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Mr.Docter
post May 14 2010, 03:33 PM

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'Desktop Replacement' typed is created for a reason.

simple. the reason is we want portability. EVERYONE know its stupid to compare real desktop with desktop-replacement desktop.

do you understand that in the first place?

/no offense.
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post May 14 2010, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 14 2010, 03:33 PM)
'Desktop Replacement' typed is created for a reason.

simple. the reason is we want portability. EVERYONE know its stupid to compare real desktop with desktop-replacement desktop.

do you understand that in the first place?

/no offense.
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Do you read?
Read the #1 post again, he NEVER mentioned portability.
He wanted a notebook that can replace desktop.
I'm not going to recommend a notebook that runs slower than desktop.
I'm recommending a notebook setup that runs close to desktop performance.

It's not stupid.
Current i7 is already a breakthrough. Likewise the Radeon 5870. Likewise the SSD.
i7 + SSD + Rad5870 is already a pretty kickass desktop-replacement setup.
I have used and tested it. Yes, this setup is GOOD enough to replace desktop.
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post May 14 2010, 03:45 PM

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so creating thread in Mobile Computing does not concern with portability then? lulz.

yes, it is stupid. unless you willing to carry that tower + monitor + speaker + everything anywhere you go.

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post May 14 2010, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 14 2010, 03:45 PM)
so creating thread in Mobile Computing does not concern with portability then? lulz.

yes, it is stupid. unless you willing to carry that tower + monitor + speaker + everything anywhere you go.

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So, you mean the i7 + SSD notebook is not portable?
Of course, I recommend a "desktop-replacement" notebook that is EQUALLY portable.
In fact, SSD is lighter than generic HDD.

Again thread starter did not ask for portability. Why divert to fit your illusion of portability?

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post May 14 2010, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 14 2010, 03:51 PM)

In fact, SSD is lighter than generic HDD. 

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Can it totally decrease a laptop's weight by 10%?? If it's 5%, then there's no meaning at all since you won't feel much about it.
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 14 2010, 03:57 PM)
Can it totally decrease a laptop's weight by 10%?? If it's 5%, then there's no meaning at all since you won't feel much about it.
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I know. Read my point again, it's EQUALLY portable.
In fact, I'm not the one that raise the "portability".

I'm recommending a "desktop-replacement" notebook.
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post May 14 2010, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 14 2010, 03:51 PM)
So, you mean the i7 + SSD notebook is not portable?
Of course, I recommend a "desktop-replacement" notebook that is EQUALLY portable.
In fact, SSD is lighter than generic HDD. 

Again thread starter did not ask for portability. Why divert to fit your illusion of portability?
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listen here my VIP friend.

1 - i (we?) do not have problem with your suggestion of i7 & SSD. because what you said is true - it is powerful. no one dare to doubt that since it is a fact.

2 - the problem is when you keep stressing that fact, yet TS budget is not sufficient to afford that.

3 - since TS is insufficient funds to buy a desktop replacement laptop, you suggest to go for desktop instead because its cheaper yet powerful.

4 - when i said desktop replacement is created for portability, you'd answer TS does not want/care about portability since he'd not mention it in the first post.

5 - i answer back - so posting in Mobile Computing thread instead of Desktop thread have nothing to do with portability?

6 - then you told me that i am divert this discussion.

everything is related. its just up to ones wheter he can relate it or not.


/anything that i missed, fella?
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post May 14 2010, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ May 14 2010, 10:32 AM)
and to be fair, some ppl are still using P4, 512MB Ram and a 6600GT for their desktop, so if they mean a laptop can can give them similar performance and experience to their current desktop, i think a laptop around 3k can give them even faster experience...

the term 'desktop replacement' is really subjective, for gamers and enthusiast or high end fan boys, it's always overpriced, but for normal home users that do lite surfing, word processing, watching movies once in a while and doing normal photo-editing, a 3K laptop would be enough i'd say...

photoshop can always use nVidia CUDA to help performance boost, a simple fact of GPU > CPU in raw performance
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my ancient desktop!!!!!! P4, 2.2GB ram and my legend AGP, Radeon 9600!!!!! (yea, i've been using ATi since 2002) 6600GT better than Radeon 9600 a lot right??
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 14 2010, 03:28 PM)
You failed to read.

