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 Nokia N900 Thread V2, Firmware FR 1.2 is FINALLY OUT

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post May 21 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(wcshin @ May 20 2010, 11:45 PM)
guys, if i follow the instruction on the front page to OC to 900mhz, would the clock speed js stay at 900mhz or it wil b variable (depend on loading).would it stil be 900mhz when idle?
how is the battery consumption?

fr wat i googled, using titan kernel actually prolong batt life even when running higher mhz than stock
can someone confirm this?

thanks...
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Battery consumption depends on what voltages you run. The lower the better, but not all A8 Cortexes can handle lower then normal voltages by too wide a difference.

It all depends on your N900, mine runs fine on Ideal voltages at 850, others even at 1ghz. Yours might not. That's just how it is.

Oh, and whatever you set, A8s idles at zero or something near that. It's the voltage settings plus all the other crap we're running that is sucking up juice.

IINM anyway. Currently running Starving settings at 250-600 as default, with shortcuts set to change it to Ideal 500-850 if I need it, on Titan's version 33 kernel. Battery life is slightly better, but the one app that really makes any real difference in battery life is actually Autodisconnect IMHO.

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post May 21 2010, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(alidan @ May 21 2010, 03:40 AM)
Hey,what is a stable app for MMS?

Thanks smile.gif
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fMMS is the more mature app, though I've yet to successfully send out any MMSes. It accepts fine though.

There's also MMS to eMail, which according to the Maxis web is even cheaper if you're from different Telcos. I wonder if the opposite is true.


Added on May 21, 2010, 8:03 am
QUOTE(wcshin @ May 21 2010, 07:20 AM)
thanks eiraku 4 ur info...
Autodisconnect app...
is it the 1 tat run using x-term?
discon ur wlan, change 2 2g, ....etc...?
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Autodiscon is from extras-devel, once installed, find in Settings under Network.

Mine is set by default, except I dont let it monitor Wlan, or to disconnect even if it detects OpenVPN, SSH etc. I also have the beta switch to 3G enabled.


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post May 21 2010, 12:49 PM

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Lol... As long as I don't have to reinstall everything from scratch, whenever lar Nokia... brows.gif

Also get Portrait mode running without bugs with a proper keyboard, fix the wifi batt drain bug and Flash 10. Kthxbye... biggrin.gif

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Anyway, the start of day one of my first weekend back to KL sans my lappie. Trying to see if mobile computing has reached the point where I my lappie has become less of neccessity.

And if the N900 is stable enough for extended laptop replacement on the run.

Call it the Mobilility Evaluation project, phase 1.

Btw, my Sialcom BB GPRS/EDGE is acting up in my area right now. 3G's fine but I have limited battery life, you know. Anyone using 2G in KL, ok ah or its another one of their extended downtimes?

EDIT: Annnnnd, now it's okay pulak. Aiseh. Connect through 3G, then switch to 2G. Hmmmmm...

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QUOTE(jordan86 @ May 22 2010, 09:51 AM)
Guys, I want to ask something about autodisconnect. The autodisconnect app is disconnect the connection when we are not using, so do we need to connect the connection back ourselves when we using or it auto connect back?
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Nope, unless something went wrong and your network configs are pening, autodiscon only disconnects net connections that are not active aka transmitting or recieving data. When you need more data the n900 will automatically connect to the net again, using the "connect automatically" settings you have chosen in the Internet setup.

But wifi-switcher messes up this automatic re-connect. Check if you have that installed/activated.

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QUOTE(jordan86 @ May 22 2010, 11:49 AM)
Will it mess up 3G as well?
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It seems so. Wifi switcher messes up 3G autoconnect as well.

As for the tried and true Milestone VS N900 debate, to put it in simple terms (and after all the other long explainations given), it falls to what you want out of the device.

Arguably, the BETTER SMARTPHONE would be the Milestone, but IMHO the more capable MOBILE COMPUTER would have to be the N900.

The smallest netbook that can fit into your pocket thing is right on the mark, as you need to remember, Android is a mobile OS built on top of linux, while Meamo IS linux, tweaked (insufficiently) for mobile use.

And, accordingly, Maemo has IMMENSE untapped potential. Problem is, potential is useless unless utilized. With patience things should (very slowly) improve, but patience is the key word here.

I hope Meego brings better things on the mobile usability front, but I fear that it would come with a reduction of the sheer power and utter customizibility of Maemo.

Either that or we wait for the Mobile Ubuntu project to mature lol.

Anyway, you'll get used to living with a permanently landscape phone. For me, it was my old N-Gage days all over again.

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QUOTE(jordan86 @ May 22 2010, 09:56 PM)
Guys, I would like to ask another question.
If I flash my firmware to titan 800 OC firmware, and i use 600mhz, will it make the battery stay longer?
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Depends on which profile you load. It goes from Stock > LV > Ideal > ULV> XLV > Starving as far as voltages go, assuming you set it all to 250-600. Lower voltages = more battery life, IF your N900 can handle it.

Also, lower clockspeeds = lower voltage BUT slower operation = longer time needed per operation before you lock your N900 and put the proc on idle.

