noob question bro..
does lat pulldown and hs pulldown target into different part?
Dan's training (rehab) log, Note to self: Stop getting injured.
Dan's training (rehab) log, Note to self: Stop getting injured.
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Jun 8 2012, 11:51 AM
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noob question bro..
does lat pulldown and hs pulldown target into different part? |
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Jun 8 2012, 02:58 PM
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HS stands for hammer strength, which is basically a plate loaded machine. It's just another variation of pulldowns. The difference would probably be I get a better stretch at the top since I use an underhand grip.
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Jun 8 2012, 06:03 PM
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8/6/2012
Legs Front squats (speed work) 6 x 3 x 65kg Hack squats 3 x 12 x 110kg Leg press 1 x 15 x 260kg 1 x 15 x 280kg Leg extensions 2 x 20/19 x 75kg 1 x 19 x 70kg Hyperextensions 3 x 12 x BW+15kg plate DB lunges 2 x 15/13 x 35lbs Leg curls 2 x 20 x 70kg Leg press machine calf raises 4 x 15/15/14/13 x 200kg Seated calf raises 3 x 18/16/17 x 35kg Been trying to really dial in my nutrition so I recovered better than expected from the lower body power day. Today was good. |
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Jun 9 2012, 12:40 AM
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I'm impressed that your leg curls are about the same weight as your leg extensions. My leg extensions are way heavier than my leg curls. Any tips on how to narrow the gap?
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Jun 9 2012, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 9 2012, 12:40 AM) I'm impressed that your leg curls are about the same weight as your leg extensions. My leg extensions are way heavier than my leg curls. Any tips on how to narrow the gap? In Layne Norton's article for the PHAT routine he mentioned different people being either more quad or hamstring dominant. So I guess you're leaning to the quad dominant side. IINM, the only real way to even things out would be to strengthen your hams. Stuff like variations of deadlifts (regular/stiff-legged/Romanian), lunges, Bulgarian split squats, hip-thrusts are some of the things I can picture off the top of my head at the moment. But that's only what I think, haha. |
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Jun 9 2012, 01:42 PM
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9/6/2012
Chest & arms Flat BB bench (speed work) 1 x warmup x empty bar 1 x warmup x 40kg 6 x 3 x 60kg Incline DB bench press 1 x 12 x 65lbs 1 x 12 x 70lbs 1 x 9 x 75lbs HS incline press 1 x 13 x 35kg 1 x 9 x 35kg (went to failure too quickly, thus the loss of strength on this set) 1 x 13 x 30kg Incline DB flyes 2 x 15 x 35lbs Preacher curls 3 x 12 x EZ bar+20kg Concentration curls 2 x 12 x 25lbs Spider curls 2 x 15 x 20lbs Overhead DB extensions (much better than using a bar, personally) 1 x 15 x 25lbs 1 x 13 x 30lbs 1 x 14 x 25lbs Cable triceps pushdowns 2 x 13/11 x 81kg Alternate arm cable triceps pulldowns 2 x 12 x 17kg Burnout set: cable triceps pushdowns 41kg x 20 Felt fantastic today, not sure why but I'm not complaining! |
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Jun 11 2012, 04:35 PM
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11/6/2012
Upper body power Chest supported rows 1 x warmup x empty bar 1 x warmup x 20kg 1 x warmup x 40kg 3 x 5 x 62.5kg Weighted pull ups 2 x 8 x BW+15kg Lat pulldowns 2 x 8 x 80kg Flat BB bench press 3 x 6 x 90kg DB flyes 2 x 7 x 50lbs Seated DB shoulder press 3 x 8/8/6 x 65lbs EZ bar curls 3 x 9/8/8 x bar+40kg CGBP 1 x 7 x 85kg 1 x 4 x 85kg 1 x 6 x 80kg Good workout. |
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Jun 12 2012, 04:22 PM
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12/6/2012
Lower body power Front squats 2 x warmup x empty bar 1 x warmup x 60kg 1 x warmup x 80kg 3 x 6/6/7 x 100kg Hack squats 1 x 9 x 130kg 1 x 9 x 135kg Leg extensions 2 x 13/12 x 90kg DB lunges 3 x 9/8/8 x 55lbs Leg curls 2 x 11/10 x 90kg Standing calf raises 1 x 12 x 130kg 1 x 14 x 135kg 1 x 11 x 140kg Seated calf raises 2 x 9/8 x 70kg |
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Jun 12 2012, 11:33 PM
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Hey -Dan, started PHAT yet? It seems so but if you are on PHAT, why did you swap front squat with back squat? And no Stiff legged Deads?
