my external flash just beside the camera if I wanna use slave mode ?

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post Jun 3 2010, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Jun 3 2010, 03:19 PM)
I see, cool...  biggrin.gif

Since there's a thread about flash, don't mind if I ask something.  biggrin.gif
Can I place my external flash just beside the camera if I wanna use slave mode ?
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you wanna fire your flash wirelessly? you'll need a D80/90 at least cause it has commander mode. or else, you have to get a 3rd party wireless flash trigger.
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post Jun 3 2010, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Jun 3 2010, 03:23 PM)
you wanna fire your flash wirelessly? you'll need a D80/90 at least cause it has commander mode. or else, you have to get a 3rd party wireless flash trigger.
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Picture 2 looks too white for me. But 1 and 3 is awesome! yea, many china trigger can do it too.
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post Jun 3 2010, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(ginolo @ Jun 3 2010, 03:27 PM)
Picture 2 looks too white for me. But 1 and 3 is awesome! yea, many china trigger can do it too.
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thanks, lol i thought the 1st one is too bright/white, especially at the bottom part of the plate cause the flash is directed there.
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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Jun 3 2010, 03:33 PM)
thanks, lol i thought the 1st one is too bright/white, especially at the bottom part of the plate cause the flash is directed there.
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i like your 3rd picture. picture 1 and 2 does not bring out the appeal of the food... just my noobie comment. rclxms.gif

and what is 'slave' actually? blush.gif
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post Jun 3 2010, 04:00 PM

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somehow mean the 2nd flash (or trigger wirelessly in term of alpha)
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post Jun 3 2010, 04:12 PM

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it works as a trigger la? owh ok ok.. got it.
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post Jun 3 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(ginolo @ Jun 3 2010, 03:11 PM)
Hmm, i heard from one of my sifu saying that you should buy the best flash with your money ability. If you have the budget, just go for the better one. Not sure whether what he said is true or what. My first flash is Nissin Di622, have no budget to go for 580ex2 so just stay with nissin first.
bleh, i prefer buy what you need, not what you can afford.

Di622 ok what. you can buy a few of them and optically trigger.

why do you need 580EX II when 430EX II can do the job?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 3 2010, 04:17 PM)
bleh, i prefer buy what you need, not what you can afford.

Di622 ok what. you can buy a few of them and optically trigger.

why do you need 580EX II when 430EX II can do the job?
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i agree here. if a cheaper albeit weaker flash suffices, why spend alot more for something which u dont necessarily need?
save the extra cash and when u NEED something else, go get it tiger. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Jun 3 2010, 03:12 PM)
Good to find a thread like this biggrin.gif although there's a separate thread on strobist, this one is more general.
1st your composition needs working

2nd shooting food, you can point the flash to the behind the food, towards the sides perhaps. let it bounce to create highlights.

studio shoot food and restaurant shoot food uses same concept but at restaurant is a lot more challenging, i don't use flash........... even till today. cos flash annoy the crap out of people in restaurant, and draw too much attention. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jun 3 2010, 04:19 PM)
i agree here. if a cheaper albeit weaker flash suffices, why spend alot more for something which u dont necessarily need?
save the extra cash and when u NEED something else, go get it tiger.  laugh.gif
you Sony user, so you would be aware how bright can the F42 light the area at full power. biggrin.gif

same goes to Nikon SB600 and Canon 430EX II.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 3 2010, 04:19 PM)
1st your composition needs working

2nd shooting food, you can point the flash to the behind the food, towards the sides perhaps. let it bounce to create highlights.

studio shoot food and restaurant shoot food uses same concept but at restaurant is a lot more challenging, i don't use flash........... even till today. cos flash annoy the crap out of people in restaurant, and draw too much attention. biggrin.gif

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so what do u use for lighting? the internal flash itself or from the lights in the restaurant itself?
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post Jun 3 2010, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 3 2010, 04:19 PM)
1st your composition needs working

2nd shooting food, you can point the flash to the behind the food, towards the sides perhaps. let it bounce to create highlights.

studio shoot food and restaurant shoot food uses same concept but at restaurant is a lot more challenging, i don't use flash........... even till today. cos flash annoy the crap out of people in restaurant, and draw too much attention. biggrin.gif


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you Sony user, so you would be aware how bright can the F42 light the area at full power. biggrin.gif

same goes to Nikon SB600 and Canon 430EX II.
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those were taken at home, so nobody to annoy don't worry hehehe.

point the flash towards the sides? as in point it away from the food ah?
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jun 3 2010, 04:21 PM)
so what do u use for lighting? the internal flash itself or from the lights in the restaurant itself?
i use natural and man-made lights. biggrin.gif

should've come to my talk that day, i covered a bit.

i know i will get annoyed if a bunch of people firing their flash away in restaurant, get more flash bang than playing COD : MW2. so since i don't like it, i don't do to others.

you know la if you order 3 dishes, easily you take at least 5 shots for the food. since use flash, 1st one to see the out come, the rest to tune.

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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Jun 3 2010, 04:22 PM)
those were taken at home, so nobody to annoy don't worry hehehe.

point the flash towards the sides? as in point it away from the food ah?
yes, point it away from the food.

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this is a shot that's not PPed at all, other than resize and watermark.

I used 2 flash for this (actually 1 is enough la), just 1 on each side pointing upwards to white ceiling.

as you can the shot lacks highlights cos the lights come from the top.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 3 2010, 04:27 PM)
i use natural and man-made lights. biggrin.gif

should've come to my talk that day, i covered a bit.

i know i will get annoyed if a bunch of people firing their flash away in restaurant, get more flash bang than playing COD : MW2. so since i don't like it, i don't do to others.

you know la if you order 3 dishes, easily you take at least 5 shots for the food. since use flash, 1st one to see the out come, the rest to tune.

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yes, point it away from the food.

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this is a shot that's not PPed at all, other than resize and watermark.

I used 2 flash for this (actually 1 is enough la), just 1 on each side pointing upwards to white ceiling.

as you can the shot lacks highlights cos the lights come from the top.
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ooh ok, will try pointing upwards/sideways then thanks biggrin.gif. can't do it in restaurant though, now i know why you don't use flash at restaurants.
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post Jun 3 2010, 04:36 PM

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Was that photo taken in a studio or restaurant? Is the white background the table or white backdrop?
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jun 3 2010, 04:36 PM)
Was that photo taken in a studio or restaurant? Is the white background the table or white backdrop?
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