A golf course should be at least 18 holes but the best is the 36 hole ones. There are also 27 and 45 hole ones I think.

DPC is indeed admirable. I should have bought the first phase (same with Bandar Utama. The standard house was about RM180k then. I thought expensive but it was standard 22x75. My friend bought. now worth over 1million).

The guards at DPC are good (they would tabik ume every time I enter or leave LOL) but could be a bit high-handed. One evening after exercise I was about to go but stopped at a proper rest area to eat a fruit before dinner. A guard came over to tell me to move on. The traffic was so clear,I was not blocking anybody so what was the big deal? He said, Boss marah. I got pissed off so I said, Panggil boss mari. He left me alone after that LOL. One thing good - once I pointed out to a guard a lady who did not pick up her dog's poo. Straight away he told her to please pick it up. They even provide the plastic bags. I don't like dog's hair,their licks,their bark so I don't rear any dogs and cats (cat's poo is the worst. The neighbour's cat liked to poo in my garden so we throw orange/lemon skin around and he stopped coming (cats don't like the smell of citrus). They look for earth bcs they must cover their poo with earth (there's a story behind this but I wonder if there's any logic in it haha). Anyway,it's better to take care of your parents if they're still around than to become a slave to dogs. Taking care of a baby is even better bcs they will grow up and take care of us in our old age. The big dogs can at least guard the house. Those toy/miniature ones are exactly like babies. Let other people be suckers if they want to. Why do I want to pick up dog's poo? But then dogs are perfect companions to the blind.

The developer charge the buyers of DPC so much bcs of the landscaping but the prop owners have to share the lake (water there is clean bcs they had cleaned up the lake so KE must do the same. The water is quite clear) and the jogging tracks with the public. I think it's bcs management earns from parking and the businesses there can't survive if the public are not allowed in. Even the grocery at Top Value (also owned by Aeon) are more expensive than goods sold at Aeon. I hope KE can try to emulate DPC to a certain extent.

Hey Chris,

Dun call me boss lah. Malu lah. I'm also a struggling investor like you all. I'm happy making a small humble profit. If you go Gentings and make RM20 it is better than losing RM20. Just liddat.

Your para 3 showed I've confused you. Sorry. I read the sentence in brackets again and realized that you all surely would be confused. I was talking about Bandar Utama. I especially regret not going in the BU one when it first started. I went to the site office to look at the model etc. Imagine getting a 22x80 landed prop for less than RM200k then. If only we all have foresight. It's now the same with KE and Anggun,even BCH. People who doubt might regret in 10 years down the road.That I am quite positive. In 10 years KE and Anggun would be like BU today or even better.

DPC has to build 3 storey bcs it's small. Even the gasman complained that it was difficult for him to send gas to the kitchen LOL. The minimum width of a house should be at least 22' but it's of course so much better if it's more than 22'. That's why people build bungalows of 30' wide or wider. A house need not be too long but must be wider. Besides the cannot brain price haha the only thing that puts me off DPC house is the built-up. For RM4m you can get a reasonably spacious bungalow in Tropicana I presume. Good surroundings too. People would never believe that an address in Kepong could be so prestigious. I tabik the developer as it's really committed. This is how one builds up a reputation. Can't believe the price is still on an upward spiral there. When it touched Rm2m I thought this is crazy. Now...Who would think that buying at RM1m could still make you another 2-2.5m? The tenants could afford such high rentals bcs the rentals are paid by their companies as they are considered expatriates.

The sugar glider is so cute but they are expensive to buy. One might cost you around Rm400? And you need a pair or the lone ranger might die of loneliness LOL. Their cage and accessories are expensive too. They need fresh fruit everyday so might cost you quite a bit every month bcs you need to keep a pair and also they need other types of food to keep healthy. If you've young children it could be worth it bcs you could teach them so many things - responsibility, caring for a life,kindness etc. It's better you give your kids specific duty in caring for them or in the end you and missus end up doing all the work.

If you let them glide in the open will they fly away? I don't want animals bcs I want to travel. Keeping animals and planting flowers etc that need daily watering are impediments to total freedom.

Is there a driving range in KE now? Besides the golf course in Kundang and Templer's where else do they have golf courses in Rawang? I think 18 holes are good enough bcs 36 holes take up too much land. Anyway,such places benefit only the rich who can afford the game. Therefore,we should not allow too many golf courses.

100% agree. I just wrote in the last paragraph of my last post and saw that you're saying the same thing. A park would benefit everybody,young old,rich or poor.

Money,man. No profit no talk. Business is liddat. In 3-4 years should be just nice for me.

Only 8 years. See positive lah. The road outside BCH still not yet expand and those who have been staying for 20 years at BCH are still waiting so what is 8 years LOL. It take a generation before MY'n businesses or authorities can act.