Read my post again, I speak from the viewpoint of getting a "desktop replacement notebook".
I made my points,
1) i7
2) SSD
3) He can't get "desktop replacement notebook" with 3K.


Added on May 14, 2010, 3:29 pm
The conclusion is, he can't get a "desktop replacement" notebook with 3K.
Desktop is still faster and better option in that sense.

Is it so difficult to understand?
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aiyo, dont have to get good desktop replacement 1 ma.... to some ppl, vostro 3700 already enough to replace their desktop lor
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post May 14 2010, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 14 2010, 03:57 PM)
Can it totally decrease a laptop's weight by 10%?? If it's 5%, then there's no meaning at all since you won't feel much about it.
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5%? lulz. not even there when we talk about desktop replacement laptop.
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post May 14 2010, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 14 2010, 04:00 PM)
listen here my VIP friend.

1 - i (we?) do not have problem with your suggestion of i7 & SSD. because what you said is true - it is powerful. no one dare to doubt that since it is a fact.

2 - the problem is when you keep stressing that fact, yet TS budget is not sufficient to afford that.

3 - since TS is insufficient funds to buy a desktop replacement laptop, you suggest to go for desktop instead because its cheaper yet powerful.

4 - when i said desktop replacement is created for portability, you'd answer TS does not want/care about portability since he'd not mention it in the first post.

5 - i answer back - so posting in Mobile Computing thread instead of Desktop thread have nothing to do with portability?

6 - then you told me that i am divert this discussion.

everything is related. its just up to ones wheter he can relate it or not.
/anything that i missed, fella?
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Did you miss something?
Yes.

I repeat, he can't get desktop replacement with the budget of 3K.
If he can't afford, it is better to stick to his desktop (unless he's using an ancient P4 and an ancient version of Adobe Premier Pro).
I repeat, I'm not going to recommend a notebook that runs slower than desktop.
I don't advise him to downgrade.
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post May 14 2010, 04:28 PM

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u still fail to grab the pt of desktop replacement did u??? doh.gif

who says that a desktop replacement must come with i7 in the first place???

the main pt of a desktop replacement needs only to provide the experience of using a desktop while facing only a laptop...

and by that, the emphasis is on the monitor size...

if only i7 QM + SSD + HD5870 is a desktop replacement (desktop equivalent would be i7 800 series + SSD + HD5770), then tell me, wat's a desktop with Pentium G6950 + WD Caviar Green 320GB + Intel GMA HD? is that not a desktop?
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post May 14 2010, 04:32 PM

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personally i think you spent too much time in desktop world, and just entering this laptop world.

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 14 2010, 03:24 PM)
I have been overclocking my PCs in the past 20 years. I know what is cost vs performance.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 12 2010, 05:18 PM)
You can really feel i7 notebook as smooth as desktop (this is one of the reasons why I dumped my i7 desktop for i7 notebook).
its okay. everyone learning smile.gif

/passing my baton to whoever willing biggrin.gif
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post May 14 2010, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(astria @ May 14 2010, 04:28 PM)
then tell me, wat's a desktop with Pentium G6950 + WD Caviar Green 320GB + Intel GMA HD? is that not a desktop?
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post May 14 2010, 04:36 PM

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TS, try this AVADirect laugh.gif

NOTEBOOK Clevo W870CU Core™i7 Gaming Notebook, 17.3" Full HD TFT Glossy LCD, GeForce® GTX 285M / Radeon™ HD 5870 / Quadro® FX 2800M Graphics


my bad..dint read TS budget when i post

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QUOTE(astria @ May 14 2010, 04:28 PM)
u still fail to grab the pt of desktop replacement did u??? doh.gif

who says that a desktop replacement must come with i7 in the first place???

