http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Spine_crawler bro, 150 is total. 100 + 50

and look at hp and dmg and range comparison. the zealot's advantage = mobility, spine is a defensive structure, and we all know units > structure in general for sc2 (lol mass cannons in sc1)

also, swing timer reset? srsly, zealots full stop to hit, 1 single full stop is enough time for a non upgraded zergling to box the zealot considering its size. the only time where a (group of) zergling couldnt surround is a good entry choke point (why else even toss build pylons/gateways in a way to form a narrower choke point? lol)

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Added on May 18, 2010, 4:31 pm
       

roach > zealots lol. charge upgrade just makes it 'much less painful for the zealots'
but yeah, if zerg is skippin lings for roach, you'd have a couple zealots before he can even get his first ling. safer way for the zerg is to get a 1-2 spines assisted by couple lings before roaches can come out

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Added on May 18, 2010, 5:20 pm

1) did zerg player attempted to box instead of just atk move/atk specific? (refer war3 hero killings wwwwww)
because zergling speed > zealot by a notch with or without upgrades from both sides (and hell if lings got speed upgrade, uncontested lol) so long that basic criteria is achieved (ling speed > zealot) a box is ALWAYS possible with or without the zealots stopping to attack. dont believe? try it yourself.
2) who is the zerg or rather, how much of a skill difference between whitera and that zerg?
3) if whitera is obviously just kiting, why didnt zerg pulled back, or skip pass the zealots to proceed on a worker harass?
4) do you know, that when ur doing all those fancy micro, you do take out a bit of your base building/micro/econ? while unit queues are no problems by hotkeying them, other aspects like placing a god damn pylon/depot/spirewarrenden etc would be hindered a bit
5) *drum rolls*
what is your latency in comparison to theirs?

- zpux vs ace stream you linked, by all means, zpux aint bad, but see how bad he lost that match, get what i mean?
- as mentioned: pull back, gather more and take out the zealots
- as mentioned again: hotkey/keybinding works, however you cannot base build with it and you'd take a couple of seconds (which is crucial on complicated micros) off at least to make a depot for example and those few seconds is more than enough to cause a blunder
- then obviously not good enough as assumingly, you're in malaysia and in malaysia no matter what vpn/battleping/fibreoptic/corporate line/uni line you're using, you're on AT LEAST ~200ish ms latency which is not enough in a lot of situations as opposed to the top players you idolizes so much that typically plays at sub 100ms. case in point: a nice psi-storm on your zerg forces 

exactly, hence you "not lagging" is really far fetched when it comes to higher level micro management. as a matter of fact for me, ive tend to adopt a play style that doesnt rely on micromanagement as much (thank god it aint war3 lol) like avoiding units such as templars/infestors (f*** the hive upgrade, stupid pre-req lol)/ravens and so forth. and to an extent, avoid using melees and favor ranged such as stalkers/roaches

dont get me wrong though, i am by no means saying such play styles is good and in fact it isnt as i am not utilizing everything a race can offer. just that im better off playing something less frustrating, and in a way, more effective to cope with the lag. in a slight off topic WoW speak: mutilate over shadowdance spec thanks to latency

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lol noticed im missing 2 words in the sentence

Anyone know what is the most efficient way to kite and shoot? I use right-click move and hit S when my weapon cooldown is up. Problem is sometimes I won't get a shot off before I have to move again. I dunno if it's latency or my method is not very effective. Like when i'm kiting workers with my reaper, when i gain some distance I hit S, the reaper will turn, it'll get a shot off sometimes but sometimes not, if i wait a lil longer for the shot i'll get hit. So am i doing it wrong and there's a faster way to get your guy to shoot? I thought it might be because S(Stop) might hold your fire for a sec but i tested it on some buildings and spamming S never affected your shooting only movement.

like i said, if ur uni is in msia, no matter how awesome superbly good the line is, it will still be on a bare minimum ~200 latency due to distance

hell, i dont even use vpn/tunnel on my WoW and the latency's 300-400. thats good, however just not enough for some higher level micros in sc2 (or war3, for that matter)

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Added on May 19, 2010, 2:51 pmas for kiting, i use move > s

move > atk + a = 1 more keypress of a + click = unneeded 'lag'

spamming psi storm, gravitron beams, individual blinks etc. just examples

also units are auto aggressive, if you stop, things run, they will chase so long they have initial proximity. example: put an idle zealot, and have a hostile worker run by it wwwwww

stalkers are not able to atk while moving, btw. they need to stop for a brief moment, then they will fire. you may experiment this by spamming move on ur stalker non stop. phoenixes on the other hand are buffed to be able to do just that.

and they say SMM is expensive. guess someone beat them in being evil

well, ive been playing war3 a lot back then and achieved pretty high rankings too with like 60+% winrate of over 700-800 games IINM
and no matter what you'll be at a disadvantage like it or not. the whole psi storm over a MMM/zerg army knowing that you got ur ass handed due to that mere 200 ms latency, is just lol.

my profile is still up btw, on US East bnet with the same name. win % dropped a ton cuz ive been playing now and then in between WoW/other games and with me totally out of shape for war3, the result isnt pleasant at all

huge nerf. before this sentry basically renders units like ultralisks useless. big fat and melee? hello icecubes.
now? ultralisks ignore icecubes and wtfrape sentries.

exactly. it was useless. now they are buffing ultralisks. and nerfing things that makes it useless.

LOL.

Looks like SC2 isnt any different than any other RTS when it comes with balancing.

same could be said to broodlords when they suck total ballz against anything that fly. their speed arent exactly the fastest thing in the game either

For u guys out there who use Battleping + Aunthenticator to play WoW .. beware. Dunno it will happen to Starcraft 2 or not. Maybe it only happen to WoW. Somehow BP might me installing some background shit to hacked WoW acct. Because previously i was using BP to play SC2 .. and then i wannna play WoW .. cant seem to login with my authenticator digits, but whn i restart my pc .. all back to normal.

@Aeco: Do u play WoW using BP or Blizz Authenticator?

Are u talking about the HDH Invitationals or some other tournament?

Damn .. did they show it on ustream .. was waiting for it, dammit.

sibeh the hard wo lol

unless i keep doing hatchery rush/bunker rush/cannon rush

XD XD XD XD

doubt it.. its harder in asia server compared to us... copper still the best ...