Well, he is comparing movement to the heart of the vehicle the engine or power transmission. These parts of the vehicle are build inhouse. Honda may supply engine to Saturn but they have a choice. Mazda supplies engine and pwr tran to Ford because Ford has shares in Mazda.
anyhow the rest of the parts in a car is like the case/strap/rubber gasket of a watch, they can be supplied by 3rd parties.
I think this is what he is trying to get.

thats is out of your budget.
not everyone here has a rich dad and is able to make 5k a mth working part time.
I understand. nonetheless try brands like Orient/Seiko/Citizen. U should have no problem finding something on leather. Steel bracelet generally cost more.

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Added on August 4, 2010, 1:01 amalot of speculation around Rolex.
Daytona on Zenith El Primero sure fetch good price. Movado on Zenith El Primero, not really.

I am not in the shape to speculate and make good money on Rolex/watches. Those AD always jack up prices once news is out. The used Sea Dweller prices did jump alot and 1 could cost more than the replacement model! I think prices gone down a little.

not base in the region, I cannot get any deals on Rolex. Was at topper this weekend and Rolexs are sold at retail price! even those pre-own generally cost RM2-3K higher here.


This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 4 2010, 01:01 AM

what type U looking for?
size?
leather?
gold/steel?
function? date? pwr res? moonphase? (water res not impt here as its a dress watch)

LOL... have gold plated what. today want to find 22K gold watch also hard!

how mild would u recommend here? pool i gather at least 100m. 30-50m may not survive. mechanical just need a simple service. quartz may have to change the entire movement.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 5 2010, 09:32 AM

really? my mum's gold pated watch didn't show any wear and she has been using it for ~10-15yrs.
what does high humidity got to go with chemical reaction of gold on steel plating? care to explain alittle here?
I still thought gold plating wear off because of daily wear and tear due to knocks.
http://www.thomasnet.com/articles/custom-m...g/plating-types

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 5 2010, 09:44 AM

mid size? thats ~38mm.
classic and not too uncle? whats too uncle?

try
- http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/

- Stowa Antea 365 on A-10
http://www.basel2010.com/en/stowa-antea-365-a10.php
www.stowa.com
- nomos club (36mm) http://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/Nomos-Cl...ial-19p1395.htm

- http://www.jswatch.com/collection/101-38-mm
- Frederique constant Classic / heart beat

- Louis Erard heritage collection
- Longines masters collection, L2.628.4.78.3 or L2.640.4.51.3

- Epos http://www.gntwatches.com/watchIndex.cfm?mfr=2

- MeisterSinger
http://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/MeisterS...Dial-14p846.htm


This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 5 2010, 10:39 AM

congrats! do read the manual 1st!!!!
its still free right? don't go breaking a feebie!

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Added on August 5, 2010, 7:58 pmthey are within your budget. say ~10-14k.

have U seen theses?

http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...=166&Itemid=402



ebel?
http://www.thewatchery.com/Ebel/Watch/9330240/11635134#

http://www.watchseller.com/ebclaswavblu.html


mido



www.stowa.com


This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 6 2010, 11:38 AM

so whats your experience shopping with them?
whats in the package?
got used to an automatic?

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Added on August 6, 2010, 11:41 amshare those sources esp U're giving it a pass!


This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 6 2010, 11:41 AM

faster? 2824 no way it can be super accurate. how much faster after 24hrs?

mechanical - auto or manual?
main difference quartz run on battery, mechanical a spring.

cheap how cheap?
did u try page 1 post 1?

U didn't read this on page 1 post 1?




This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 8 2010, 11:20 AM

winding coarse? how long did U own the watch.
if there are parts that req changing u may end up paying more th RM$1510.
Do Watches of Switzerland perform servicing? some AD don't do that, they just help U ship to service centre to get it done and charge u more for their middle man service.

I will check with TSC and get a quote. reputable watch maker wouldn't give U a quote immediately, they would have to open it and inspect it to give U a quote. then U have to be comfortable leaving your watch there.