MR has to impress potential buyers. Also,their project is deeper in but of course when the other highway is ready then their project will be a sell-out. If they dare put their prices so high it means they know can sell. Look at DPC. the demand is like no end.

I think they will build a commercial centre. The location is near the sale gallery. Actually not really necessary once Anggun City is up with banks etc.

There will be. I dah tanya lah. Buy sepotong roti no need to go Anggun City lar but I think all the banks will be there but there will be shops in EW. Relax,bro.

Eh bro,where exactly are these new shop lots? I thought Guocoland will be building the KE commercial centre in EW,next to the sales gallery. That's what they told me some time ago.

Thanks. Hope one of the taikors staying at KE or nearby please kindly drop by the sales gallery at EW and ask if the KE commercial centre would still be built,tq. And pl let us know here. If got better bcs like penggunabaik said tak kan want to buy sepotong roti also have drive to the commercial hub.

Looks Anggun City/Aeon and the vicinity would be the new commercial hub of Rawang. Good for property owners at EW,BCH and surrounding areas.

I think he was taking about buying massimo or gardenia LOL.

Over RM500k for 20x65? Must be mad LOL If 24x80 can consider. This is Rawang wor and the project is so far in. I won't buy a 20' house. It's so congested and 65' is too short. If the design is very good short is not too bad but wide is always an issue. I won't settle for anything less than 22'. MS' prices are always higher than other developers' e.g. their Icon Residence (condo project) is just next to the main road and hemmed in by a secondary school and the kensington park houses yet the price of a one-room studio apt cost more than a million when they first launched the project at the end of 2010. They call the location kiara but it's actually near the Malay kampung of segambut dalam or segambut something.

Doesn't look like bubble at all,looking at such crazy prices. But global slowdown that is affecting India and China (also Argentina?) is affecting us now. Share market has been falling all week. Our money getting weaker,falling badly against SGD. I hope we aren't going into a recession. But resale difficult to sell at market value. Banks more cautious giving out loans now. Developers still doing roaring business? Easier to get loans from developers' panel of bankers I guess. They have the advantage of having a panel and of bulk business.

18x70? Sheer madness. If 16 it's just as wide as a badminton court.

The town ship is deep in. I wouldn't even consider 20',left alone 18'. I'd rather have a bigger and more comfortable house with less facilities or none at all though a new modern facade should be nice.

I think around there only. If it's 22x70 then the price could be the same as the 20x70 of coral. I always look for a wider house.

Hi Jason,

What actually are you talking about 2.5% and 2.5%?I'm a bit confused here. Isn't that the final 5% payment our bank holds back for one year bcs the developer will have to meet our claims for poor workmanship for a year? If you're paying cash for the house I guess you'll only pay the developer a year after VP. However,since most people take loans the bank will be holding the final 5% so I guess it shouldn't worry any buyer or should it? Thx

Yeah,the bank will hold and then release 2.5% after I think 6mths of handing over of VP and the remaining 2.5% a year after VP. Even thought they have not released the last 5% by VP day the interest of 95% and 5% have all been worked out in their formula. I guess it would take a qualified actuarist to be able to work out how banks charge interest.

How did you know your bank released all the 5% on VP day?

Oh now I know. It's like this - our bank releases it to our S&P lawyer. They hold it in trust for the developer. Our S&P lawyer is also our developer's lawyer so it's like a "con" job. So it's considered the bank having released 100% of our loan.

If the loan amount is small,say RM200k the 5% is only RM5k so the lawyer won't earn so much interest. But they get 5% from so many buyers. That's why we dun have to pay the legal fees for signing the S&P for lots of projects I guess. Imagine if the loan amount is huge e.g RM1 million. The 5% is RM50k. And we're paying interest to the bank for that amount for that one year. Lawyers make far more from such funds held in trust than what they would charge for doing the S&P which is only drawn up once. They use the same S&P over and over again by just changing the buyer's details. In fact the same S&P can be used for many other projects by changing certain details only according to each project's specifications.

Lawyers make the most if they take on such commercial conveyancing compared to taking civil or criminal cases. The only thing is they must hook up with the developers. That's why in the event of a conflict our lawyer is also our developer's lawyer so you see the conflict of interest. They will always side with the developer who gives them the business bcs they make millions with each project. In order to save costs and hasten the process all buyers are encouraged (in fact they sirt of make it compulsory) to use the developer's lawyer and most of us use the same lawyer naturally bcs it saves us the legal fees. If the developer plays us out we will never win. Malaysian prop buyers are actually suckers bcs of the current system where developers are in control. Buyers should all gang up to employ their own lawyer. In the US I think buyers and sellers are not allowed to use the same lawyer bcs of conflict in interest.