and i repeat again

1) files in such programs count in hundreds of MB and even GB... SSD is not going to provide the continuous transfer speed... HDD is still the preferred choice...

2) u dun need a quad... the main thing abt it is still RAM... 4GB is recommended but the more the merrier... however, if u really want 8GB (ie 2x 4GB), that's going to cost u a fortune...

in conclusion, Core i5 + 4GB RAM + 7200rpm HDD is the practical choice... which Vostro 3700 fulfills in anyway...

point 1: i am using a 5400rpm HDD for hmm..2 years? and i don see any problem with that....maybe SSD cuts the loading time for about 20 seconds....but for the 20 seconds u save u spend another RM400 to get SSD? somemore right now SSD rather expensive still...

point 2: same thing, i been using a p8400(2.26Ghz) as well, and everything is very responsive...if u are saying about the mass processing power needed by photoshop, i believe if u get urself a nvidia card, the CUDA plugin will ease ur processor a lot... i7 is good, of coz, but he say just for home use, not enthusiast..

This post has been edited by BBXiong: May 13 2010, 10:40 AM

Still though, what we must think about is TS budget....RM3k only the budget, how can TS want to topup :

SSD - RM400 at least
RAM - 8GB at least will cost RM400 for one 4GB
i7 - RM700 the least

All and all = RM3k + RM400 + RM600 = RM4k

Already exceed TS budget ...

Why we recommend Vostro 3700 as desktop replacement, is because its in TS budget and can do all the thing that TS want, that's all....

If TS said his budget is RM8k, sure no one will recommend Vostro 3700 ..there are many more which is the likes of Sager,Asus, etc etc...consider TS budget liao...not saying what have been said is wrong but then again, budget

This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 13 2010, 10:54 AM

comparison between 5400rpm and 7200rpm just about the same. yes, the different can be feel when games/program load but the margin is not too massive. yet, people willing to choose 7200rpm since the price is almost in same range as 7200rpm.

SSD? bah. with that budget, thats the last thing i would recommend. everyone knows why.

somehow i gotta agree with i7-720. but you can use large amount or ram to compensate if you are not using i7. i think its more logical, but different price for different specs.

TS, just look at a Toshiba or Asus line of laptops. Pick a few that you like then get back to us. It's because of this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/laptop-...a-win-hp-fails/
Ignore the Sony one. That's because they don't have a large enough sample due to their products being overpriced.
Also, it's better you get a hands on test on a few of these laptops yourself first to narrow down your choices. Then, it's easier for us to help you.


Nice try, Xzbiteve Jobs.

lmao JackAlvins, why i can't find those Xzbiteve Jobs quotes?

oh wait....

This post has been edited by Mr.Docter: May 13 2010, 01:54 PM

hmm...i smell fanboy-ism from those edited quote...oh wait.....

This post has been edited by BBXiong: May 13 2010, 01:15 PM

Upgrade MAC Laptop?
No need. MAC has got the newest i7 with SSD.
You have the option to upgrade to 8GB ram too.
It's meant to replace desktop and also that crappy ipad.
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html

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Added on May 14, 2010, 2:37 amNo, for notebook, you can tell the difference between 5400rpm and 7200rpm.
For desktop, you can tell the difference between 7200rpm and 10000rpm.
SSD is much faster than desktop 10000rpm HDD.
Yes, it's a massive performance boost for notebook in that sense.

Read my post#16, i said he couldn't get "desktop replacement notebook" with the budget of RM3K.
I made points. I said he needed to top up a bit if he wanted a "desktop replacement notebook".

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: May 14 2010, 02:37 AM

I do not think dunkiedonuts to buy macbook pro because his budget is <3k.






then, for budget <3k, dell Vostro 3700 is the best option .. I agree with miahahaha

This post has been edited by mzzzk8819: May 14 2010, 04:01 AM

u still dun get the main pt, do u???

budget aside (which already is the biggest reason why SSD is not feasible), SSD dun ve the speed needed to deal with LARGE files... by large i mean hundreds of MB or even GB... they excel in burst reading, but not continuous reading...

it's very simple to see... try copying dramas/anime from ur so-called fast thumbdrive/SD card and external 3.5" HDD... the difference is obvious...

u seem to be in ur own performance lala land, thinking watever works for u will work for others as well... but sorry, most of us here are after performance : price ratio, which is wat TS needs since he has a budget to begin with...

and to be fair, some ppl are still using P4, 512MB Ram and a 6600GT for their desktop, so if they mean a laptop can can give them similar performance and experience to their current desktop, i think a laptop around 3k can give them even faster experience...

the term 'desktop replacement' is really subjective, for gamers and enthusiast or high end fan boys, it's always overpriced, but for normal home users that do lite surfing, word processing, watching movies once in a while and doing normal photo-editing, a 3K laptop would be enough i'd say...

photoshop can always use nVidia CUDA to help performance boost, a simple fact of GPU > CPU in raw performance

ahh nevermind. just forget about it. hate spending my weekend in this thread..

