Maybe malai ren on the job lar,dat's why do work like "hidup segan,mati tak mau" liddat.

I agree,all show no go. Last time not liddat jialat. Hong Bee built my house then Gouco took over but by then all done dy. Still if we write to ask about something NEVER reply wan lar. Damn lembaba wan. Next time better buy from Hong Bee.

Where are the actual locations of Coris and Cassis? Thx

LOL dun know where is Coral also.

Hi,just your luck to get this type of guy who appointed himself as RA president LOL. His position cannot be valid and should be declared null and void by the residents. Hold a proper AGM and vote for a proper president. There must be a proper committee.

Better be careful about the cow slaughter thingy bcs anything related to their precious and only true religion is out of bounds and considered sensitive. They can always turn around and accuse you of being anti-the-official religion of the country. As far as their religion is concerned I am hands-off and don't wanna make unnecessary comments.

Regarding security,I can assure you it is the industry itself which made it kind of "mandatory" for every housing project,in fact every phase or even road to have such a service and they don't come cheap. In the first place,do they provide the real service? Are we safe and our property secure? The people in the industry made having security guards a necessity bcs I believe they were the ones who set the thieves and robbers out to frighten residents and to make their business lucrative.

The guards know everything about every resident/house. It is even more dangerous than having no guards. It's really like "harapkan pagar,pagar makan padi". The gov has to overhaul the whole security business. Who are the guards in the first place? I think the Nepalese are a safer bet or am I wrong too? Does anybody on this forum have an intimate knowledge of the security fraternity? Thx

I hate this auto answering machines. These days there's no such thing as service. Many have complained and recently I read it in The Star yet nothing has been done. Once I got so mad with RHB Bank bcs of this answering machine. I was ready to screw anybody who answered my call but luckily nobody did. Nowadays banks charge for all kinds of services yet the service they provide is fit for the cesspool. Ambank quietly charges a lot. Check out your bank's website and see what are the hidden charges. They never tell us anything but suddenly you see why debit Rm.. here and Rm.. there. No wonder banks make so much RM10 per person p.a. is enough.

Guocoland's security charges are very high. Of course,the RA can be set up asap once you all get your keys. However,you must also beware bcs these so-called committees could behave like terrorists too. The members could be very high handed. They set rules as they deem fit,to suit their own ends.

Initially what they did on the day you get VP/handing over of keys was to make every purchaser of that particular phase sign an agreement saying you agree to a certain fee per month for security. That amount is automatically deducted from the amount of 8% they compensate for late hand-over of VP.

Then after the first year it's automatic renewal,like it or not. I can tell you that Guocoland can be really high-handed. I did not want to pay the second year's security bcs the fees were really high. Like it or not you still have to pay if you decide to sell your property b4 the individual title is out bcs they must approve the sale. Alternatively,when it's time to apply for the memorandum of transfer of title from the master title to your name you still have to settle the fees with them bcs the amount you owe them is never deleted. If you dun pay they will not do their part and you can't get your title out.

So every which way you turn you lose. Therefore,there is strength in number,just like instituting a class action suit. If all or a majority of the purchasers of that particular phase protest the high fees charged they will stop the service. It wasn't any good bcs I lost quite a lot of fixtures like shower heads and tap heads but what they gave were not really quality stuff anyway. There was a time when iron and steel were so expensive,the thieves even removed those little steel covers which cover the drainage holes in bathrooms etc. They only could not remove the steel cover outside the gates bcs it was fixed to the ground. At one time if you did not fix it to the ground they would steal that too and if you dun notice you might fall into the hole and injure yourself in the drain or worse get stuck there if you're big.

The residents can just not set up an RA or get any security service. It's really up to all the purchasers. Security service is really an eye-wash bcs it's really like "harapkan pagar,pagar makan padi". It was people in the industry who set out the thieves and robbers so that everywhere people have to make use of such a service. From non-necessity security service has now become a given. The guards survey every house so the best is not to let them know so much about you bcs they will just blab about one resident to another.

This post has been edited by TheOwl: Nov 21 2013, 04:04 AM

The first year after getting our keys it was just auto RM900 deduction from the compensation amount. They even prepared the cheque ready minus the RM900. At that time RM75 for security services was exorbitant. Then they auto renewed the second year. Bcs a majority of the purchasers protested they stopped the service after the second year. I've still not paid the RM900 incurred during the second year and my account shows I'm still owing the amount plus whatever quit rent I haven't reimbursed them. So if want to get out the title or want to sell b4 the title must clear this hutang first. Suka tak suka,we can't win.

If they make you sign to agree to security service all purchasers dun sign bcs they will make money from us. Set up your own RA and get your own security service. However,you dun know the other purchasers. Some want to get into the committee to hold "power" bcs they have their own agenda. They take care of the service and they get a kickback or they themselves could be in the business. I know of some RA committees which are not even registered but behave like they own the area. I call such people terrorists bcs they harass those few houses that dun want to pay. This is a voluntary thing. Nobody can force anybody to pay. Some of the residents might have fallen into hard times so let them be. I'm sure they would resume paying once they recover from their hardship. The RA has no legal right no authority to prevent such residents from going in and out of the area bcs they have to go home,go to work etc. The very fact the bar is there is already against the law,strictly speaking. Some have resorted to dirty tactics like hanging the addresses of houses that did not pay or were late in paying the fees on the bar which I feel is in very bad taste.

