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 Sennheiser Headphones/Earphones Fan Club V2, Create the Sound.................

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post Jul 8 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(tr|al @ Jul 8 2010, 12:03 AM)
mana boleh tahan, even my friend resisting it.  biggrin.gif
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tell him. don't resist liao..
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post Jul 8 2010, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(tr|al @ Jul 8 2010, 12:08 AM)
i strongly believes he will get a 650 one day.
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i also think so....
hahaha

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post Jul 8 2010, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(sep90 @ Jul 8 2010, 12:55 AM)
hmm interesting
maybe next week if i free go kacau yuheng and try pcwork's masterpiece...
or maybe drop by yur place if u r free
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i still arranging my time table.
i have something to do actually in this coming weekend.
i still waiting answer from other people to agree i shift it to some other time.
will reply back to you asap when i get their reply.

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post Jul 8 2010, 01:12 AM

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lol
dun like that
finger type too many times F today..
no power liao to press the F.. so shift become shit...

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post Jul 8 2010, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Jul 8 2010, 01:14 AM)
You type F or you did the action "F"? LOL.
*runs*
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type only lah
eh talk this kind of things. mod will warn / ban or not ah.
u see ur status. everyday talk yellowish things until kena banned liao loh.


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post Jul 16 2010, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(walabies @ Jul 16 2010, 07:00 PM)
You should come one day to try the PCwork's symphonica cable. I listen also cannot believe it is HD650. Take down only believe my eyes. shocking.gif Very amazing...
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TQ brother,,
i am glad u like it =)

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post Jul 18 2010, 01:04 PM

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lol. but weird that in his sales thread he said that heaphone is 6 months old while he said just got it?
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post Jul 18 2010, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jul 18 2010, 01:32 PM)
second hand unit lae...seem he just brought it frm someone....maybe he upgrade to hd650 ....
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lol. finally see u post liao.. not so busy already ah?

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post Jul 18 2010, 03:29 PM

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650 comes with a big wood box.
=)
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post Jul 18 2010, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Kriish @ Jul 18 2010, 05:14 PM)
Hello there,

Anyone here knows the Symphonica replacement cables uses what connector and cables?
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yeah i know what is the connector and cables.
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Added on July 18, 2010, 5:33 pm
QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jul 18 2010, 05:21 PM)
nope rolleyes.gif
does it matter? 3.5" plugs.. u can always find good 3.5-6.3 converter..
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bro. not inch leh
it's mm
3.5mm stereo plug.
the mm is count by the diameter of the plug pin...
LOL
3.5" big oh.. =X this is JAVS = Japanese AV syndrome. Enigmatic infected you already i think.


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post Jul 22 2010, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(sep90 @ Jul 22 2010, 10:14 AM)
ok it has been a while since i posted my last reviews bout senheiiser cables here
but i think it will be the last one unless some1 (ahem) come out with a new senheiiser cable in nearby future....
today i will write my reviews about PcWork's Symphony cable which i tested in Jaben with Denon CDP paired with North Star 192 MK1(musical favor dac) and paired with Rudistor Rpx-33 Dual Mono

Looks - Mite not be the best eye candy on the market compare to some of best Headfi's exaggerated looks and exotic looking expensive but i can give a green go for it's solid built and good workmanship done by our wizard here.... - 7/10

Workmanship - Yes!, possible every detail and nuance has been pay to carefully done for cable itself and rest assured that he ahem ( extremely prideful) in making and creating the cable... where u can get a cable who has 2 different colors left and right and transparent at the same time??( maybe if he can add supernylon or just put some shinning crystal/bling stuff then it will be perfect )lol - 8/10

Sound quality - ahem before i jump into reviews itself, pls check back my previous post i did some reviews of senheiiser cables from usd 200 to 400 and most of them r Headfi's famous cables which i love and loathed some of them...well maybe preference play a role here but most of my setup r based on neutral setup so that i can tune it to my perfection and doesnt color too much and overdid the mids tonality

High- now to famous treble which the senheiiser hd650 doesnt have due it's laidback signature, after listening for 2 tracks with Rodrigo Y Gabriel, it has very smooth highs which doesnt overpierce and doesnt give simmering effect to user  itself... the spacing is done correctly when the tamacun and guitars kick in without sounding artificial fake or overdone ....if i have a complain then only it doesnt give as wide as K1000 or Hd800 or as airry as i would prefer it but it's is currently limited by headphone's driver and restriction ..overall a very nicely done upper frequency without giving sibliance - 8.5/10

Mids - most of the senheiiser headphones r famous for their mids and i can attest even the die hard fans who loved vocals and orchestrals will melt away by it's house signature... it is true since most of my friends from Dynamics moved to Electrostatics which is unparalleled in mids and liquid,smooth and wide soundstage but that is other story...the symphony cable made the mids very very smooth (notice the word smooth not lush) lush is meaning overdone in mids tonality and clouding the rest of frequency, imagine when u put too much cream on the coffee or tea, what it will become? it will be cloudly or overly thick and no more coffee taste or tea taste (excuse me, but i think that is easier way to explain if u guys r coffee fans or tea tarik fan rite?)  laugh.gif the lower registry and upper registry is smooth without sacrificing details nor aggressive + effortless making the music flowing through...this was tested through my Beck (Face ) and Moon on the Water...it is neither too thick nor thin but just right texture for it and this is extremely correct tonality balance mid i have heard
this i think it is major improvement on the senheisser itself  thumbup.gif 9/10

