QUOTE(duh2k @ May 5 2011, 11:29 PM)
In my opinion, I don't think that the hd800 is like the hd650. The signature is different, the hd650 to me feels laid back and warm, whereas the hd800 is more detailed, neutral and has fantastic imaging qualities.
As to how it fares against other high end cans, which models are you referring to? At that level, it's mostly about preference as all the models sound good.
p.s. I have heard that the hd800 requires a very, very GOOD (read, mahal) amp to really make them sing

As always, try them out EXTENSIVELY if you plan on buying em....rm6k ain't cheap

Just my humble 2cents and should be taken with a bucket of salt. I believe there are some hd800 owners here that can give you a better review

So meaning to say HD800 is in another different league compared to HD650?
Any models with the same price range/level as HD800. Ok, the HD800 is neutral yea? So how does it do against other neutral cans?
It certainly does need a good amp, which I believe will cost just a little less than the cans right? RM6k ain't cheap bro, not for people like us that is. RM6k can get a scooter bro. Lol.
QUOTE(MrJinggles @ May 6 2011, 01:43 AM)
Pretty much, that's not even including the amp!
Like duh2k, I too have heard that the HD800 is difficult to drive.
Ouch, but I do believe that you can't put a price in quality.
QUOTE(CoolBoy89 @ May 6 2011, 01:54 AM)
Yep, be prepared for a big hole in ur wallet to get the maximum potential of the HD800. They are one of the most picky cans out there.

A massive hole it will be indeed. How much will the total damage you reckon? RM10k for the headphone + amp?
QUOTE(awyongcarl @ May 6 2011, 03:50 AM)
Well, I'll be very honest here, I am somewhat ashamed.
While there is absolutely nothing wrong with going to the top flagships right off the bat, there is ONE fatal flaw doing so:
You will not be able to fully appreciate it.This is true and can applies to many other things.
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Anyway, back to my experience.
My first reference is AKG K701 and I am stunned by its capability to produce the high, it turns an absolute basshead like me into one who appreciates high/trebles, it also made me hating low quality bass (muddy and overwhelming).
Then I found a good deal on HD800, pulled the trigger, and I am in another level of world now. I love the neutrality and imaging HD800 produces, it is an absolute perfection of the AKG K701. It is undeniable that K701 is a flawed headphone though, thus the cheap price. HD800, in a nutshell, is a fixed AKG 701 in almost every aspect. Fuller and better bass presentation, balanced treble and they are all very well controlled.
I've always thought and felt that K701 is the start and the end of my journey, until I've gotten HD800, all of sudden, I felt that my journey has just started. HD800's neutrality sparked the curiosity in me, the curiosity to find out the vast definition of "coloration" of many headphones.
With all that said, I still like K701, it has something HD800 don't have and vice versa. The flaw of K701, uncontrolled peak high and lack of imaging is the major turn off for most people I guess. It is very left and right, while listening through HD800 feels like I am listening to a pair of speaker, not headphone.
Now..I can't talk for shit because I don't know shit. Above is just my opinion comparing HD800 with K701.
Fun Fact : I can get both HD800 and K701 with Rm6000 with some changes enough for me to buy a cheap mid entry level amp (ie, Fiio E9)
Thanks for the word of advise bro. I agree with you on that, thus why I didn't fork out my savings right away after I felt like I "need" HD800. Would be a big mistake if I did. I would really want to have one, but not yet. Not till my ears are capable to appreciate every penny out of it.
So in other words the HD800 is pretty perfect ain't it?
Wow, how much does a HD800 cost in UK? You're in UK right?
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 6 2011, 09:55 AM)
naw im not in a hurry for flagship headphones. after all, i still prefer speakers even with my AD900. and i have all intentions for my AD900 to be the end of the line until i am done with ALL my other "goals" and "wants"

and that will take quite a long time (at least 4-5 years time span)
Take it slow bro, we have all the time in the world. This is just hobbies for us right. Thumbs up for setting your priorities straight.
Anyways, my dad once told me the more you struggle to earn/gain something, the more you'll appreciate it. Wise man that old chap is. Lol.
This post has been edited by d3m0n: May 6 2011, 10:14 AM