some brief update: motul/redline/royal purple just dropped their API certification lolz

Will it void warranty if use non-API-certified EO in new car ?

you'll have to ask your SC for that

IINM proton no longer allows customers to bring their own EO and doing so will void warranty. not sure about other car makers

dropping the API wasn't an issue with me
liqui moly have lower API than shell and petronas
but it feels so good/better than shell and petronas

it's more of a standard/certification deal, more so to someone that have never experienced the EO and wonders if it's good or not.
i mean, anyone can claim anything, and how would the end user/consumers know?

ps: i've used and still have a 4 liter of LM lying around at home and yes i've been very confident of them, just venturing to something better ever since the discovery of better EO (starting with liqui moly, btw)

also, LM was API certified (albeit as you said, lower than the mainstream brands) before, they just stopped doing it about 3-4 years ago

how is torco engine oil ?

their TR5 semi syn not so good, i'd prefer LM over them. full syn, awesome stuff

so far so good with gf's persona. even the SC mechanic at Intan Matang Shah Alam ask me where did i bought the LM 10w40 because it was so cheap nowadays compared to yesteryears of exclusivity to BMW and Merc workshops.

there's probably some exception to it. however officially from proton they no longer allow.

you may refer to the info provided on the first page of the saga blm/flx thread in the car clubs section

Was it Proton EDAR SC or just authorized workshop?

so the SR-1 fully sync is good stuff ?

bro, engine oils cant synchronize yeah

and yes, SR-1 is fully synthetic, and API SN certified
0w20 is GF-5 and resource conserving certified as well (aka damn light rev happy responsive engine even AFTER 10k km without changing engine oil hehe)

typo there... im used to type sync straight away


because i plan to change my oil to SR-1 10W/30 or 5W/40 in the next service. previous service @ 83k i went to honda sc and they used a 0w-20 oil which is very thin. the next service is due 88k, but i guess i will go for it once i reach 87k

if your car still under warranty and goto honda sc, probably stick to it unless they CONFIRM with you that using your own EO won't void warranty.

also, if they using xw20 already, i highly recommend xw20 torco SR-1 as that is certified for resource conserving while the other viscosities are not.

no problem on oil drying out/flashing as after 8k km or so and replacing oil filter, there is ZERO reduction in EO levels

feel free to look up my posts within this thread on SR-1 reviews

my car ended warranty already. but my parents tend to bring it to honda sc for service even after warranty ended. last i check the bill it's damm expensive for a major service. so for the upcoming service i want to bring it to outside workshop, and i found 1 which uses torco engine oil

then give it a go lo, remember to get SR-1 0w20, and not SR-1 R yeah, which is more towards performance and won't have the longevity (additives/detergents) for longer OCI which is what makes it so attractive/worthy

if i flush out the 0w20 oil which is in my engine currently and chg to SR-1 R is it ok ?

because i was told to not rev too high if im using the 0w-20 oil, so far i just rev below 3k rpm only

the 0w-20 oil is this btw

http://www.honda.com.my/sales/parts_lubricant

yes it's ok. however no rush la, if you still got mileage to go prior to OCI then let it run it's course. no need go waste money change now lol.

lolwut 130-160 VI... for sure kantoi on either the response, or high temperature protection
SM is also an older grade compared to latest SN

can't check flashpoint/TBN though which is crucial for thin xw20 viscosity grade EO

here's torco:
http://www.torcousa.com/technology/TDS_SR-1%20MotorOil.pdf
only 138 VI, however the TBN and flash point is more than enough to be confident on it's protection capabilities, while it's response, you'll be the judge la

so yea, forget what you were told, once you changed, give it a go at your car and rev until rev cut just for the 'vtec kicked in yo'

Intan Matang (Proservis) Sdn Bhd

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/autodir/ad_...d=3042&page=142

authorized workshop i think.

http://proton-edar.com.my/Visit-Us/Service-Centres.aspx
it is, just checked.

so if they say ok, then ok i guess. BEST if you can get written letter, so when shit happens, they can't bullshit their way out of warranty claims