so what are the points to look for to appreciate a watch?
movement, craftsmanship, history?

I'm thinking of getting a victorinox, are their watches ok?

nice design but high MSRP!

hmm how about if we bought it online, like Laco?

600++ can buy an automatic watch?

hey your laco is 42mm right?

I am thinking of ordering Flieger without logo (us$660).. thing is its 2824-2, though its nicely done with silver rotor.. kinda turn me off.

I would have got a Antea creme 39mm with far less money (us$375), not to mention I like the design too. no silver rotor and serial number not a big deal here.
the Antea 365 with Soprod A10 is another choice its smaller. I do have to Zenith sporto at the same size and I don't mind the small size.

decide to drop Flieger... now its btw Antea Creme and 365.... hmm.... guess I'll sleep on it for a few day and see..

lots of ppl want their Flieger thus Stowa can afford to jack up on prices even its using the same movement, may it be logo or no logo. case and all shouldn't be any different.
the only diff I see is the silver rotor.

Antea 365 is small.. thinking can pass to my kid when she grow up. thing is not sure how often will I wear a 36.5mm watch. cost of keeping movement running here runs about US$150. getting a higher end movement maybe more worth it to maintain it.
the regular creme is just US$370+.

well, I am thinking of passing things down slowly when kid turn 12 or 13. U wanna pass down your speedy to a boy at 12yrs old? not the laco?
I just got my spouse try on a Zenith, at 36mm its large for a lady. for a 12yr old a 36mm maybe huge for a kid's wrist even for a boy, a gal generally have smaller wrist.
I'll be passing my quartz tag for sure, can let the kid bang around and not worry have to service the movement.

BTW: spotted someone selling a ETA 2824 gold plated at ~us$100 on WUS. though U may wanna know that since u plan on upgrading the Laco

thanks for ur help..at the stowa website, Malaysia isn't one of the countries i can choose for billing..what to do?

wow, the VAT is hefty!

thats what I learnt too, just create 1 and email stowa directly to place the order. don't have to go thru the website.

I meant create account on Fedex http://fedex.com/my/registration/account.html

and email Stowa to order, that easy

according to ck77 experience. Malaysia no tax on watch (import).
usually no Tax when U getting overseas. buy from USA, UK and ship to Malaysia no tax.
buy from Germany, I got tax from http://www.watchstyle.com/
ck77 didn't get tax from Laco.
Stowa is a mix bag depending how U do it.

Hi All,

Sorry for interrupting, anyway any of you guys know where can I sell my 2nd hand watch. Actually not really 2nd hand as I just bought it last week in pavillion (haven't use yet, still new in box) My watch is the ORIS day date watch which is exactly as the model in the URL below.

http://www.oris.ch/collections/collections...n=en&watchid=79

Willing to let go at a bit cheaper than the retail price I've paid for it. Reason to sell is that no longer found it attractive (found a nicer watch with the same range price...I know its lame..fickle minded)

Anyway absolutely 100% original and not fake FYI. Anyone interested here also can PM me. I can show the product pictures once I take it with my camera.

Zul

p/s - sorry if this is not the correct thread

curious George here... what are u getting from Taiwan?

guys need some poll here.
given a choice btw a Atmos 528 or 540 which will u get?

a 540 looks slim, 13 jewel movement.
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/gorg...-model-l-k-nr-1


528 is the original atmos design which is improved over the yrs.
http://www.gutlin.com/stock_images/atmos_i..._pages/1799.htm

wow.. rolex sub! taiwan better deal?

care to explain whats a T-dial.