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 Working Life in Singapore V3a, new version...

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post Sep 8 2010, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(icycokes @ Sep 8 2010, 01:34 AM)
i used to work with a M1 dealer. perhaps we are just a dealer, my company policy had made it clear that foreign customers have to show (or even a photocopied version will suffice) a valid passport (ie a more than 6 months validity in terms of expiry). this is to further make sure the mobile contract application will not be rejected by M1.

i understand this policy might sounds ridiculous to customers but you definitely have no idea how much we (the staff) will have to compensate if the application is rejected.

you cant sign it, just bring your passport next time, they usually will reserve the set for you. whats the big deal? from what i gathered from the customers, we generally have better service attitude than M1 staffs.

PS: M1 takes all complains compliments with high attention. better if you can provide staff ID.
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Im more interested of the the "reason" since the work pass is supposed to replace the passport for "normal" administrative purposes.

So logic should dictate that signing up for a mobile plan when you have a valid work pass should suffice since its not like your signing up for something which requires security clearance like an army camp, jurong island etc etc.

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post Sep 9 2010, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(toda6866 @ Sep 9 2010, 04:28 PM)
if got offer here, tunggu apa lagi? brows.gif resign lor

doing our politicians, me n my future kids a favour....  tongue.gif
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Yea, thats if you want your money to be tied to the state. Now nobody can withdraw their CPF entirely, you only get an allowance and when u die, whatever is leftover is distributed to next of kin. To ensure that the CPF money is in the hands of the government and not the rakyat whom actually earned that money.
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post Sep 13 2010, 04:26 PM

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Anybody here work for keppel group?
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post Sep 14 2010, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(toughnut @ Sep 14 2010, 09:21 AM)
Anyone working in Keppel Shipyard as management trainee? What's the salary range should i put? Hope to join them soon
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Keppel contract department can sometime be bastards. They like to delay payments in the interest of squeezing a discount from you, even though a contract has been signed which stated that their not suppose to renegotiate after the project has been completed and there is a time frame for due payment. I know a few consultants/contractors who successfully sued keppel due to renege on the contract.

Unfortunately, jurong shipyard is worse in the attitude department, nearly everybody from the engineer to supervisor to the operations manager were put on this earth to hinder you doing your job every step of the way. Even getting through security with the proper documentation is stressful enough.

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QUOTE(wseng @ Sep 14 2010, 07:04 PM)
Haha... I got once at sembawang yard. They ask for my malaysian IC even though i've given them my EP and shipyard induction card... Really siao. And many other malaysian were denied from entry because of this. Luckily i brought it with me all the time.
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Do they still do that shit?

I now go under "owner/client" pass since im now attached to projects rather then doing small contracts. I remember they used to ask for IC if your malaysian but i heard they stop that practice early this year.

Jurong shipyard is the shit, best would be jurong island, whenever its cloudy, lightning hazard is in effect and everybody switches to "lepak" mode. Most of the clients hate this since it means loss of productivity when as they say, "safety first" and the lip service which comes with it.

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post Sep 15 2010, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(toughnut @ Sep 15 2010, 10:20 AM)
crapp0, you still working in Keppel? From what you mentioned, seem like working condition not really productive.
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Working condition in keppel depends on whether keppel department, be it project, finance or QA is trying to be funny. This usually happens in keppel tuas.

I do some surveys from time to time, it really depends on whether the ship docks at which shipyard. If they dock at keppel tuas, then i have to goto keppel tuas and put up with the usual crap. Most of my clients prefer that i do deal directly to them but keppel policy state that if the ship docks there, any surveys or job done in the shipyard has to go through the keppel, not directly to the "owner" of the ship which is preferable for me and my client since keppel tend to jack up the price and pay a pittance to contractors.

Jurong island is rather flexible since i deal with exxonmobil projects under another firm.

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QUOTE(toughnut @ Sep 15 2010, 03:11 PM)
Are you a project manager/engineer? Engineers not based in single shipyard but rotated around? Thanks for info sharing smile.gif
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Im a contractor, i dont work as a direct employee of the shipyard, i do some work on behalf of the yard for clients who have ships currently in the shipyard for repair or conversion projects.
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Sep 15 2010, 03:29 PM)
Oh, i thought u're Keppelites too hahaha. Thanks for the info.
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Keppelites are overated. Like petronas engineer when they outsource technical aspects to connoco philips and request connoco philips staff to wear petronas coveralls. But that could be said of a number of MNC companies like shell, exxonmobile etc.

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QUOTE(reign226 @ Sep 15 2010, 08:51 PM)
You're applying? I recently saw a huge batch of new faces wearing overalls, not sure whether they are new intake or not because there's like 20-30 people. I thought they were on attachment from the local poly/university. Did you graduate from Malaysian or Singaporean university? Also what class is your degree? HR will use this to determine your salary based on their scale. If you're on Malaysian degree just put 2.5k and you'll get it. Are you coming for interview?
What project were you working on? The hull number? Recently we have this very difficult owner who are squeezing us for all we're worth.
If you are from Keppel working conditions are a lot better than the workers/contractors. But I treat the contractors very nice...you never know when you need help with something.
Not sure on the above. We recently tied up with J Ray Mcdermott on a spar project because of their experience in that aspect. Last I checked J.Ray weren't wearing Keppel coveralls. But anyway the company's pretty big so you have your share of very bright people as well as greenhorns that are still trying to learn the ropes. The bigger your population, the bigger your standard deviation =P.

So far I'm enjoying the life there, even though working here means you need to wake up at 5.30am and usually go home at 6.30pm. Production department is always hell but the pay is good (if you are coming from Malaysia as a fresh grad). However a few of my friends found better offers after getting a few years experience and jumped ship. Its a wonderful learning experience, however.
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I did some jobs for the ship owner, but on behalf of keppel as always. Mainly FPSO ships since KSL main claim to fame is their FPSO conversion. Like FPSO Espirito Santo, FPSO Okha, P57, FPSO Peregrino, BW Pioneer etc etc.

