More for fashion actually

For that I'd recommend Crumpler if you are to avoid the nerdy look of Lowepro

I'm a real entry level. Anyone can tell me the different between 14-42mm lens and 20mm lens? I'm searching through google, but not much understand.
Hope that any expert here can help me with this...

Are you talking about Olympus or Panny 14-42mm?

Anyway, to make it simple for you to understand:

14-42mm f3.5/5.6
- More versatile, because of its zoom capability (can shoot wider too) - better if you shoot event or wildlife
- Larger and heavier
- "Slower", means even at maximum aperture (lower f-stop) your image will appear blur if there's subject movement
- More difficult to capture sharp image under low light situation

20mm f/1.7 a.k.a "pancake"
- Cannot zoom (it's a prime lens - means the focal length is fixed)
- Lighter and smaller
- Faster... handy if you shoot pets or kids at f/1.7 - image would be sharp even there's subject movement
- Image is sharper if you capture photo under low light situation (e.g. indoor)
- At maximum aperture (f/1.7), you can have more obvious background blurring effect (known as Bokeh), like this:


For me (I own both 14-45mm kit lens and 20mm prime), I use the zoom lens occasionally for landscape or event (when zooming is required), but I use the pancake most of the time because it's lighter and take sharper image.

This post has been edited by samurai1337: May 23 2010, 12:33 AM

I'm ex-user of 40d. No need to switch. 40D for serious photography. GF-1 for casual shooting.

Another proof that dSLR user more inclined towards GF-1....

Well, I suppose if tadasu is really after the portability - he can still consider Micro Four Thirds camera. It's not exactly pocketable, but at least it's much lighter and the lenses are also smaller, you are more likely to carry around with you compare to the bulkier DSLR. More importantly, it doesn't shout "Hey look I am a nerd and I got a DSLR with me" - so it's more suitable for casual photography and parties

Quality wise. D40 was entry level DSLR, so image quality wise they aren't that much different. If you talk about cameras for more serious photography like D300S of course there's no match. Sorry misread 40D with D40

And gogo2 - I'm from Sony DSC-T20

This post has been edited by samurai1337: May 23 2010, 12:56 AM

lol, d40 and 40d is big different

not sure why, but majority dSLR user opt for Pana...

ex d40 moved to oly.

i went to oly signature store in MC today. not muck opening promo. even fotokem is cheaper. hehe.

I think you are trying to compare oly m zuiko 14-42 kit lens that comes with camera and GF1 kit lens 20mm right? And you want to trade-off the oly 14-42 for a 20mm?

1st off, the oly kit lens does not worth much compared to the pany pancake 20mm which costs a lot more. However, like samurai put it nicely, the oly 14-42mm is a much more versatile lens overall, having wider coverage from 14mm up to 42mm, so its more useful in that sense. With this wider coverage, you can click away without the subject noticing you, well most of the time. The oly costs around 1k (new) and anything from 0.5k to 0.8k (used) while the pany is around 1.4k(new) and its very hard to find used unit. So you can see both lenses are good actually. Pany 20mm is more of a keeper lens. Go to www.stevehuffphotos.com. Steve has very good 'real world experience' review of both the lenses.

Hope this is helpful.

Sorry, I'm forgot to state what lens. I'm talking about Olympus 14-42mm f3.5/5.6 and 20mm f/1.7 a.k.a "pancake".
Thanks for the info, bro...Its really help...
I will go for e-pl1 adding with the pancake lens...

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Added on May 23, 2010, 10:08 am[COLOR=red][SIZE=7]Right, I'm compare both of the lens....
Thanks for the info. This really help....


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This post has been edited by Guy85: May 23 2010, 10:08 AM

Glad you find that useful. If you have the 14-42mm kit lens and want to let go, pm me.

How much are the 14-42mm kit lens?
BTW, you using which model right now? Panasonic or Oylmpus?
Is it suitable to use pancake 20mm f1.7 to shoot for landscape or potrait? What will be the effect?

I think of letting go my Olympus 14-42mm so that I can get 9-18mm.... how much you willing to pay? lol

What are the difference between 14-42mm and 9-18mm lens?
Is it suitable to use a pancake 20mm f1.7 lens to shoot for landscape or protrait?

9-18mm is wider.... when u go to a party, you can shoot nearer and more people in ur photo...

suitability is different from different person... but as a normal standard:

landscape = wide angle = 7~14mm
portrait = big aperture f/1.7~1.4 (sometimes its preferable to be zoom of 25mm and above (for m43 camera 2x crop))

Basically, the lower the "mm" value, means the wider is it, and the higher the "mm" value means the further you "zoom".

You need to understand focal length
http://www.photoaxe.com/understanding-the-...h-and-aperture/

Thanks for the info...

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Added on May 23, 2010, 5:08 pmThanks for the info

This post has been edited by Guy85: May 23 2010, 05:08 PM

I want to sell my Panasonic 14-140 lens. Anyone interested?

14-42mm is around 1k-new and not more than 0.8k used(earlier this year) and shud be cheaper now.

My 1st m4/3 was a Oly e-p1 but after about 2 months upgraded it to e-p2 and bought the Pancake 20mm for easy carriage and of course good quality images and at the sametime be able to shoot under low light conditions, my main concern. 20mm f1.7 does make acceptable Landscape images but not Portraits, which you normally would choose longer lenses, like 50mm or 100mm lens.

20mm in m4/3 terms is 40mm because of the 2x crop factor of all m4/3 cameras. So seriously not really a good Landscape workhorse. For true wide angle, we would normally go for a 12mm lens or wider. However, I have shot Landscape with the pancake 20mm f1.7 and I really like the image quality of the lens.

how much? this is very good lens..

20mm f/1.7 suitable for under low light situation, then do I still need to use external flash when using pancake? But if I'm using external flash together with pancake, what will be the effect? And if I'm using 14-42mm lens with external flash when shooting in low light condition, will the effect same as using pancake?

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Added on May 23, 2010, 9:55 pmThanks for the info...pancake able to shoot under low light condition, so do I still need the external flash when using this pancake?

This post has been edited by Guy85: May 23 2010, 09:55 PM