So it's actually quite complex.

Simple rule of thumb though, Starving saves the most battery, but runs very (even dangerously) low voltages.

And your plan of running Ideal at 250-600 should, in theory, already be a battery saver over the stock settings, IF your N900 can handle it lar.

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QUOTE(jordan86 @ May 22 2010, 10:50 PM)
I see. Because from previous post, I saw someone said that using titan firmware will get better battery life or something, thats why I ask here to confirm about it. So thats mean it is no different if use titan firmware and stock firmware in normal clock speed?
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Sorry for not being clear on that. YES, if you use XLV, Ideal, ULV, LV or Starving profiles - you WILL save battery, because lower voltages are used.

But which one will work for you best, that's trial and error. Some profiles might cause your N900 to restart often, because of voltages that are too low.

ULV profile set to 250-600mhz is a good place to start for battery saving (because Ideal doesn't do 250 too well I've read). If that is stable (no restarts and other funny stuff) you can try XLV next, maybe 250-500mhz.

I'm currently on Starving 250-500mhz most of the time, with shortcuts set to push that up to 500-900 when ever needed.

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ May 22 2010, 11:08 PM)
meaning of XLV = Extra Low voltage , Ultra low voltage , Low voltage?  <--- i think thats wat it means. For a normal consumer trial and error is risky because they do not know how to get it back on track

To make everyone life easy i have already provided a guide on OC that works for alot of people. only drawback of this OC is sometimes it will clock back to 600mhz without reason. You can always clock it back by few steps.
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Great way to do it aspire, anyhow the go back to 600mhz bug is related to the Phone app IINM. Lehto's kernels have problem with this.

I THINK Titan's kernel fixed this already in the newest versions, but not sure.

But keep in mind, OVERCLOCKING and MODIFIED KERNELS (Lehto OR Titan) both involve messing with your system files, potentially causing a bricking of your phone and/or an invalidated warranty.

Just to remind.

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Anybody found out any program that can sort multiple video files into playlists and then play it through the default player? Or at LEAST play multiple video files Tried canola, no dice. Then kmplayer, not really. Now media box, but it has a problem with volume control.

Don't tell me I havta go back to mplayer, sigh. I kinda like how the default gstreamer handles video.
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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ May 23 2010, 05:21 PM)
wat u meant is using titan kernel or wat  rclxub.gif
Yeah, titan's kernel. Also try out Aspire's Lehto tutorials, even simpler.

Woah, I somehow realized that tweaking the transitions file has an effect on how often my N900 gets stuck in portrait after a call. Too fast = more lockups in portrait.

Maybe the N900 just can't cope, or maybe transitions that are too fast are triggering a bug in the landscape/portrait switch. FYI for anyone interested.
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Hooyarr!

Reached Mobile Computing Project Milestone 1: Got VNC viewer working through 3G... It's laggy but more than bearable, I can start/stop/control my downloads or whatever from wherever with 3G!

With enough patience, that is, lol.

Should perform better with a good solid WLAN connection, but it's a proof of concept. Or rather, a dream come true - never mind the rough edges.

Remote desktop control FTW!

Next, VPN for constant access of all my files.

Man, I'm actually creating so many frigging holes for people to dig into my lappy lol.

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ May 24 2010, 05:26 PM)
look forward for u to share this with us. So i can provide a guide to make it work for others tongue.gif

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Sure, it's the *nix spirit after all.

Howto is here: http://variableghz.com/2008/09/getting-serious-about-vnc/

Note that it's a guide to setup your Windows PC to accept VNC connections, but the N900 viewer doesn't really need any tweaking at all. As a bonus, you can install VNC viewer on ANY computers and be able to access your PC remotely the same way now.

For the N900 side, just install VNC Viewer from xtras-d (or xtras, forgot), run, enter server:port (wahlala.whatsmyip.com:5900) and password (that you set) and you're rockin!

Remember, volume up+click = right click, volume down+click = middle click.

Any questions, do PM. And yes, expect it to by laggy through 3G.

And I'm not sure if it works the same way through Win 7, as I expect the video hook driver to be a SLIGHT problem on 7.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 24 2010, 06:01 PM)
Basically no need setting from N900. It's very simple and straighforward.

Just need to set port forwarding from the router, and set static IP for your PC/laptop.
Need to configure the Windows Firewall too (or any other firewall or possibly security one may have that may block access).
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Only problem is Screamyx uses Dynamic IP, hence the DynDNS thing. It was a problem I have been scratching my own head about for many years now, surprisingly solved by a search to access my PC from the N900.

But I do feel that we'll need at least LTE packet speeds to be able to REALLY do mobile remote access with decent smoothness. Oh well, hope the next Internet Tablet has LTE (and that Meego is still desktop grade powderful and not just some dumbed down OS running ON linux)... biggrin.gif

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Meego around the corner... I is scared... blush.gif

We'll be the amongst the first bunch to explore this wide new world, which I hope still HAS busybox and xterm... brows.gif

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ May 24 2010, 10:44 PM)
yes sir 500mb package from hotlink

guys check it out at accessories thread i already updated your order if any error or more order pm me thank you
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Mmmmmm, 2 megs downstream... That will make VNC run mighty fine (though the 0.06 upstream will choke a bit when I give input)... drool.gif

I'm subsisting on my limited 768kbps "best-served" el-cheapo Siaocom Broadband package, EVEN that feels fast sometimes lol, especially here in low-penetration Lipis.