This post has been edited by Mr.Docter: May 14 2010, 11:17 AM

unless the 3k that TS mention is USD, i don think we are anything near macbooks, let alone with i7 and SSD..

7.2k RPM HDD is still acceptable, but honestly la, SSD, price/GB is way way too overpriced, right now is 40GB for RM430...install W7 and u have ~30GB left, too impractical...i know there are bigger size that goes up to 160GB, but the SSD alone will cost TS half his budget...so unless we are talking in a thread that have 10k for laptop budget, i don think we need to further mention SSD anymore...it's just an overpriced piece of tech right now

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Added on May 14, 2010, 12:02 pmlol...just dump ur message here and come check on monday lo...lol
agree with that u posted actually

This post has been edited by BBXiong: May 14 2010, 12:02 PM

no offense but only fanboy unrealistic fella will keep suggesting something that they like/owned when the situation is not allowed (budget, screen size), and there is other specs which way better than that.

don't deny it. i saw you'd even suggesting i7 in lappy's gaming thread.

EDIT : typo.

This post has been edited by Mr.Docter: May 14 2010, 12:24 PM

ya la....he keep fail to notice that TS is under a tight budget...core i7 is expensive and out of reach for 3k budget...


i guess TS you should just consider Dell Vostro, maybe Asus if u can get decent spec....if u want gaming..i think before this i saw on ebay got Asus's Refurbished G51 that's using GTX260M, price + import is around 2.7k, but draw back is US warranty only, and warranty only for 3 months...

i can accept i7 in this case. but SSD.. man. for real? why you really want to rush? can't wait of loading 20 more secs?

i'd use 5400rpm for my last Acer for gaming and everything, no problem that i faced. yep, it slower like what? 4 5 secs? i have no problem for wait. after some times, i upgraded to 500GB 7200rpm, almost no significant improvement. i'd tried both speed personally. so i know what i am talking about, not based on some benchmarking result or somethin'.

if you have an extra bucks, then you can consider SSD. came onn sir. be realistic.

yeah...same here, somemore it's not like u gonna reboot every 5 minutes, then the 20-30 seconds would be significant...just just press the power button and do other things while u wait la...no one force u to stare at the laptop mah...

lol...i think we are kinda off topic here with i7 and SSD....better stick back original case..

i7 is only good for multitasking, and the programs u run are optimized for HTT, or else, get an i5 with decent clock speed and it'll get ur job done..it's good to have a future proof laptop, but do not throw in too much money to get stuff that is gonna be easily upgradable and will be cheaper in the future, like SSD...

I stand on my points.
I have been transferring 50-60GBs of MKVs from SSD to SSD, from SSD to HDD, from HDD to SSD, from SSD to USB 2.0 HDD etc.
What continuous reading are you talking about? I see it transferring files fast. It doesn't suffer from transferring huge file.

I have been overclocking my PCs in the past 20 years. I know what is cost vs performance.
Is price paid on SSD worth it? Absolutely yes.
How so? Because this is the freaking BEST hardware add-on to your notebook that can freaking boost the performance.
Name me ONE hardware for notebook that can boost the performance like SSD.
Think again, is it worth the price? Yes.
You pay what you get. I give my advice - the decision is on the buyer.

Spending on SSD is much better than spending on premium brand like Alienware, Sony etc.

emm soooo sir, for conclusion, what is the best model that have all the criteria that you want and suit TS budget, again?

You failed to read.

Read my post again, I speak from the viewpoint of getting a "desktop replacement notebook".
I made my points,
1) i7
2) SSD
3) He can't get "desktop replacement notebook" with 3K.

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Added on May 14, 2010, 3:29 pmThe conclusion is, he can't get a "desktop replacement" notebook with 3K.
Desktop is still faster and better option in that sense.

Is it so difficult to understand?

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: May 14 2010, 03:29 PM