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abbychan87
post May 10 2010, 04:00 PM

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tongue.gif no egg no chicken, no chicken no egg, at the 1st, GOd produce a chicken 1st to the world, then oni come with egg~ i think so ~
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post May 10 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(abbychan87 @ May 10 2010, 04:00 PM)
tongue.gif no egg no chicken, no chicken no egg, at the 1st, GOd produce a chicken 1st to the world, then oni come with egg~ i think so ~
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I don't think so. If there is a god, he would have produced an egg first. Why? Because there is a process involves from an egg to a chicken. So a fully formed chicken has "less information" that an egg. Since an egg is more powerful than a chicken, definitely a god created a chicken is less powerful than a god created an egg and you can't have that, can you?
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post May 10 2010, 11:47 PM

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sounds logical 2me:P
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post May 11 2010, 07:21 AM

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chciken comes first u fool. Study your bible. In the first day God create light then few days later the animals and stuff. God wouldnt be so dumb to create an egg and risk being step over by other animals. Waste of effort. A wiser choice will be to create a chicken directly and let it develop.
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post May 11 2010, 09:44 AM

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Chicken come 1st la... without chicken hw can the egg hatch ? =.=

did god just create sperm and the egg ? nop he created humans =D so chicken got the be the correct answer =)


Added on May 11, 2010, 9:45 am
QUOTE(f4tE @ May 11 2010, 07:21 AM)
chciken chicken comes first u fool. Study your bible. In the first day God create light then few days later the animals and stuff. God wouldnt be so dumb to create an egg and risk being step over by other animals. Waste of effort. A wiser choice will be to create a chicken directly and let it develop.
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totally agree =D




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post May 11 2010, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ May 11 2010, 07:21 AM)
chciken comes first u fool. Study your bible. In the first day God create light then few days later the animals and stuff. God wouldnt be so dumb to create an egg and risk being step over by other animals. Waste of effort. A wiser choice will be to create a chicken directly and let it develop.
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QUOTE(jarod89 @ May 11 2010, 09:44 AM)
Chicken come 1st la... without chicken hw can the egg hatch ? =.=

did god just create sperm and the egg ? nop he created humans =D so chicken got the be the correct answer =)


Added on May 11, 2010, 9:45 am
totally agree =D
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please keep religious opinion out of this thread,this thread is about zoology,which is a branch of life sciences,religious information is definitely not part of it,so behave yourselves...
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post May 11 2010, 01:25 PM

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The eggplant came first
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post May 11 2010, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(jarod89 @ May 11 2010, 09:44 AM)

did god just create sperm and the egg ? nop he created humans =D so chicken got the be the correct answer =)

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Good reasoning...

Now... r we gonna discuss about origin of human too?
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post May 11 2010, 11:49 PM

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The eggplant!
SpikeMarlene
post May 12 2010, 12:20 AM

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The egg comes first. Simple. The not-so-chicken laid a mutated egg which becomes a chicken.
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post May 12 2010, 01:21 AM

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been resisting for so long....

actually.....








the cock comes 1st *barumbum*
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post May 12 2010, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(Something Else @ May 11 2010, 11:49 PM)
The eggplant!
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um...not funny. shakehead.gif
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post May 12 2010, 08:13 AM

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pleaase la.. this is not a funny thread.. please give your professional opinion smile.gif
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post May 13 2010, 01:00 AM

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scientific and logic opinion agrees that the egg comes before the chicken.

creationist as per usual hold out that chicken must be created first.

whats there to discuss?
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post May 13 2010, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ May 10 2010, 05:12 PM)
I don't think so. If there is a god, he would have produced an egg first. Why? Because there is a process involves from an egg to a chicken. So a fully formed chicken has "less information" that an egg. Since an egg is more powerful than a chicken, definitely a god created a chicken is less powerful than a god created an egg and you can't have that, can you?
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QUOTE(f4tE @ May 11 2010, 07:21 AM)
chciken comes first u fool. Study your bible. In the first day God create light then few days later the animals and stuff. God wouldnt be so dumb to create an egg and risk being step over by other animals. Waste of effort. A wiser choice will be to create a chicken directly and let it develop.
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Both of ur main point is debatable provided only if god is PROVEN to be exist, which is in the other thread.
Of course according to the bible we dont need egg to produce chicken, only need god's hand to bring chickens out

If we think in scientific perspective, we can assume that egg come first.
Since dinosaur do produce eggs, it is not entirely impossible that evolution/devolution of dinosaur produce the first chicken in the world
Of course, this is just assumption
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post May 13 2010, 06:35 PM

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you guys are blinded with 'chicken' and 'egg', the true question to this should be, are we born.. or are we made?

the simple answer is, both questions have their own answer..., not one.


Added on May 13, 2010, 6:38 pmand there is another question from that also..., is the chicken male or female? ><... and which one first??

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post May 14 2010, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(eone @ May 13 2010, 06:35 PM)
you guys are blinded with 'chicken' and 'egg', the true question to this should be, are we born.. or are we made?

the simple answer is, both questions have their own answer..., not one.


Added on May 13, 2010, 6:38 pmand there is another question from that also..., is the chicken male or female? ><... and which one first??
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obviously we are born into this world, i have not seen a "made" human.
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post May 15 2010, 11:23 PM

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interesting, whatever it is, the chicken must come to this world as a pair, male and female. and surely its impossible for egg comes first laugh.gif

err, where is evolutionist? rolleyes.gif whistling.gif


Added on May 15, 2010, 11:26 pm
QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ May 14 2010, 03:53 PM)
obviously we are born into this world, i have not seen a "made" human.
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but , we are created at the first place right? hmm.gif same case as chicken, i just thinking that for some reason, we must came to this world by pair.

btw, why humans not lay egg? brows.gif (obviously question for evolutionist tongue.gif )


Added on May 15, 2010, 11:28 pm
QUOTE(furryfluffy @ May 8 2010, 03:54 PM)
Which comes first?

Chicken or Egg?

In my humble opinion, chicken came first.

If the egg came first...

...When predator step on it, it will be damaged & no chick to hatch.
...When predator wanna eat it, egg cant protect itself & hence no chick to hatch.

If chicken, at least dinosaur chase it, it can run.

Furthermore, it is during the life cycle of the chicken that evolution & adaptation to its surrounding that make the chicken improve & changes it's DNA to suit the environment for the next coming generation.

Then only 2 chicken mate & produce egg .

What do you think?

tq.
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some more question, how does chicken come to this world hmm.gif .why you are considering egg to come to this world at the first place?

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post May 16 2010, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(azerroes @ May 15 2010, 11:23 PM)
interesting, whatever it is, the chicken must come to this world as a pair, male and female. and surely its impossible for egg comes first laugh.gif
aiyaaaaaa..you ahhhhhhhhhh

in the very beginning there was chinese and indian. chinese married indian. come out baby is chindian. where got need chindian pair to create chindian baby wan?

sweat betul u. sweat.gif
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post May 16 2010, 01:36 AM


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not that good of an analogy teongpeng,.....but still there's something to learn from it...

evolution can occur through small changes and changes is small enough that there can be interbreeding between chicken and pre-chicken

also.....the difference in definition of variety and species there's still gray areas....

eg: Saint Bernards and Chihuahuas
if you put them together, they are unlikely to interbreed between the 2 variety of dog due to huge difference in size although breeding can be done artificially....
so species : natural classification or artificial? same goes for variety....
so sometimes it is hard to say that 1 is a new species

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