i can live with a kitlens and without any features if i can obtain the creativity that outweighs any gear.

I find it histerical that there are people who are pretentious of helping the alpha community yet when find the opportunity try to belittle the system with various "facts" (so called) whilst at the same time claiming non brand biased

This post has been edited by Banzai_san: May 30 2010, 08:42 PM

very nice read indeed.

my question:

why can't sony use nikon D3 sensor for their own a900?

my guess is nikon got sign contract with sony stating that its not allowed?

In other words I'm too straight forward perhaps? Well, at times I prefer going straight forward rather than faking my comments and thoughts especially when I'm commenting on a picture rather than giving a whole bunch of crappy replies of "ah nice, ah this ah that" just because I know them and not because the picture is really nice..

If you can live with kitlens, your siggy's gearlist wouldn't exist. It's just the matter of time before one upgrade. I've witnessed myself plenty of forumers here telling me stuff like, "hey, I just need a simple camera and kitlens and I won't need anything else". Well, give him a few months and you'll see new stuff popping up in their siggy. Perhaps self-denial is just a common thingy when a certain group of people just started.

Learn what's "histerical" before using that word. Don't want to elaborate much on sensitive people who thinks that belittling is a fun thing to do.

is the D3 sensor sony designed and fab or nikon designed but fabricated by Sony ?

aiyo guys, why are you guys cracking your head on this negligible matter? Whatever sensor Sony or Nikon uses, the important thing is the final outcome.

hysterical [hɪˈstɛrɪkəl], hysteric
adj
1. of or suggesting hysteria hysterical cries
2. (Psychiatry) suffering from hysteria
3. Informal wildly funny

hahaa...no ma...cause nikon sensors handles noise very well at high ISO...

if only sony could integrate some of the technology into its own sensor.........?

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Added on May 30, 2010, 8:55 pmadui..why becoming english class now?



This post has been edited by zstan: May 30 2010, 08:55 PM

You mentioned histerical and you actually googled hysterical. Which is why I suggest you to get use to it before using it.

Yea, which is why I don't understand why some people keep mentioning hey, this is using this part this and that afterall who cares all that as the most important is the last outcome and we knows Nikon's noise control pwn Sony's anytime(again I'm being too straight forward but since you guys also agreed). Whether Sony could use the same technology or not, I guess let's reserve it to Sony's CEO to comment rather than us speculating.

ah, just ignore it la. Out of sudden people like to go emotional and start hurling personal attack. Skip it and go back to the discussion

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: May 30 2010, 09:00 PM

please la.

sony CEO just sit at his table shake leg and wait money(from people like us) enter his pocket.

should be the head of the R & D team in the photography department.


it would save sony a lot of trouble by just using D3 sensor and maybe just change the name....i wonder what's stopping them from doing that..

LOL, true also. but I guess one word from Sony's CEO could alter everything. Who knows in future they might merge Nikon and Sony's technology?

nah...

i was thinking sony will swallow nikon...muahahhahaha....

Well, anything is possible. If Sony could really swallow Nikon, you guys will have plenty of lenses to use

Thats good for putting critique but in your comment I find out some "gear-head" minded and too "technically" of picky comparison especially when you keep emphasis the product. You might feel it right when you're truth for compare the general performance but sometimes, too much of performance or handling comparison ends up of flaming with others and making arguments. Well I still respect your words because you're much experiences on camera output and brands and also skills but this is just my personal opinion, no offence.

This post has been edited by wingster: May 30 2010, 09:14 PM

Impossible Nikon will get swallowed. They're doing so well and not facing any financial difficulties also.

No worries, none taken. Ask yourself, why did you upgrade to DSLR when you could stay with a PnS or even a cameraphone? Simply cause you want better stuff IQ, so why people discuss about lens and performance? Simple, like what I said, people will not stay stagnant and they upgrade as long as pocket could afford.

Don't be too realistic(straight forward) la thought it's pretty obvious

hahaha...its not impossible...

because if sony one day dun wan produce sensor for nikon then how?

any other credible sensor making companies out there?

or maybe nikon will have to approach canon instead..

then canon swallow nikon now..XD

omg..we keep hentam nikon.><

Assuming you are using an APS-C camera (not FullFrame), have a look at dyxum.com for UWA (Ultra Wide Angle) lens (ie ~10mm to 17mm at closest focal length)

http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/results.asp?IDLensType=3

This post has been edited by Banzai_san: May 30 2010, 09:33 PM

So many. Turn to Samsung lo. Sure wont stop providing them with sensors wan la. Good money for Sony too le.

MoO bro, you sold your UWA ? you had one before right? How was it?