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Jun 12 2012, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 12 2012, 11:33 PM) Hey -Dan, started PHAT yet? It seems so but if you are on PHAT, why did you swap front squat with back squat? And no Stiff legged Deads? Did that to protect my lower back since I injured it about 2 years ago. 2 slipped discs if you're wondering. I find front squats to be good as they don't aggravate my back at all. No stiff legged deads for the same reason. I can still handle regular deadlifts, though I'm reluctant to, but stiff legged ones just put way too much strain on my back. It's also why I'm doing chest supported rows instead of regular barbell rows, to take my lower back out of the equation. |
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Jun 12 2012, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 12 2012, 11:37 PM) Did that to protect my lower back since I injured it about 2 years ago. 2 slipped discs if you're wondering. I find front squats to be good as they don't aggravate my back at all. No stiff legged deads for the same reason. I can still handle regular deadlifts, though I'm reluctant to, but stiff legged ones just put way too much strain on my back. It's also why I'm doing chest supported rows instead of regular barbell rows, to take my lower back out of the equation. Wow, it is hard when you have injuries being not be able to do those exercises. Mind if you tell me how you slipped your disc? |
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Jun 12 2012, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 12 2012, 11:40 PM) Wow, it is hard when you have injuries being not be able to do those exercises. Mind if you tell me how you slipped your disc? Not really, TBH. Right now I'm pretty much pain free. I'm only being very meticulous with my exercise choices as a precautionary measure. I could do the exercises, but it's not worth the risk if you know what I'm saying. Injured my back from deadlifting too much with very bad form back when I was just starting out and let ego take over, and also from a serious fall while playing football. They both happened about 2/3 months apart, but both did damage. My theory is the deadlifts made the crack in the glass, and the fall finished the job. |
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Jun 13 2012, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 12 2012, 11:57 PM) Not really, TBH. Right now I'm pretty much pain free. I'm only being very meticulous with my exercise choices as a precautionary measure. I could do the exercises, but it's not worth the risk if you know what I'm saying. Injured my back from deadlifting too much with very bad form back when I was just starting out and let ego take over, and also from a serious fall while playing football. They both happened about 2/3 months apart, but both did damage. My theory is the deadlifts made the crack in the glass, and the fall finished the job. Hopefully I won't be suffering any major injury during my weightlifting years. Trying to learn as much as I can to avoid injury. Luckily I'm not the ego kind of type but accident happen right? Before I started weightlifting, I had a knee injury, a first major injury within 22 years of life and I was damn afraid of living my whole life with knee pain. Btw -Dan, heard that it is expensive for treating slipped disc injury right? |
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Jun 13 2012, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 13 2012, 12:04 AM) Hopefully I won't be suffering any major injury during my weightlifting years. Trying to learn as much as I can to avoid injury. Luckily I'm not the ego kind of type but accident happen right? Before I started weightlifting, I had a knee injury, a first major injury within 22 years of life and I was damn afraid of living my whole life with knee pain. My biggest fear when I got injured was not being able to do any sports ever again. We just gotta do what we can to prevent injuries. And yeah, it's pretty damn expensive. :/Btw -Dan, heard that it is expensive for treating slipped disc injury right? |
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Jun 13 2012, 08:30 PM
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Wow Dan, just wow. The last I checked you were waaaay smaller than what you are now. That was bout 2 years back though. Awesome improvement. Keep it up!
Are those guns already hitting the 16" mark? |
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Jun 13 2012, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Jun 13 2012, 08:30 PM) Wow Dan, just wow. The last I checked you were waaaay smaller than what you are now. That was bout 2 years back though. Awesome improvement. Keep it up! Haha, thanks man! Yeah, I was pretty darn skinny! Not just yet, they're just a little under 16" cold. Left arm's a little smaller than the right, though, heh.Are those guns already hitting the 16" mark? |
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Jun 14 2012, 06:26 PM
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14/6/2012
Back & shoulders Chest supported rows (speed work) 2 x warmup x empty bar 1 x warmup x 20kg 6 x 3 x 42.5kg Lat pulldowns 3 x 12 x 70kg Seated cable rows 3 x 13 x 65kg DB rows 2 x 15/14 x 105lbs HS pulldowns (pps) 2 x 15 x 25kg Seated DB shoulder press 3 x 13/12/12 x 55lbs Upright rows 2 x 15/14 x EZ bar+40kg Single arm DB lateral raises 3 x 16/15/15 x 25lbs |
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Jun 15 2012, 05:01 PM
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15/6/2012
Legs Front squats (speed work) 2 x warmup x empty bar 1 x warmup x 40kg 6 x 3 x 65kg Hack squats 1 x 13 x 110kg 1 x 12 x 120kg 1 x 12 x 125kg Leg press 1 x 15 x 280kg 1 x 15 x 290kg Leg extensions 3 x 20/20/19 x 75kg Hyperextensions 3 x 12 x BW+15kg DB lunges 2 x 14/15 x 40lbs Leg curls 2 x 21/18 x 75kg Leg press machine calf raises 1 x 15 x 200kg 3 x 15/13/15 x 220kg Seated calf raises 3 x 18/18/17 x 40kg Hanging knee raises (just some random ab work) 3 x 27/23/14 |
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Jun 16 2012, 05:08 PM
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16/6/2012
Chest & arms Flat BB bench press (speed work) 6 x 3 x 65kg Incline DB bench 1 x 12 x 65lbs 1 x 12 x 70lbs 1 x 9 x 75lbs Incline HS press 1 x 12 x 35kg 2 x 12 x 32.5kg Incline DB flyes 2 x 15/14 x 40lbs Preacher curls 3 x 12 x EZ bar+20kg Concentration curls 2 x 10/12 x 25lbs Cable curls (incline bench was occupied so no spider curls) 1 x 12 x 41kg 1 x 15 x 36kg Overhead DB extensions 1 x 17 x 25lbs 2 x 15/13 x 30lbs Cable triceps pushdowns 2 x 15/12 x 81kg Single arm cable triceps pulldowns 2 x 13/12 x 17kg This post has been edited by -Dan: Jun 16 2012, 10:53 PM |
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Jun 16 2012, 10:13 PM
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Slacker, wtf is up with the flat benching haha!
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