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RTS Starcraft 2 V3.0, Anticipated Launching Date July 27, 2010

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post May 11 2010, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 11 2010, 11:51 AM)
Do you guys upload your replays, post it here and I put it on the 1st page.
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Dont use rapidshare/megaupload/mediafire to upload replays.

Use Gamereplays, as they have this feature:

user posted image

If you click the link, it downloads the replay. They wont delete your replays and it will be there for a long long time. It's much more convienient.

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post May 13 2010, 02:58 PM

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The latest TheLittleOne game aginst WhiteRa is awesome.

Time to go back to Random,as there are a couple of good BOs to learn.
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post May 13 2010, 03:16 PM

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Thats good,i can get rid of my failure Cooper league then.
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post May 13 2010, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 03:18 PM)

umm, i dont think it'd quite help, honestly lol.
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Right, i got in Cooper because i lost my placement matches due to disconnect and a lot of bad play with Zerg.


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post May 13 2010, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 03:45 PM)
if ur good, you'll be moved

if ur bad, even if you win all 5-0 in placement, and got in plat, you'd be kicked off anyways, like myself or the other LYN players

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Whatever,but i just not suppose to be in Cooper.
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post May 13 2010, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(DeanKueh @ May 13 2010, 03:54 PM)
sore loser biggrin.gif
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Up to you to say what you want.

I know how well i play,and Cooper shouldnt be the place for me.

Hopefully i'll get promoted soon,as i know my BOs pretty well and able to play decently now. If not, just keep trying Random,so that i get to play Random full time.

I really need to learn how to do a good MMM.
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post May 13 2010, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(melvintcs @ May 13 2010, 04:09 PM)
play more~ win more~ get back your rank rclxms.gif
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Yea,gonna play more now to go Bronze. biggrin.gif

I know a friend of mine who won all 5 placement match is getting pawned a lot in Platinium now.

QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 13 2010, 04:10 PM)
Cheesenium,
you can smurf in cooper league.
ain't that better? lol
pwn the noobs!
also, are there hero units in starcraft?
units that can level up.
have special hero abilities etc.
no?
then how are they gonna make dota sc2?
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Not a fan of smurfing,to be honest. I want to play with better players so that i can improve.

If you look at the Hotkeys Configuration, there are Heroes and Inventory in the game.Just that it's not in the beta now, i assumed. I doubt DotA gonna come back to SC2,as Icefrog is in Valve now and there are tonnes of MOBA games like HoN, DotA(WC3), Demigod, LoL and not to forget Valve's one.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 04:12 PM)
you can check the replay i posted, theres FOUR people doing MMM, although 2 of em are kinda bad (well they lost so duh lol)
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After watching Idra's Zerg, im getting a good idea how to play Zerg now. Terran is the problem.

Other than MMM, is there any other build for Terran? Reaper Rush? MM+ Hellion,then Siege? Thor + Marauder? Tried to do Viking + Banshee,but got pawned badly. Who's VoD do you recommend me to watch for Terran? I know WhiteRa is for Protoss(and his playstyle fits my style), and Idra for Zerg.

The thing that make me fall into Cooper League is because of my foolishness of playing Random on Ranked straight away when i got the Beta.Almost every Terran or Zerg game got pawned because i dont know what to do. Im doing well with Protoss so far,though. Learning how to do WhiteRa's 4 Warp Gate rush. Been pawning them so far,as everyone in Cooper wants to rush Broodlord/Voidray/Carrier/Battlecruiser or just wall themselves up.

Now, i need a few more BOs that is similar to 4 Warp Gate rush for Terran and Zerg.
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post May 13 2010, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(mylife4nerzhul @ May 13 2010, 04:17 PM)
terran = mmm

zerg = roach/hydra

protoss = sentry/immortal/stalker

boring
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Not really, some really creative BOs has come out recently.

Like the silly Queen Rush.

QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 13 2010, 04:23 PM)
NonY's phoenixes say hi!
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That one,too hard to do. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 13 2010, 04:30 PM)
The other terran build order will be ThorShip build ... but very seldom see that edy biggrin.gif
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I thought it's more like a Reaver drop or something?

Maybe could try but it's obvious like crazy as everyone can see that giant box under it.

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post May 13 2010, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 04:41 PM)
thats for people in the copper/bronze/silver leagues. yes, static boring strats. dont get you far in sc2 TBH

im in silver/gold (2v2 plat with aftersteps, though id say we're gonna drop really soon tongue.gif)
and i can assure you, my BO/units etc changes games after games.
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I think he still have the impression of the early Beta where the balance was quite bad that made Roach,MMM and Stalker/Sentry blob are probably the only variable BO.

Balance has improved a lot,IMO,to promote different BOs each game.

Been changing mine for each game now,as certain things like going robo or Stargate are quite situational.

QUOTE(Damian @ May 13 2010, 04:41 PM)
Okey~ quick question.
How much would be the SC2 Box Set price?
estimate?
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RM248. Quite steep for a game.

Get it from Amazon if you want the Beta Key now.

Havent got my extra one yet. :/
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post May 13 2010, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Damian @ May 13 2010, 04:51 PM)
should i buy the SC 2 DVD Box set now? or wait until it release?
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If you want, get it from Amazon then,so that you get the Beta Key now.