@CK77 have U see est of cost done by TSC and another watchsmith in Summit USJ? Can share these info?

my local watchmarker here also give me 1 yr warranty on the job.
this week should be picking up my Atmos! took them a good mth to clean and regulate the thing

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 8 2010, 11:54 PM

TSC is what price again?

where to sell?
there is watchuseek/watchnet/timezone.pmwf to post or the local http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/ sales section or LYN Street Mart or even on this thread, so long MOD is fine with it.

Is that even negotiable? ppl operating the biz these days so kind?

1. both are using the same movement. cost diff is mainly to do the ceramic bezel. its scratch resistance.

2. your fren is mistaken. both ML and oris have similar resale value as a Longines. 1st of all they all run on ETA. Oris do min modification and some say they only do the rotor beside that oris obtain their case/straps from the far east. Longines get ETA to mod to their specification. ML do get movement from ETA but they do decorate and refinish the movement. They certain mod the movement more than longines/Oris. However demand for ML is not there and watches at used market can be seen selling low at 75% off their retail!!! I don't really get 2nd hand value here.
look at your local grey market
http://www.collectorstime.com/maurice-lacroix.php

2a: when U are getting an entry level watch like Longines/Oris/Tag/ML/BM etc they don't hold their resale value well, even for a limited edition watch of 50pcs!
watches from Stowa, Damasko, Guinand/Nomos may hold their value a little better if U are selling to ppl on WUS/Timezone/Watchnet not to 2nd dealers in the region. Damasko/nomos do their case in germany. Stowa and Guinand in Europe. These brands do not produce that many watches. There is often a wait of these, since they do not mass produce watches like Tag/Longines/oris/ML. U don't spend alot of money either since you are not paying into their marketing cost.

Archimede's case also done in germany, case are not throw regular stamping process, making them harder. I am pretty sure oris/Longines/ML etc use the stamping process, even Rolex does it.
http://www.archimede-uhren.de/EN/Pilot-Chrono.htm

esp Damasko cool lume, ice hard case, anti magnetic case = no display back. Don't matter right longines also no display back.


guinand watch, have the option to customize watch, eg choose between gold or rhodium plate the movement.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f8/guinand-40...pix-158528.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f8/arrival-my...3-a-419038.html


This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 11 2010, 11:38 AM

not everyone have a few Rolex and IWC etc here.
my high sch friend own 50 Rolex and few Pam here and there, how he find all that money. work!
savings U say? no idea, thats his biz not mine.

wat to headache?
its like getting a scratch on a car or scratch on expensive shoes.
headache also like that.

buy expensive stuff and little damage and lose sleep over it.
wow... no life man.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 12 2010, 09:54 AM

well it depends on the degree of headache right?
break up or get divorce also heartache, some lose sleep, some F it or ache for 1hr and start a new life almost ASAP.
no pt asking of will U feel heartache for if it meant little to one.

U maybe elite! may take U a yr to get a PP and still have a load of cash in the bank!!

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 12 2010, 10:08 AM

certainly, if u care way too much U wouldn't get things that is expensive and would get damage if u are careless.
watch scratch, gold ring jewelry scratches, car also scratches, house also get need repairs from time to time. even small things like shoes also get damaged. still U see ppl buying over US$2K shoes.

from your post seem like U will feel the pain for a long time. if u think, even no scratch, value drop every single day, wouldn't that be more heart pain. just walk out from shop and value drop by 30%!!!! that is a kick in the heart man.

many ppl asking for service, so long its mechanical U need to send it for service.
buy an BMW and every 3mths U need to send in for service. Oil get changed, brake pad worn out, etc, value depreciate every single day.
its just life.. look past that boy.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 12 2010, 10:18 AM

if u don't mind get pre own!
its cheaper, 1st owner also absorb the most lost.
its already bang up, so 1 more scratch may not hurt u that much.

high end brands like girard perregaux is cheap esp for vintage watch. usually under RM1K even cheaper than vintage Omega!
for brand new it would cost u at least 10X the amount for an entry level watch. new entry Omega isn't that costly even.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Aug 12 2010, 10:44 AM

yes! thats why u benefit from buying it!
when U sell it again, no way to tell if U are not the 1st owner if U don't say it no one really know.
warranty card usually don't have owner info. At least no one really fill that in.
you lose min amount of $$ when U do sell it again.