Bass - well without bass it will be damm boring and not enough umph as i would call it... here i would like to explain there r 2 type of bass - the midbass and sub bass.... the midbass r most ppl will be drawn into it ( when u turn certain volume up for yur headphones, then the midbass will come out and surrounding u with it) that is midbass which registered the mids and lower mids and that wat we call it dynamic bass (electrostatics have slight less dynamic bass but make it up for their superb bass and refined layering) sub bass is the decays, layering and impact that goes all the way down without any colorations (when coloration happens, the sub bass is clouded and u could hear the bass rolled off, best way to test use a cd track with fast visceral drums beat and listen to double beat itself or piano's depth itself....if the sub bass is clean u will notice and hear the pianos passages and how hard or softly the pianist play)
this maybe a tough choice for me but  the bass is definitely there but it lacks impact and maybe a bit slow for my taste..dun mind me but i started out as basshead to high fidelity and extremely fussy when it comes to bass.....not to rain on the parade but judging if it has a bit of speed or bass impact then it will be ideal enough to handle even the extremely complicated bass passage like technos, fast music and so forth...
but it is not fair to compare, since i using my previous experience from truly balanced setup to drive my stubborn hd650 and it has more speed,body,prat and very effortlessly giving me goosebumps when i played Gabriel tracks or listening to Koji Tamaki sorrow's voice
but judging from it's price and performance and maker's signature, it is a no brainer and it is very very good for it's price ratio vs performance
and to be fair, if pcwork (ahem damm u celaka doh.gif ) come earlier with freaking cable i wouldnt need to spend rm60k (not rm30k bro, the vahalla and crystal cable ultra how much already ler??? + furutech top of line flux power,shunyata top of line? and i got freaking thick crystal cable ultra interconnect )  doh.gif
it is worth every penny and it is bout 80% performance of some balanced setup i heard - highly recommended 7/10

that is for Symphony cable and overall i can heartily recommend to ppl who doesnt believe in cable wise and have a go at Jaben itself
come and audit for itself and c whether it's playing tricks on yur own ears and eyes when it is driven by puny Govibe amp itself
overall - 8.5/10 ( well worth for it performance's and price range )highly recommendable
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jul 22 2010, 11:36 AM)
have to agree on the bass part, it is a tiny weeny bit slow, on those tight passage it is slightly lacking.. but then.. most people wouldnt even notice in the first place.. i only notice it when comparing my vtg and the hd650+symphonica on darkvoice se337.. but darkvoice is not a fast amp either.. and vtg is a bassy headphone to begin with. i think it's 53mm (vs senns 40mm) driver is doing the job of coping with it.

i do find combo with the ppk immediately fixed the bass response.. so, probably just need a faster amp to pair it with. that aside.. it does great in everything else..
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thanks pals.
for the good and detail review...
i have to agree that govibe ppk indeed can't bring out the texture and layering of the bass of HD650 itself.
it can do bass. but the texture still not up to my personal preference.
however.. paring it with something extrememly neutral and fast, (larvy DA-11). immediately solve the problem.
when are u coming back? we could have that tested. =P

and that day, indeed you heard it with ppk driven.. it is good for overall. but not best sounding HD650 symphonica imho. it still about 40-50% only of the actual performance when properly driven by larvy DA11 itself.


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post Jul 22 2010, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(sep90 @ Jul 22 2010, 09:21 PM)
maybe not  for long bro brows.gif  ...wan me to bring my amp/dac back for full complete poisoning session? ><
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hehe
in this case
not really more expensive is good one.
we tested rudistor amp. larvy DA11 direct drive HD650 with symphonica is FAR better than adding the rudistor amp in between.
one of our member with yamamoto also confirmed that when yamamoto is added in the link, it start to degrade the sound. despite improve in some minor section.
northern star DAC in yuheng shop also inhibits similar behavior, imho. too slow for HD650.
in the end. more stuff in the circuit, more coloration. slower the sound. and causing the sound to become worst.
unless your amp / DAC is super transparent, neutral, with no colouration. then it will be a perfect good match to the 650 symphonica.

650 with symphonica cable is not hard to drive. so it doesn't require monster amp to push it.
but it is extremely sensitive to sound signature, tonal balance, sound decay, and colouration in mid/ mid bass.
any slight hint of that in the circuits, will be very obvious when compare it to larvy DA-11 direct push.

that's why until now i still recommend people to try LARVY DA-11 + Symphonica + HD650.
and i can tell that symphonica HD650 will require something very transparent, very fast, and very neutral source to make it perform.
those tube amp, will need to avoid if possible. except several seriously expensive tube amp which doesn't sound slow.