Or,if you dont mind waiting, you can just wait for the boxset.
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post May 13 2010, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 04:54 PM)
if hes not suitable in plat, hed be kicked just like us ^^;
and if ur not a fan of smurfing, sc2's system is pretty 'perfect'.

for terran, other than MMM, theres always mechanized builds, air builds or mixups to play with. the recent terran replays showed quite a lot of insights and how-to's along with its inherited flaws etc etc. as for helions, unless ur micro is DAMN GOOD, and can get em in reaper speeds etc and you're NOT facing terran, forget it. the only use i can think of for them is worker rape via aoe + range/fast speeds. OR, if enemy is running melees like zealot/zerglings (also, not terran rofl)

for VODs, i know theres a lot of tarson playing terran, and some TLO i guess... day9 did a good cover on terran doing non MMM builds with a terran vs terran mirror and both going different builds (do watch that if you hate MMM like i do lol)

also, you in copper isnt entirely due to random/dc. lets say ur in ur perfect line condition/playing only protoss, the max youd be would be around silver (i would assume/estimate) even if ur placed in plat by winning all 5. do note, even if you win ALL 5 games it may not place you in plat as the placement also uses other factors to determine ur placing. i know this for a fact that ive played with other LYN player in 2v2 and we won all 5 games and still place into gold.

put it this way: good players, know the game inside out, and while he may not play random, he would know/understand all races like the back of his hand. (for a good reason to) You atm are weak on terran/zerg as you pointed out yourself. lets say you play protoss and you face say, terran/zerg, would you have ALL possible scenarios going through your head during game loading/as game progress and have a solution/answer for all of them when your game start/progress through?

like i said, if you're really good, you'd be moved to avoid noob stomping as the system is meant sole for one thing: putting people where they belong and everyone can have a great time (and challenge, like you wanted)


Added on May 13, 2010, 4:57 pm

and thats the thing that are common in blizz, even the slightest tweak of -1 armor from roach, can go a looooooong way in promoting a balanced and competitive game play and lol esport
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The matchmaking is still quite bugged so far, from what i heard.

Im not saying i hate MMM build, but i just want more builds before i play more Terran, in case MMM doesnt work suddenly and im left there not knowing what else that could be effective to do. Mixing a bit Mech seem to be the way to go so far.

Im not saying im good,as i have pretty much stopped RTS after RA3, as RTS games are getting a bit too stale for me. Except DoW2 after 1.5. So,there are quite a fair bit to catch up for me as im quite rusty now.

I know why im in Copper, mostly because i dont have a clue at all with Zerg and Terran during placement. Also, probably the skill factor as you have point out,as i heard Battlenet also takes account of things like how much floating minerals you have or your average APM before putting you in a league. I expected to be on Silver, max,as Gold players are much better than me in every way. I have played with Gold players and i know im not up to their standard,and probably rage if the matchmaking put me in Gold after reset. lol.

Could you give the link for Day[9]'s VoD? SC Legacy's one kinda suxs,as they arent technical enough nor as entertaining as Husky or HD.


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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 13 2010, 04:58 PM)
phoenixes is very easy...
go watch day[9]'s analysis of phoenix...
tested it and its not hard ^.^
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I thought going full Phoenix is quite a risky BO,as they arent good if you dont have enough of them.

It's entertaining to watch,by the way.

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post May 13 2010, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(Damian @ May 13 2010, 05:17 PM)
Anyone know what are we getting inside the SC 2 Box Set?
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A disc, a black and white manual and a box.

Standard stuff.

CE,probably cost a bomb.
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post May 13 2010, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 13 2010, 05:39 PM)
The HD invitational match against WhiteRA vs TLO .. and guess who won and goes to the finals

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Damnit.
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post May 13 2010, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 06:01 PM)
i hate it cuz its like the most solid thing a terran player can do especially if hes aggressive/rushes/hate long games lol

and yes, the placement does indeed take other things into factor besides the 5 wins. and i think its good blizzard isnt revealing the entirety of how the system work so people wont abuse it (eg: smurfing)

oh for that TVT match:
http://www.livestream.com/striderdoom/vide...e4-646a79519c16
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Well,i know how to smurf now. It isnt hard.

Thanks a lot,by the way.
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post May 13 2010, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 13 2010, 10:34 PM)
1/33 no?
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No,

(1/3)x(1/3)x(1/3)=1/27
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post May 14 2010, 10:47 AM

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Finally,no more crash when you exit. biggrin.gif
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post May 14 2010, 05:04 PM

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I like the new Thor size. Much smaller now.
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post May 14 2010, 10:10 PM

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How do i beat mass Marauders with Protoss?

Use Colossus?
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post May 14 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(windboy @ May 14 2010, 10:34 PM)
ermm, how about zealot+stalker+sentry+immortal?
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Doesnt really work.

Too many Marauders, but it's also partly my fault for going air than Colossus.

QUOTE(Moonflown @ May 14 2010, 10:56 PM)
Yes they will, with charge ability researched.

Collossus are not that good against marauder when they stim up.

Unless you block them with force field therefore your army should always composed of different units.

Besides, you guys forgot about hard counter of marauder: Immortal
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I dont think Immortal is effective with tonnes of Marauders.

Maybe HT is the best for mass land.

I sux at Sentry too. sad.gif
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QUOTE(teongpeng @ May 15 2010, 06:47 PM)
this game sucks. it doesnt feel any different to starcraft. just bigger. A let down by blizzard's standard of creating sequels that takes genres to new heights.
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Dont play against AI. Instead, play against humans.

It feels like a shit game when you play against the useless AI,while it's pretty fun against humans.

QUOTE(frags @ May 15 2010, 07:19 PM)
If we've learnt something from the whole Modern Warfare 2 debacle, he'll probably be the first person to buy Starcraft 2  doh.gif
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Im probably the one who b**** about it the most.

Didnt get it even till now.

The matchmaking is pretty nice,though. Except when you end up with hackers.

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