fully agree. Have seen people and some dealers spitting in the staircase area. If they are not spitting, they are on their handphones talking and digging their noses to glory.

How to buy from such people? Like that, you buy speaker, sure got some gold (bugger) somewhere on the speaker or receipt.

The organiser need to improve on such things. Infact, the organiser need to go to International shows in the UK or Europe and emulate how such events are really organised. No smoking at all and no polystyrene lunch boxes everywhere.

Seeing fish and chicken bones here and there is disgusting.

Desa Home Theater selling Marantz SR6003 for only RM2499, is it worth ??

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Added on July 23, 2010, 10:53 amAny promo on PSB speakers and Velodyne sub ar?

This post has been edited by echoesian: Jul 23 2010, 10:53 AM

Gotta admit that I'm surprised by the amount of negativity that is being put out by some with regards to the AV show. I can understand that in a lot of cases Malaysia has things more expensive than others but having an AV show is not only about cheap stuff guys. Its a way for manufacturers and retailers to showcase under one roof new models, new gadgets, and clear some old stuff. Contrary to popular belief, home AV is not as lucrative business as many of you out there believe. Granted, some make fantastic money out of it, but so do other businesses alike.

End of the day, just like all businesses, they are there to generate revenue and pay the bills. Some more so than others. This coupled with all the rants about us getting substandard stuff. Things are improving, a couple of years ago, not many in Malaysia heard about SVS, Mark Seaton and other small success stories. With the wide spread of internet literacy, the public is more knowledgeable. So, like all things, be patient. Our tax laws are as they are, our tax laws. Different countries have different rules, thats the fact.

Just like any other country, there is room for improvement. Hey, unlike some of u out there, this is the only country for me to call home at the moment, I'm just going to make the best of it and see what I can do to improve it. My way, is to give people advice based on data and opinions on the various products...what about u?

fully agree. Most people think AV show is some cheap sale. I think they get this idea and concept based on PC Fairs. But in reality, like you say, it is a place to showcase new technology. Like International car shows in Europe or Cebit, new technology is showcased and introduced to people. They want to get feedback on prototypes.

Its a pity Malaysians go for exhibitions hoping to get discounts and cheap stuff. Even more sad when people go to look at girls.

From experience, you can get much cheaper lah bargaining one to one with a retailer at his premises with the comfort of coffee and tea. The same with PC Fair also, so much cheaper to buy in LYP after bargaining. Comfortable somemore. Go to Amcorp, you can bargain to glory and get the best deal in town.

Its high time to re educate the poeple that exhibitions are really exhibitions, it is to merely highlight new technology.

This post has been edited by michaeltan1943: Jul 23 2010, 11:41 AM

what about u ?....by AD

malaysian in general ,more than anything else, have unquenchable thirst for bargains and free-shows. rather embarrassing as most visitors or potential buyers at these AV shows are from the middle to upper class

although civic consciousness has improve since independence , we need leaders or family head to set examples . we will eventually succeed in planting civic responsibilities mind set to our children but more time is required to educate them but first let us be the role model.

meanwhile, it's showtime at the Marriott

Improvement??? I see. Maybe the organiser is charging RM10 entrance fee to deter more smokers / cows from showing up at the show???
South Africa has one of the highest crime rates in the world, and I would not advise people not to go see the World Cup there???

As long as there are international brands and products showcase, KLIAV shall keep the "international" word and I am proud that such event come to our door step. Seeing, observing and listening to the systems is the only testimony I can tell my ears which system is the best; just like wine, "The Best Wine Is Still The Wine That You Like Best" (irrespective of price, mid or high end).

Its a hard act to improve the environment at the show actually. Imagine this, the only way one can showcase their system with full blast with minimal interruption to your neighbours would be a room. So hotel comes naturally in this respect as a show venue , not KLCC convention hall or other open space venue.

Its easier to control and to clean up the environment in one open big space, but its not going to work in a hotel environment.

Then the size of the room and the resources comes in too. I have seen the staff actually stock everything inside the hotel room toilet, they even eat their lunch there ! So do expect difficulties and lack of facilities to provide good environment for the customers. I mean, they can't even keep their own show room due mainly to lack of space.

As a customer, I would expect draw back such as this. Nonetheless, its always good to point it out for future improvement sake.

[quote=peter32,Jul 23 2010, 12:06 PM]

Then the size of the room and the resources comes in too. I have seen the staff actually stock everything inside the hotel room toilet, they even eat their lunch there !




