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 Engine Oil Reviews, What engine oil have u used so far

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post Jan 4 2012, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(MentalSlug @ Jan 2 2012, 09:28 AM)
Hi, i want to ask why liqui moly 10-30 is rm10 cheaper than 10-40? Does 10-40 got anything xtra?
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xw40 is thicker than 30, so prolly cost a lil more. considering if they're basically using the same compounds/additives etc.

other than that, no difference. 30 or 40 is up to your preference/car recommended usage
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post Jan 5 2012, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 4 2012, 02:15 PM)
But RM289 for the engine oil is kind of hefty.....
You can get a lot cheaper fully synthethic oils out there
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you get what you pay for.

and really, its all about personal preference here. some prefer to get expensive oil, more mileage then OCI, or get cheaper oil, and more frequent OCI.
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post Jan 5 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Jan 5 2012, 08:25 PM)
That is their thinking, but actually whether expensive or cheap same OCI, unless stated extended use, or long chain interval. These are usually sold in the states.
If engine uses more oil like those using 5L or 6L, can also prolong the use.....
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well, some examples:

good semi syn, lets say liqui moly, rm118 ya.
even over 5k/6k, engine performance never drop, never consume engine oil, as if nothing happened.

cheaper semi syn say, rm70
3-4k engine already feel like shit. usually consume oil a bit, worse case 1/4 amount.

so yeah, for the most part, you really get what you pay for. and yes, if the oil isnt meant for prolonged use (especially the specs written, regardless of advertisement/marketing), please do not prolong use it as well smile.gif
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post Jan 6 2012, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Jan 6 2012, 05:25 PM)
i until 10k. using lm semi syn,, engine still feeel ok...
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recommended if still keep it under 5-7k la. carbon is still carbon, and engine oil is still engine oil, not a miracle liquid wink.gif
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post Jan 7 2012, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Jan 7 2012, 10:45 AM)
this part yg aku suka dispute.. but thing is , nowdays,, susah nak carik proof to what i say... ever since i got my proton gen2 running on vanilla campro. my oci has been 10k. my argument is this :
a) if i remember correctly, the campro engine was originally designed for 10k oci running on proton's recomended oil. the oci was one of the features that proton was harping about when they first launched the engine.
b) when i first got the car, i remember reading in one of the books ( either service manual or owners manual) that the service interval after the first 10k is 10k. only after a year or so, the newer reprints of the books they switch back to the 5k service interval
c) if am not mistaken the lm mos2 10-40 is rated bmw longlife98 which gives a longer than usual oci rite ?
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a) that one not sure, however proton... yea lol
b) i can somewhat see WHY the switching back heh
c) AFAIK yea, however carbon build up may still be an issue.

again, really personal preference here, what i merely was recommend. as i said, carbon build up may still be an issue, and lm oils arent cheap, if "rich", shorter OCI lo, else, go longer lo
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post Jan 8 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Jan 8 2012, 01:55 PM)
Hi Elton,
Not to correct you but share info. As far as I know brake fluid is hydroscopic, but not engine oil. When you run the engine but do not bring it up to working temperature, like short distance town uses, then the water vapor is not vaporizes, so it condenses and form water that mixes in on a long run.
That is why using the engine in short runs, it is better to have OCI more often, not longer...... tongue.gif
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maybe why when i use good oils like lm for example, despite over 5k, the engine performance is still not much (if any) difference, even after oil change.

on the contrary, mixing crappy SS hi-rev oil into it reduces the performance so damn much doh.gif doh.gif
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post Jan 9 2012, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Jan 9 2012, 07:39 AM)
Why did you mix different oil in?
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leftovers, forgot last time i asked on this sub-forum? everyone including you said ok wat. it really is ok, cept shit performance lol
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post Jan 9 2012, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Jan 9 2012, 06:50 PM)
Could be due to your Hi-Rev oil. The ones I mixed in, no difference. Difference oil brand and viscosity also......mine due to topping up, as my engine does consume some oil as every day also 5k rpm.....  blush.gif
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obviously due to the hi-rev lol. mine in a sense, minor top up la. since yea, i high rev also LOL!

well, ill prolly do it again at the last few hundred km to OCI or the last petrol pump to OCI, top a bit consider it to flush out carbon (i guess something like pouring in water in engine to wash out carbon? cept pouring water = instant engine death so pour oil LOL!)

since id rather not use lambda primer/other flush while me LM ceratec is still in good effect (says 50k km, ill evaluate around 40k km i guess)
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post Jan 11 2012, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Jan 10 2012, 07:32 AM)
Top up only, also so much effect? I thought you mix in the sense, mix 2 types to use..... biggrin.gif
If use chemical flush probably whatever you have inside will be flushed out.
You can also do a light viscosity oil flush, means change the oil to a light 20 or 30 weight oil run for a while then drain, before putting in new oil.....
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thanks for the tip bro!

maybe can buy some really dang cheap super light viscosity oil (would mineral or full syn (not ss basically) instead of ss be ok? lol)
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post Jan 11 2012, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Jan 11 2012, 10:08 AM)
What is the recommended OCI. If 5k km then better stick to it.
I don't recommend longer intervals with FS, but not much savings since the oil is more expensive.
I think better change at 5k km for cleaner engine....