the main pt of a desktop replacement needs only to provide the experience of using a desktop while facing only a laptop...

and by that, the emphasis is on the monitor size...

if only i7 QM + SSD + HD5870 is a desktop replacement (desktop equivalent would be i7 800 series + SSD + HD5770), then tell me, wat's a desktop with Pentium G6950 + WD Caviar Green 320GB + Intel GMA HD? is that not a desktop?
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What is Intel G6950? I don't know what is G6950.
Assuming this is desktop, i think it's old desktop. WD Green 320GB? It pales when it compares to Velociraptor.
SSD is the "faster than Velociraptor" for notebook.
Moreoever, 7200rpm notebook HDD is slower than desktop WD Green 7200rpm 320GB.
So, moving from WD Green 7200rpm 320GB to 7200rpm notebook HDD is a DOWNGRADE.

I'm not suggesting thread starter to spend 3K to downgrade system (unless he owns a P3 or P4 desktop system).
Who fails to understand desktop-replacement notebook?

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: May 14 2010, 04:38 PM
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u should understand that no matter how powerful a notebook is, it still cant pawn desktop...
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post May 14 2010, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(iRonTech @ May 14 2010, 04:36 PM)
TS, try this  AVADirect laugh.gif

NOTEBOOK Clevo W870CU Core™i7 Gaming Notebook, 17.3" Full HD TFT Glossy LCD, GeForce® GTX 285M / Radeon™ HD 5870 / Quadro® FX 2800M Graphics


my bad..dint read TS budget when i post
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nice one sir! laugh.gif

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 14 2010, 04:37 PM)
What is Intel G6950? I don't know what is G6950.
Assuming this is desktop, i think it's old desktop. WD Green 320GB? It pales when it compares to Velociraptor.
SSD is the "faster than Velociraptor" for notebook.
Moreoever, 7200rpm notebook HDD is slower than desktop WD Green 7200rpm 320GB.
So, moving from WD Green 7200rpm 320GB to 7200rpm notebook HDD is a DOWNGRADE.

I'm not suggesting thread starter to spend 3K to downgrade system (unless he owns a P3 or P4 desktop system).
Who fails to understand desktop-replacement notebook?
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post May 14 2010, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 14 2010, 04:37 PM)
What is Intel G6950? I don't know what is G6950.
Assuming this is desktop, i think it's old desktop. WD Green 320GB? It pales when it compares to Velociraptor.
SSD is the "faster than Velociraptor" for notebook.
Moreoever, 7200rpm notebook HDD is slower than desktop WD Green 7200rpm 320GB.
So, moving from WD Green 7200rpm 320GB to 7200rpm notebook HDD is a DOWNGRADE.

I'm not suggesting thread starter to spend 3K to downgrade system (unless he owns a P3 or P4 desktop system).
Who fails to understand desktop-replacement notebook?
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then tell me, wat's a desktop with Pentium G6950 + WD Caviar Green 320GB + Intel GMA HD? is that not a desktop?


If you still don't grab what this means, then it'll be pointless to talk about your "desktop replacement" anymore...
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post May 14 2010, 04:43 PM

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so, for budget <3k, dell Vostro 3700 is the best option rclxms.gif
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post May 14 2010, 04:44 PM

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I just don't see the point here...ALeUNe just seems not to be able to grab the meaning of desktop replacement notebook sweat.gif...everyone here understand but why ALeUNe kinda in the dark about this..please read again what we wrote...we are not saying what you are saying is wrong but please be reasonable...

This is MOBILE COMPUTING Section..not HARDWARE!!!!


Added on May 14, 2010, 4:46 pmReasonable when want a notebook that is almost equally can match desktop, what you stated is true, no denying that but TS want a desktop-replacement notebook that is under RM3k which Vostro 3700 can give...still blur???


Added on May 14, 2010, 4:49 pmWe dun even know what TS desktop at home configured with what setting...maybe :

Intel Pentium 4, 80GB HDD 5400RPM, 2GB, Intel GMA....

What do you think, can Vostro 3700 be a replacement??
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