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post Jul 23 2010, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(xenohawk @ Jul 23 2010, 10:22 PM)
Alamak.. more poison to get ppk to pair it with the Symphonica cable, too bad DA-11 is out from my budget [>__<]. Hmm but one thing worry me, PPK battery cannot tahan long?
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who told u it cannot tahan long?
since i bought it, i charge over night.
UNTIL NOW it is still working..
=.=
i use it to run pk1 when not on HD650 oso..
and if we can find proper USB cord with the power plug at end.
we can charge it with USB of computer.
the input voltage is 5V only..

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post Jul 25 2010, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Windcent @ Jul 25 2010, 12:52 PM)
Hehe,will prevent to this things happen tongue.gif seems i wonder why it's so hard to adjust xD,even my hd595 is very easily to adjust sweat.gif
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drop by to jaben to try the symphonica .. =P
since u already got gaham and 650.

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post Jul 25 2010, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Windcent @ Jul 25 2010, 03:21 PM)
Yah,before i got mine Hd650 i just bought Solo units from Walabies & yuheng on this july too,they give me such pretty damn great bundle tongue.gif thanks to them too~ i just left to funds for upgrade cable,~mayb it might taking such long time...drop so many $$$ upon these stuff tongue.gif the symphonica cable is made by silver or copper??Actually Interest on moon audio silver dragon cable,but never heard it b4~but it's cable really poisoned me even from design (red cable)drool.gif donno how it's SQ compared with  symphonica,make me hard to decide sweat.gif have any body heard silver dragon cable be4???
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haha
the silver dragon cable of []tr|al[]'s friend is currently on my hand for some repair work. one side of the plug is disconnected internally.
if u want. drop by
i have both symphonica and silver dragon on hand for u to test it out.
hahaha
=P
i am quite confident in this though. LOL
all hail symphonica....

QUOTE(elainor @ Jul 25 2010, 07:34 PM)
u can get hd650 around rm1000 on ebay...planning to get one from there...
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that RM 1000 is used or new?
and make sure get new driver version, cause it is better.
i got some friend oso sell out their old HD650 to get the silver driver version.
it is much better.

and buy from jaben has 2 years local warranty. and RM 1.9K from jaben is quoted price. always cheaper when u got it in bundle.
go ahead and ask jaben what is the price of HD650 + bundle symphonica / other amp.
sometime i oso surprise by the price. very very cheap imho.

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post Jul 25 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Kain_Sicilian @ Jul 25 2010, 08:14 PM)
Owner of HD202, and as of yesterday.. an owner of IE8 reporting in biggrin.gif
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wahlao eh..
from the lowest end, jump to the flagship...
no play play one wor..
salute u.
notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
anyway. good choice. that's what i always advice people of doing it. if can afford, go for the best. then save the time, hassle, and money to upgrade.
no need to think change earphone anymore.

by the way.
when change ur 40D to 1DMKIV?
=D


Added on July 25, 2010, 10:58 pm
QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jul 25 2010, 10:57 PM)
haha.. someone's 'pride' just got bigger? rolleyes.gif
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u first day know me kah??????
flex.gif flex.gif tongue.gif
i memang lansi one mah..
tak akan u tak tahu?


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post Jul 25 2010, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Windcent @ Jul 25 2010, 11:28 PM)
shocking.gif u have both of cable right now?borrow me someday to let me have a try(well...even know impossible blush.gif )~ however rclxms.gif did u tried between of both??what difference for both of this cable?
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cannot borrow u lah
the silver dragon is not mine.

u can come to test it though.
hahaha


do u think i so confident to ask u come over to try for what???
lol
of course i tried both.. and i told u. i am confident. LOL.
again : All Hail Symphonica...
HAHAHAHAHA
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post Jul 27 2010, 02:14 AM

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i feel MS1 less secure on my head..
because the pad is flat.

but Hd650. it can cover whole ear.

so overall HD650 more comfort.
but new HD650 that time. quite clamp head.
lol. then when get used to it. ok loh. not feeling it clamp hard oso now.

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post Jul 29 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jul 28 2010, 11:45 PM)
yeah as you aware those high-end or flagship there do not provide this kind of thing....if there is i think all my headphone also go hanger liao haha...
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because they think you very very rich liao mah. buy flagship.
then sure can afford headphone stand liao...


QUOTE(Windcent @ Jul 29 2010, 12:15 AM)
I think you're right,didn't ever see flagship provide hanger, does "Sa5000"is flagship??

Actually,the reason of 1 i bought hd595 is got hanger  sweat.gif ,It Pretty nice using chip onto table,convenience tongue.gif
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SA5K is indeed consider flagship of sony.
but they got some more "Ex" flagship
like Qualia 010, Sony R10

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post Jul 30 2010, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(studwo @ Jul 29 2010, 03:40 PM)
Sa5k .. a!!!!!!!  @pcwork this 1 can recable?
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never try it before.
hahaha
no SA5k to experiment.
lol


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