Added on January 11, 2012, 10:20 am
FS will be expensive. Normally they use mineral mono grade light viscosity to flush.....
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mono grade?

and yea, i guess it is ok to just use cheap mineral oil for flushing. any light viscosity mineral oil to recommend? xw20/xw30 preferably? (lighter than my current 10-40)
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post Jan 11 2012, 04:56 PM

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any specific brands? go tesco find some cheap ones and get those? lol
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post Jan 12 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Jan 12 2012, 08:44 AM)
hahahahaha.. he will give his 2012 calender with sexy pose.. damn.. lol.
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i bought so much from him and tarak pun cry.gif
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post Jan 15 2012, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jan 15 2012, 12:52 AM)
Wanna try out too but too bad doesn't have the gut to buy.  sweat.gif
Just change my Liqui Moly 10w40 to Liqui Moly 10w30 with half bottle of Tufoil, it's more slippery than KY jelly.  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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didnt try ceratec? lol
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post Jan 15 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jan 15 2012, 01:36 AM)
Why dont you try first?  tongue.gif
that's too expensive for me. you tried before? how's it?
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i've put a review on elton's thread. really good for people high revving since the engine noise is not harsh at all. if you smooth/slow driving/light footed, maybe no need la since not that much difference if you're ALREADY using liqui moly oils.
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post Jan 19 2012, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Jan 18 2012, 11:22 PM)
hey guys... i wanna ask...

now im looking at Q8 plus 15W40 since the price is a bit affordable...
but now the problem is i dont know where to find it in kajang/bangi area...
and i only encountered Sumo R4 5W30 for K-Cars and the price around RM110.

now my problem is my car is Kancil EX880 2001 and i prefer mineral oil than semi/fully synthetic.... 

so my question is...

1. is Q8 plus 15W40 really good for my engine and worth my trouble to go to sunway (which i could think the nearest place to buy the oil)

2. what about Sumo R4 5W40?

3. what other mineral oil that you guys could recommend for me? around RM100 and below but if really good wont mind going up a bit...

thanks in advance and sorry if this is the wrong thread....
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and i really suggest Liqui moly/torco (my car on LM, sentra on Torco) over Q8 tongue.gif

either oil i could help you carry and pass on the next tt/arrangement
lm i can take from elton, torco i can take from my nearby mech shop, or if you think expensive then can buy from lyn seller here who sells cheaper

1) not much comment for Q8, lm/torco beats it on specs/brand, id rather stick to those. that said, Q8 and torco under same malaysian distributor. if you ask about those 2 instead, id say yes.

2) no comment

3) none. ss/fs better so long you can stretch the budget, by like rm20 LOL. and imho, your car stick to ss enough, my car is year 1999 somemore and i sayang it with semi syn liqui moly wink.gif
and yes, lm ~rm11x while torco 11x-12x
for your car xw30 is ideal
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post Jan 20 2012, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Jan 19 2012, 04:34 PM)
dah try shell 20w50.... humang berat gila enjin.... tapi lama2 sedap plak bunyi engin... hahahaha

tak pelah... dah decide nak amik liqui moly pon.... nak test camne besh ke tak...
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if you want i can let you hear/feel/try with foot on my 1999 car brows.gif

10-40 liqui moly ss + liqui moly ceratec


Added on January 20, 2012, 12:42 am
QUOTE(huakenny @ Jan 19 2012, 05:11 PM)
how much is the liqui moly? if over rm100 better not
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its just barely over 100. as with torco

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post Jan 20 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Jan 20 2012, 11:38 AM)
quaza, since ur a ceratec user, do u flush using the lambda primer? its something i always wanted to ask elton but always forgot...

how often do u flush?
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before ceratec, flush always on OCI.

after ceratec, dont dare to flush and waste it. elton (and other friends that are into cars) and i share the general idea that, better if dont flush at all, but reapply ceratec every 30k km or 40k km instead of the advertised 50k km. (on reapply OCI, use a flush i guess)

you save your money from less flush usage, and consider consolidating it into one ceratec smile.gif
so in a way, if you're one who takes good care of car engine, and flush all the time, you're actually saving money rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 20 2012, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Jan 20 2012, 11:46 AM)
whats ur oci ?
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in between 5-7k. on avg 5.x-6

i drag if budget is tight/no time, and lm ss oils even up till close to 7k (never exceed 7k lol) also performing well, not much noticeable engine performance degrade.
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post Jan 20 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Jan 20 2012, 03:18 PM)
k. my oci has always been 10k, regardless of which ss or fs oil i used. i think, i shall stick to flushing it on every oci.... :|
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if you plan to go ceratec, i would advice against flushing. just stick to your regular 10k lo
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post Jan 20 2012, 11:57 PM

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good insights from the video bro.

well, my car aint exactly a precision engine, more like RAW mechanical horsepower, and that gets dirty easily
hell, notice between old and new cars, old cars' engine bays tend to get dirtier/blacker compared to cars today

probably to emission controls and lacking precision in combustion and what not.
however yeah, ever since ceratec, i also skip out on flushing as i dont wanna flush my ceramic coat sweat.gif


Added on January 20, 2012, 11:59 pm
QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Jan 20 2012, 11:18 PM)
actually i seldom flush my engine... just a habit not to and loads of pomen said to me its not really good for engine.... did try once and when already flushed and they put new oil... at the 1st start my engine scream like no body business.....

oh btw i just change my newly Liqui Moly semi synthetic oil.... tonight would be its 1st test....

balik kampung from bangi to kedah.... see how it handles.... hahahaha
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depends on what flush bro, so far millers oil/lambda primer positive feedback with them, however for one time i left my lambda primer overnight to you know, "clean more" before the OCI. next morning the engine is like half dead lol, lucky the workshop isnt too far, drive over and perform the OCI as scheduled smile.gif

anyways good luck with your LM evaluation smile.gif
and drive safe

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