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a_sim
post Jun 15 2011, 03:45 PM

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ok brought all my tortoises to Dr. S.Vellayan last nite and confirmed the watery eyes leos having middle stage RNS. Need to inject every alternate day up to 10 days.
All of them also need to de-worm because they infected by oxyuris and ameba cry.gif
Some more dr said oxyuris is sucking tortoise blood, worry the one with RNS too weak and cant make it cry.gif

All of my tortoise are male according to dr doh.gif .. kena con by seller said one male one female ish vmad.gif
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post Jun 15 2011, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Prince of Darkness @ Jun 15 2011, 04:34 PM)
Nice tort you have there.
Care to share the price for a 6"? PM if inconvinent.
My male had RNS when I 1st got him. On anti biotic for 7days via inject. Isolated for close to a mth. After that recovered. Take note on their diet and temp.
Are yours all 4 being house together?
Thought of bringing mine for de-worm but advice given was no need to unless systom arise.
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QUOTE(CreepyCrawly @ Jun 15 2011, 04:21 PM)
Hi bro,

Where is the loc of Dr Vellayan? can i have his phone num? Is he the Vet in the national zoo lastime? ( jus in case any of my tort fall sick in future  tongue.gif )

Lastime my leo tort oso went for injection, but THEY dint make it. (but my leo are small)

Good luck bro
Oh ya, what med he giv for de-worm?
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yupe he is the one. Now he is a lecturer so he only available at nite if weekday:)

Dr.S.Vellayan (call him before you go)
Mobile: 6013-6246918
Home: 603-41085530
Add: 10, Jalan L2, Taman Melawati, KL (house + Clinic)

I'm not sure on the de-worm medication name but is powder form.
Now the other 3 of my tort also on nostril drop just for prevention until the sick tort fully recovered but when they are on medication they not really eat. sad.gif

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post Jun 16 2011, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(CreepyCrawly @ Jun 15 2011, 07:31 PM)
thanks bro, this is the experienced vet i m looking for :-)

how do u apply the nostril drop by the way? I always wonder if we drop the medicine, does it really go into their nostril since the hole is so small?
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hold the tort 45 or 90 degree up then put a drop of medicine in each nostril. using a container/box about ur tort size and put in some cloth to hold ur tort in the same position for about 10 minutes to make sure the medicine goes in. Your tort sure will struggle to come out but try to push it back to that position, during the pushing process some how they breath and the medicine will goes in lo laugh.gif

If you dun have any container/box to hold it you can just hold it by ur hand(but tired la:p) and try to push the behind legs to make the same effect... errrr i hope u able to understand my poor explanation whistling.gif

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post Jun 20 2011, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(iminuru @ Jun 18 2011, 04:52 AM)
I'm pretty sure the g.elegans were females
The two g.pardalis should be females too. ( judging from their plastrons and tails ) may not be correct, just guessing.
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hahaha.. thank you iminuru:)....

Vets said all male i also doubt so:)... but one of the g.elegans start showing his little thing while i dry him after soaking. So is really hard to tell now:D.
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post Jun 21 2011, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(CreepyCrawly @ Jun 20 2011, 03:31 PM)
How's the leo tort? getting better?
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one more jap to go... yesterday dr said 50% recover already. If last jap still not fully recover then need to continue using nostril drop twice a day...
but but but yesterday i found one gross thing which is his SH*T full with oxyurid worms doh.gif .... SOO the scary bcoz at the same time i also let all my tort take de-wormer...

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post Jun 21 2011, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(CreepyCrawly @ Jun 21 2011, 10:50 AM)
when are u going again?
mayb u can help me buy some de-worm medicine :-)
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Haha.. i will go again on this coming wednesday lo... you need powder form one or liquid one? Powder one easier, just mix with the food then can liao but depends on ur tort like it or not because my star tort seems not like it so i need to get the liquid one and use syringe FORCE them drink... very messy doh.gif
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post Jun 27 2011, 11:59 AM

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Hmm today last day and i have yet to get permit for my leos because some told me just keep the receipt from seller as license. Is that true? with the receipt from seller means i got the permit to keep them? icon_question.gif
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post Jun 27 2011, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jun 27 2011, 01:08 PM)
you should've just applied for keeping permit when you first got the receipt, would've saved you the hassle of doing the declaration.

the receipt is not a license, it just proves that you got your animals from a legal source. you would still need a permit.

what you need to do now is go to your respective wildlife office and ask them whether you can still apply for a keeping permit using the receipt, or if you need to make a declaration under 716. bring along photocopies of your IC and the receipt.
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Hmmm...thank you for your help:)
means keeping permit and declaration under 716 is totally different thing?... okok i will try to call them...

but how come the seller ask me not to apply for the permit, just keep the receipt will do and if anything happen just called the seller directly they will settle for me heeee.... dilemma now ish shakehead.gif
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jun 27 2011, 03:13 PM)
well, declaration under 716 is a process to get animals recognized, recorded and legalized in order to issue license for keeping them. in your case, the animals itself are legal but you still haven't got the permission to keep them.

the liability is yours since the animals would be in your premise under your charge. the seller could not be charged since he sold it legally. him failing to tell his buyers to get a license is not an offense under the law if he already provided a valid receipt as per required by Section 44 of Act 716.

but the buyer (you) is liable to be charged for possession of animals without a valid license under section 60 of Act 716 (50k/2 years prison). even failing to provide a license upon demand by a wildlife officer in itself is an offense under Section 17 of 716 (10k/6 months jail).