This phenomenon of using guard services has become a cancer in our society. It's like setting thieves to run free in your neighbourhood.

Lim,btw when it's time to apply for your title you still must pay or else they will not do the necessary papers which your lawyer will request from them. Anyway,Guocoland is slower than a snail. It's a slow loris. Even the purchasers of the very first project which started in 2001 have not got their individual titles yet. Go talk to the botak guy (looks like one silly guy manning the whole office. This office can't do anything. They only sell and receive payment. They are like insurance companies which will tell you all over their web pages how to pay your premiums but NEVER how to claim) who doesn't know anything and would tell you to find out everything from their head office.

This post has been edited by TheOwl: Nov 21 2013, 03:18 PM

Price increase for what?

These "thieves" know it's troublesome for purchasers to complain and follow up as most of them are working people. That's why all this high handedness.

Maintenance for landed props simply means security service. The best is call for an informal meeting of all the purchasers. If not enuf space at your house just do it at the jogging area at the lake this Sunday. Nobody should sign the 2nd year agreement. If people refuse to pay they will stop the service. Set up your own RA. What phase is yours,Coral? Is it next door to Amberly? Yesterday I saw Amberly which is Section 9 and in front of the office is Section 13 but forgot the name. Do it fast and all purchasers must protest,refuse to pay. I kena 2 years,cost me RM1800. These companies think we pluck money from trees,can arbitrarily just raise charges.

The JB majlis bandaran wanted to raise the quit rent/cukai tanah and assessment/cukai pintu by 260% and Bandaraya by 300%. Tengku Adnan said fair. Fair his FAT FACE! In KL I kena,in JB I will also kena. Damn sien. Harap2 Selangor no bcs I remember a few years back MPS raised a bit dy. If Penang and Melaka raise I kena also.

They raise petrol price and take away sugar subsidy still not enuf. When Robert Kuok owned the sugar business that time half sen oso refused to let him raise. As soon as they "robbed" the business from him they raised the price immediately. The reasons they gave were just "talk 3,talk 4". If they care so much for the rakyat's health why when Robert Kuok owned the business he was never allowed to raise by even half a sen? This withdrawal of sugar subsidy is the second or third rise in price. Now the teh tarik at gerai also costs RM1.50

They songlap not enuf yet. This disease of songlap has become their culture dy, Why gov so much deficit? It's bad governance. The white man was right - natives truly are incapable of self-rule. Have to brace ourselves for more price increases next year. After GST comes into effect it would get worse. They're telling the rakyat to get used to rising prices but the way they spend public funds it's as if it's their money.

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This post has been edited by TheOwl: Dec 11 2013, 09:36 PM

Developers dun care whether you've moved in or not. To make their work easier they just charge every owner. Like it or not you can't escape bcs when it comes to applying for our title they won't sign the papers if we still owe them money. The same goes if you wanna sell. They won't agree bcs it's still under master title. See,whichever way we lose.

I agree. Is da land a china company? If China better be careful. MY'n company is already bad enough. Developers talk big when launching. Later,for the price we pay the finished product is african-class (those blackies will kill me if they read this and can find me )

Look at your S&P. I was paid 8% but not for cassis. It was for a very early project.

Anyone interested in the zero-lots? The call it the Rise LOL but not The Rice bcs if buy then no rice to eat.

The exclusive preview is from tomorrow to 16/2 from 9am-6pm. I'm sure all KE house-owners received their invitation. I might drop by just to see the response but can't afford to invest. I think a decent lot would be over RM1mil. Dun want to over-expose.

They are giving an exclusive package. Must be a discount lar what else,considering the soft market at the moment. They should have called it The Heights or like you suggested bcs The Rise is no good. People are so pissed off with rising prices in everything this year and we are just into the second month of 2014 only.

Yo,like money grows on trees liddat. Must get some money plant trees from the ministers' and deputy ministers' wives to plant. It seems they do a lot of planting on their huge bungalow plots.

If starting at 1.8m,then a decent lot will surely cost at least 2m. For a 4ksf piece of land?

This post has been edited by TheOwl: Feb 12 2014, 05:11 PM

Aiyoh,I had many errands today and only managed to go after 5pm. They are really cunning. The SA told me yesterday itself some buyers went with ready cheques so they sold a few ytd itself. Only 3 ds! This one will only officially launch next week. The next launch will be on higher land. They will open a few each time and keep pushing up the price like what they did with the other KE houses. The 6% discount is bcs of the soft market I think. Legal fees on S&P and bank loan will be borne by the developer.

Then they'll give you RM20k vouchers from Ikea etc when you move in. Only for owner-occupied. Aiyah,we still pay for it but at a discount lar. If you rent out they won't give but how would they know? I forgot to take pics. I prefer the ds. It's very good investment if you can afford it.

This post has been edited by TheOwl: Feb 14 2014, 12:07 AM