Yes I have seen this. It is rather shocking. I saw DVD players stacked up on the toilet bowl seat. Quite unhygenic. Most people normally don't even touch the toilet bowl seat in a public place and here, our dvd players are sitting on it.

Those who've been to this venue, anything to look out for ... major exhibition or displays eg. cinema setup etc.? Which showroom is exceptional?

a year or so back, i went to every single home expo in the klang valley, as i was reno-ing my home...initial intention was to get great bargains for everything i need...after visiting all the expo throughout 2009, and after speaking to a few friends who happens to have the same idea as me, we all came to a conclusion...expo is for manufacturer's/agents & distributors to showcase their products..definitely not a place for bargain as you can get the same price or even cheaper shopping from one outlet to another...rather than bargaining at the expo...true..some items may be a bargain, but may not be your cup of tea....

even PC fair is the same...u do not get great deals in PC Fair...you can get same deals negotiating with the sellers from their outlets...then hv to pay exorbitant parking fee in KLCC area, the crowd molesting your every body parts as you work your way through, the no-attention given to you by sellers...hv to buy a trolley to transport your PC/printer to the car park...why buy at PC fair really dun understand...

BD, CD & DVD or maybe some interconnects and HDMI cables may be of sale, but i hope guys going to the KLIAV are not expecting a 50% discount of major HT brand equipments...just go and enjoy the showcase of all latest HT equipments, new tech etc etc...

just coming back from the show....nice event. not as crowded as i thought. i went there at 12.30pm.
it's just a tad stupid that it's held at different floors such as level 7..then 4. the wait at the lift is too long although there are many lifts. using the stairs is faster.

the only freebies you'll get is a small coupon for lucky draw and a small bag for you to stuff in brochures.

Desa is clearing stocks for the 2009-2010 series AVR. some latest demo units are for sale at low price too.

Sony and Panasonic are showing their 3D displays. AE-4000 projector is for demo. Optoma HD20, HD85 and Vivitek H1080 are everywhere. Avatar is everywhere too

htkaki has HD20+92" screen for RM4999. nice deal!

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Jul 23 2010, 05:22 PM

Samsung also showcasing their 3D displays but in the right corner on the 4th floor (below the stairs). They had a non 3D full HD 63" for sale but was unable to provide me with model number (it was going for RM10k display unit price) Panasonic had some pretty huge displays on showcase; 108" and 65". Very nice but probably take a few lifetimes of earnings to afford one.

I'm impressed with the real 3D titles (Monster vs Aliens). Too bad no Avatar in 3D, the 2D to 3D converted picture isn't as great.

Checked out the Dune player too on the 8th floor. Pretty sweet I think, but if I decide to go with a 3D display, then I'll have to get a 3D blu-ray player so I won't need the Dune. But very impressive player that.

Ton of movies on the hard drive to display, and only 2 bluray I saw earlier (Baraka and Apocalypto) displayed on the 50V20K plasma.

I believe the Denon AVR-1911,2311 and 3311 were up for display/sale as well on the 4th floor. Can't remember which room it was in.

One good thing this time, I didn't see anyone smoking or spitting in the staircase area. I was there early so I wouldn't know about the later crowds. Just a little weird, do companies really display and demonstrate products in tiny hotel rooms? Was this to save cost or something for the expo?



This post has been edited by refnulf: Jul 23 2010, 05:29 PM

any nice 5.1 setup around 2.5k-3k.if got tell me sunday i terus turun kl.

Hey guys any headphone freaks here? I would like to know if there is any high quality computer DAC for headphone less than RM1k other than those sold by JABEN? I would like to know if there is any other offerings from other company/shop so next time i can check it out from their shops.

sorry, wrong post.

This post has been edited by refnulf: Jul 23 2010, 05:43 PM

How much are the 2311 and 3311 ??

Ahh, not sure. I saw the prices at a glance since I wasn't buying em.

I think the 3311 was over 7k, the 2311 over 5k and the 1911 over 3k.

Maybe someone else can confirm?

eh why no pictures one? i can only be there on sunday, i wanna listen to the manger, looks pretty cool, also anyone know that what high end speaker CMY is showing? IS it eh Dynaudio consequence?

also looking at JBL huge speakers.. haha hope can make my RM 10 worth every penny this year, last year was good also....

Haha, RM200k per set those speakers. Imagine the AVR needed to power em!

AVR also cannot power it up nicely. need dedicated power amp

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Jul 23 2010, 08:22 PM