i guess you know the story about anson wong and the 95 confiscated boas that led to his imprisonment right? those boas came from a legal source with documents, like in your case, the animals themselves are legal.  what led to his arrest, confiscation and subsequent punishment is the fact that he didn't have a permit to get the boas over to Indonesia. (as per required under Section 10 of Act 686).
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ok to be safe i think i better declare also...
just called up wildlife cheras to ask for the extension, they said CHINESE newspaper said got extension but they did not receive any black and white from the head quarter....i said i not able to go today for the registration and they allow me to go some other days as long as i have the receipt...or they can help me to add in leos species into my previous declaration form back in april 2011...

but one of my fren is going to register his sulcata and he trying to help me to register for my leos... hopefully everything just run smoothly.... wish me luck rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 28 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Azazel @ Jun 28 2011, 01:08 PM)
Camille knows the law so much so that he is from the inside (ie Perhilitan). He's here to watch us. Beware! smile.gif
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Huh serious shocking.gif ....
anyway he did help alot in TTT all these while so i believe that he is here for good thumbup.gif
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post Jun 29 2011, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(walala77 @ Jun 29 2011, 01:37 PM)
but cooters, red belies so look alike...wanna keep a galapagos one... biggrin.gif
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Hey visited xortic ranch last nite and just now....

They have alot alot of exotic pet there... if you would like to find tortoise or turtle, you can visit there... they have like

hinge back tortoise - The shop owner said adult already and ready for mating;), about 6-8" i think
Taiwanese turtle - more than 3"
Side neck turlte - more than 3"
etc (1-2 more species i dunno the name:))

happy hunting icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 29 2011, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(walala77 @ Jun 29 2011, 03:55 PM)
im at mlake lor... cry.gif
anyone know any shop at mlake that sell exo pet... icon_question.gif
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if you like those species i mentioned i will say is worth to drive from Melaka to KL wink.gif ...
Then you can visit other pet shop also to get other species like elongated tortoise, sulcata, mata-mata (not sure sold already or not) unsure.gif
but make sure check with them on the permit stuff
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post Jun 29 2011, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(CreepyCrawly @ Jun 29 2011, 04:35 PM)
xortic ranch ---> where is this ?


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xortic ranch ---> where is this ?
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Here you go:) http://xorticranch.com/
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post Jun 29 2011, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(CreepyCrawly @ Jun 29 2011, 05:12 PM)
new shop?

got any frog there?
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Ish out of so many u ask for frog ah:)... frog there dun hav.. ikano tat one got few tree frogs (quite big liao) and left one pac-man.. that was like a week ago i went there:)

Dun tell me u r into them also? if yes i really wan to visit ur place liao coz i like them but still not ready to keep them...to me they not really active muahahhaha...
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post Jun 29 2011, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(CreepyCrawly @ Jun 29 2011, 06:04 PM)
Dun have time to go la

nextime u go let me know, help me buy n keep in ur place 1st, haha
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buy wat buy wat? pac-man ah? tree frog??

can can can... almost every weekend also visit pet shop one.. but pac-man they put those moss (those to keep moist one) in there and i saw got live worms in there.. i CONFIRM is not their food...

anyway tell me wat you wan and i buy u pay i keep... DEAL!!!

Sorry hah.. abit out of topic whistling.gif

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post Jun 30 2011, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jun 29 2011, 07:58 PM)
what is Taiwanese turtle? Ocadia sinensis?
Yup, look like that:)...

QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jun 30 2011, 06:30 AM)
a_sim, i second the fact that they don't do well in captivity.

those Bell's and Forest are WC specimens, their shipment came in February along with those sidenecks, ball pythons and a few others (now you can guess from where smile.gif).

those hingebacks had been in the fiber tank since.
Hmmm... not very sure how they get it:)... but the shop owner always advise me to get proper document for my pets....he is a very nice guy.. willing to share some of his story/ experience heee icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Jun 30 2011, 05:50 AM)
a_sim
Your so-call Taiwanese Turtle are they like what I have posted ? If so they are Ocadia sinensis .
Not really check the whole turtle but their neck cover with golden string lines like the species you and camillenoir mentioned blush.gif

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post Jun 30 2011, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jun 30 2011, 01:36 PM)
send our regards to ah tung, uncle and auntie next time LOL.
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Sure sure... but wat i should say??? "camillenoir" sends regards heee... they know who one hoh?
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post Jun 30 2011, 01:52 PM

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then wat name i should use brows.gif

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post Jun 30 2011, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(a_sim @ Jun 29 2011, 03:00 PM)
Hey visited xortic ranch last nite and just now....

They have alot alot of exotic pet there... if you would like to find tortoise or turtle, you can visit there... they have like

hinge back tortoise (~RM280) - The shop owner said adult already and ready for mating;), about 6-8" i think
Taiwanese turtle (Not for sale) - more than 3" (his own collection)
Side neck turlte (~RM120) - more than 3"
mata-mata  (~RM700) - ~6"


happy hunting icon_rolleyes.gif
huhuhu~ correction on the above ttt list...paiseh paiseh blush.gif

QUOTE(Azazel @ Jun 30 2011, 02:37 PM)
Gayboy.
lagi tak kenal cool2.gif
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post Jul 1 2011, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jun 30 2011, 06:25 PM)
i'm sure that they will recognize it if you mention farid ibrahim.
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sure sure... will send ur regards if i go again;)...

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