Heck, EDGE feels fast over here lol.

And what are the odds that Meego rolls over BEFORE PR1.2, by some odd chance lol.

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ May 24 2010, 10:48 PM)
i hate sialcom because its limited to 384kbps. Hotlink i have 500mb every month to download. Last month i cant even hit 500MB. Maxis i have seen it in 6.2mbps before
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In Lipis (or most other 3Ged non-city area) = low penetration = YAHOO speeds.

In KL or most other cities = cry.gif

Lol sialcom... brows.gif

Anyway, join me with the chanting people, Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegoooooooooooooooooooo.... brows.gif
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QUOTE(spizzerd @ May 25 2010, 01:13 AM)
celcom mms information

Provider Name Celcom  
Provider APN mms.celcom.net.my
  Account
  Password
  Provider WAP Gateway 10.128.1.242
  Provider MMSC http://mms.celcom.net.my/
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Also, Port: 8080

I can vouch for these settings working, have been able to send and recieve MMS with it using the latest fMMS.

And about the Meego situation, I STILL think they are going to water down the desktop-ness of Maemo in Meego (but also secretly pray that they don't). Which is good for a smartphone, but bad for us *nix nerds.

Plus MOST of the apps for Maemo has to be ported over, or at least repackaged (Maemo uses debs, Meego uses RPM packaging)... sweat.gif

Hoping for dual-boot if it ever comes to that. Or even triple-boot (Android/Meego/Maemo)... We're actually spoilt for choice, wouldn't you say?

@the iphone jumper, you're gonna find Maemo 5/Frementle (at least in it's current state) buggy, confusing and awfully unfriendly. But at the same time, spend some more time and you'll realize that in return, it's really, really open (as in do-what-you-like with the OS) to the point of being dangerous (you can bork your phone really easy if you aren't careful)... brows.gif

Also, there's the app selection problem. On the iphone, there's an app for everything. In Maemo, there's probably an app for everything if you care to edit some code, compile a bit, and even then it might not really work that well. Otherwise, the app situation is pretty bare, at least for now.

Hopefully the situation is better once Meego is launched, as Meego will span multiple devices = more people using it = more companies interested in developing apps.

But yeah, point the N900's browser to a good connection and you'll find that it's easily miles ahead of anything else out there.

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QUOTE(one1002 @ May 25 2010, 02:08 AM)
the fmms config :

(ACCESS POINT)
Access point name : celcom
username:
password:
proxy: 10.128.1.242
proxy port: 8080
mmsc http://mms.celcom.net.my

like this?i can't get it to work..there's no apn gateway.. =(
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Try again with bolded part? I never entered the apn gateway, also fMMS (at least the newest one) never asked.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 25 2010, 09:15 AM)
I own a French car, also this is a French phone, sorry to say, both have similar problems. And from the french car company, I get to know a little on how the French works.
They have great products, but they lack of providing good support and attention to the owners.
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It's a French phone? That's the first time I heard that one, though I agree that in a spiritual sense (how the follow through is, with lack of support) it does seem very French to me.

But yeah, Nokia should've just branded the device "a grand experiment in open source mobile computing" because, when you look at it, that's what it really is, a user generated, user mantained, user enhanced phone with limited support.

Even the Pandora has better support, it seems.

I still have grand hopes that somebody comes up with an open source shell replacement (a complete replacement of hildon and the core osso apps) that will our blow our minds away, simply because it can be done. Unfortunately, without large financial backing, that should be impossible in the time span of just a few simple years.

Or maybe someone can port the UI of Meego and hack it to run on Meamo because then we'll have the best of both worlds. Something plausible, but keeping in mind how open source works, advancement will be slow, painfully so.

QUOTE(meLi @ May 25 2010, 12:15 PM)
Bro,

If i'm not mistaken at the frontpage that is Lehto OC. The titan OC need to install this 3 application/module

1. Enhanced linux kernel for power users
2. Enhanced kernel for power users (settings)
3. kernel-power-settings

And manually set kernel-config etc. Before this im using Lehto OC. Today just try to install Titan OC and want to know which one is stable config to use using titan oc. Either load boot, default, ideal, lv, starving, ulv or xlv and what is Min and Max freq.
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The most stable config should be lv and ideal. Starving is the most power saving, if your N900 can handle it.

I'm currently running Starving with a bumped up speed range of 250-750, no noticeable slowdowns and acceptable battery life (half-day or so) under heavy, near-constant 3.5G multi-tasking (avarage of 5-7 MicroB windows running at one time, amongst other things).

I need a bigger, better designed battery pack, why can't they do it like the Milli case for the 3GS - intergrated back case/battery? Another 1200mah woud do.

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