The last ship i did on a project basis in KSL was FPSO Peregrino. There was one keppel engineer by the surname of Tan who gave me a bad impression of keppel staff since i found him to be arrogant and wasnt very sociable and was rather rude, not just me but every other fella who wasnt higher in status then him. I dont get that at jurong island or sembawang shipyard and generally the people over there arent as stuck up.


Added on September 15, 2010, 9:44 pm
QUOTE(wseng @ Sep 15 2010, 09:18 PM)
The last time when I was there this year ... around March .. they still practising it.. but it seems only a few security guys and their standards all different one lar..
Best thing go make blue eyes contact lens, dye blonde hair and speak like ang moh .. then everything also 'boleh'.. even in singapore.. haha.

I do need to work at different yards every now and then .. and most of their procedures are different.. haha..
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The last time i went in as "normal" contractor was a year ago, and if im not mistaken i kena that malaysian IC once and the old fart aka security guard told me i must always have my malaysian IC with me. I'm not so sure if this is standard sembawang security policy or not.

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QUOTE(RyonanGT @ Sep 19 2010, 02:04 PM)
Lester1987, u will get ur PR... smile.gif

hi guys, do u guys know any O&G company in Singapore that is looking for engineer?

thank you very much... notworthy.gif
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Saipem looking for mechanical engineers as well as transocean.
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post Sep 22 2010, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Sep 22 2010, 12:51 PM)
Just asking what type of jobs in Marine Industry suitable for a 6 yrs Electronic Engineer? >5k Possible?

Is Dynamic Positioning a good area to explore?
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Marine inspection and surveying can earn alot more then that. But with influx of india workers, the prices are dropping like theres no tomorrow.
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QUOTE(wseng @ Sep 22 2010, 06:27 PM)
From what I see, it's mostly electronics world in the marine industry automation. There are many areas to go such as :
Navigation, engine control, instrumentation controls and many more control stuffs..
But just depend on what type of role you would like to play ? Ex : Design, project, service.. etc.
Some needs more in-depth skills but some only needs a little more than fundamentals..

I'm not very sure if dynamic positioning is the 'niche' area or not for this industry... but I see if the issue is related to Oil and gas then probably it would get a better return as compared to marine only ..
I do see surveyor as someone we have to make them happy especially when our equipments have to meet their expectations.. maybe that's why their pay is high ?? haha.. .But when u say influx of Indian workers means are there a many Indian Surveyors already in the market ??
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Just ask the fella who is working in keppel. Marine industry and jurong island are filled with indian labour. or just goto tuas at around 7.30am and you can see them being sent to work in the truck load as far as the eye can see.

Yesterday i went to the south china sea aka international waters as an independent witness together with a class surveyor just to check a repair job. Unfortunately the surveyor and i had to make 3 trips since the welder farked up the repair and the ship was behind schedule for 2 days due to this problem. The welder was a malaysian whose english was fubar couldnt explain to me or the surveyor what type of filler material he was using, what welding method he was using, and his welding cert was dodgy to say the least. All he could to was sing like a parrot and say "good" infront of every sentence.



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QUOTE(reign226 @ Sep 22 2010, 09:48 PM)
its like a damn warzone here at my HDB. people letting off explosives like no tomorrow and I almost thought there was a fire.

Yes marine is a labour intensive industry and there are lots of foreigners here because locals don't find the job particularly appealing. One of my friend who quit put it nicely when he said he doesn't have to wake up at 5.30am anymore, work a 5-day week, and smell perfume instead of welding fumes everyday.


Added on September 22, 2010, 9:50 pmoh and after awhile you find yourself being able to understand all sorts of slang. Indian english, Myanmar english these two were practically greek to me when I first started. strangely after a few months, I find myself being able to understand every word now.
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Its not myanmar or indian english, its sloppy english. Malaysians are no better depending on who you meet. Usually those welder or supervisors from malaysia whose english are a joke.
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Sep 23 2010, 12:04 PM)
if they hav better eng then u u'll b reporting to them not them to u
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Sep 24 2010, 03:58 PM)
why not just tell them u left smth in Singapore and u need to go back and collect it.
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As if they would let you in due to pity. When it comes to the law, singaporean officers are hard asses.
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Anybody experience this shit before? Auntie in freaking racist flip mode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiuKsY213H8

Fortunately the only thing i encountered was an inconsiderate grandma who wouldnt give her grocery seat to another elderly person, after the other elderly woman politely asked if she could take the grocery seat.

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QUOTE(darkages @ Sep 27 2010, 10:05 AM)
Couldn't understand what she's saying except for some obvious profanities.
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Arent the profanities "bleeped out"?

Its very obvious she is a typical racist.
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QUOTE(magiclover @ Sep 27 2010, 11:44 AM)
Very racist indeed cursing the foreigners' mum and said they no money.
But she can just turn to be very nice to the senior uncle immediately..
What a good shift.
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Her voice is very grating, the same type like my neighbor and landlord. Always with the "siao" and they wont take no for an answer.
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QUOTE(magiclover @ Sep 27 2010, 12:09 PM)
Typical aunty voice?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN829IyRWSc&feature=related
The lady above could be the same lady, the way they curse also alike
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Thats the problem with these people, they just cant let go. They have to push their agenda on you with expletives and have 2 win the argument at all cost. Their like the real life version of internet trolls.
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Sep 27 2010, 02:52 PM)
that budget cannot make it le... unless find outskirt areas, not very near MRT, and no aircon?
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