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post Jun 8 2010, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(skool87 @ Jun 8 2010, 01:29 PM)
compare to android,what iOS4 lack?
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i prefer android with lots of widgets and can customized it..and it is "open"
android is not perfect but same with iOS4...
i owned iphone 3g for 1 year+ and i guess time to make a change with other OS
i just choose a phone that suitable for me..
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post Jun 8 2010, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(objectifyme @ Jun 8 2010, 01:35 PM)
The iPhone is a more consumer-friendly phone. That's why it is not as "open" as the Android. Apple is all about customer satisfaction.
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thats a reason that i aim for android.. tongue.gif
iphone is a nice phone and happy with it..

but i boring with my iphone de sad.gif and need more customizable phone..
maybe i will wait until july(at australia) and test out the iphone 1st coz i still waiting N1 to be release in australia...
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post Jun 8 2010, 12:57 PM

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guess nokia2003 will line up again during launch in australia like last year tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2010, 01:26 PM

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just wondering why iphone 4 dont make it to at least 3.7"?
i love bigger screen especially HD2 and evo 4g
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post Jun 8 2010, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(hirota @ Jun 8 2010, 03:32 PM)
then have u compare their average salary with our average salary here?
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have u compare their expenses and tax?
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post Jun 8 2010, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(o2grexg @ Jun 8 2010, 04:42 PM)
So any idea of flash on iphone 4? it's gonna be boring without flash capability while browsing through some web pages
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there is no flash for iphone,ever
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post Jun 8 2010, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 8 2010, 04:57 PM)
@stringfellow,
Lol... But I thought you'd always been generous with us here.  Alrighty then, U know my email/phone number/IM so muAHaahHAhahAHahahA whatever entails, don't forget me.

I now only hope the AU units will be launched early Jul cause I've someone coming back (from Perth though) on 15 Jul - let's see how it rolls smile.gif
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Vodafone Australia stated it will be coming in weeks..
but i saw some article that Telstra & Vodafone will bring it at end of July...
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QUOTE(prasys @ Jun 8 2010, 05:22 PM)
Bah nothing new and it seems to be the biggest hype ever. I think I am going to sell iPhone 3G and move to Android. The reason why is that I dont see anything fascinating with it. Video calls which can't even be used over our 3G network.

I think Android might be the way to go from now. I might have gotten an unit myself if it had extras but then nothing is new apart from the new 5MP camera + flash + iMovie + larger resolution. Sorry Apple , you'll be losing me. A lot of apps yes but then I thought I would get more from it as in like front facing camera , ability to video chat with friends via 3G and not to mention to chat with iChat users/MSN (not sure if Apple is going to open up that). But giving up apps and the nice interface for something umm that well I'll have to think more about it. I guess I'll pass for now
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i might be jump ship soon...

but for sure i will miss the smoothness touchscreen from iphone and lot of fun apps...not to say,the design of iphone 4 just gorgeous but i guess fingerprint will be an issue?


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hmm,how if telco from malaysia dun have micro-sim plan for iphone yet when u get iphone 4 from Australia(example)?
u still need to wait the microsim first to use the iphone right?if not jsut use ipad micro sim with data only...
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jun 8 2010, 06:13 PM)
@hihihehe,
The MicroSIM is out oredi lah - if really don't have or cannot get them manually mutilate the SIM card tongue.gif
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i know but only for ipad right?which means cannot make a call,sms,etc..only for data
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QUOTE(mrportable @ Jun 8 2010, 06:15 PM)
DIY  biggrin.gif
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but many ppl still duno how to DIY

QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Jun 8 2010, 06:15 PM)
betul jugak... hmm.gif no words from digi about multi sim ya...at least maxis oredi have micro sim for data purpose
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ya, and if that person wan to use with digi/celcom then they got not choice or DIY


Added on June 8, 2010, 4:19 pmand looks like the price quoted from AT&T starts to confuse many ppl again...lol

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post Jun 8 2010, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(s3an_looi @ Jun 8 2010, 06:22 PM)
Kidding about the price.

How's the life cycle 1 year? I think with a phone like this it should last around 2-3 years.
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so far my iphone 3g still work very well after 1 and a half year..i dropped duno how many hundred times but working well...

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 10 2010, 02:35 AM)
i think alot ppl got misleading about apple multi task. Even old phones like Nokia 7650 can multi task many many years back then. Today apple multi task not all application run at real time right? It will pause one and run another like a switcher
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but i watched the keynote where steve job demo multitasking with tap-tap revenge and other apps,when he switch back to tap-tap revenge from other apps,the tap-tap still running without pause...

QUOTE(epool86 @ Jun 10 2010, 10:20 AM)
Nothing special about iphone4, I'm expecting they come out with better product but I wrong. With the price u can actually get much more better device.

But one thing for sure, apple fanboy will buy it and proud with it on the street without knowing some people is actually laughing at them because trying to show off their lousy device.

No offense, just my opinion.
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Jun 10 2010, 11:15 AM)
We all know video call has been around for years. I'm myself have been using it for 2 years.  However, there are several limitation to video call technology:

1. It strictly requires 3G reception or higher, no less, so the area you are in is utmost important
2. It requires phone with front-facing camera, ideally (because some phone with only rear camera do have video call function)
3. It requires persons on both end of the video call to abide no 1 & 2
4. Data charges
5. Extreme lagginess of video frame rate

Thus, I don't see an evolution or even revolution is in the making.

Plus, now with iPhone 4, it has add in another two more limitations:

1. With iPhone 4, you can make a video call to another iPhone 4 only. not even 3Gs will get the special treatment, though without front facing camera, we know FaceTime is able to use the rear camera.
2. Wifi only for the time being.

I believe I understand the reason for using wifi for FaceTime. 3G/3.5G unable to give you the kind of user experience that you expect to get from video call. Low frame rate means both of your voice and video will response to the other caller after 3-4 seconds later. Being Apple, they wish to give the ultimate experience to their customer. And lousy frame rate is not what they have in mind. Since 3.5G is the fastest and widely use right now, they have to resort to wifi until LTE comes alive probably next year in the US. If LTE do start operational next year in US, probably we can expect iPhone 4G to be launched. And that will be the right tonic to FaceTime
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r u sure ur number 4 point is true?
long agi i always play 3g video call from my nokia phone with other friends and there is no data charges like u said
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Jun 10 2010, 11:36 AM)
BTW, this is a little bit OT, but I realized that some persons are barkingly mad when iPhone is being criticised for being unable to customised wallpaper, multitask etc (OS 3.0).  Get another phone, these persons said. But these guys also championing the JB method which is a cure to some of the deficiencies of the iPhone. If they really stick to the  standard features of iPhone, why do they JBed it?

I don't JB my phone because I love it as it is. If you have something that so valuable you won't change it to your liking. If I do have an Audi A4 for example, I won't change it to something else. Not even skirting or useless stickers etc. Only those that bought wira modified it like an EVO, which actually made it uglier.

iPhone is not perfect. But so do to other phone. It's your call.


Added on June 10, 2010, 9:40 am

My mistake. It should be video call rate. Must be mistakenly with internet data charges. What I meant here, the rate is still quite high to some users and that prevent them from using it frequently.
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alamak..different ppl different preferences mah
JB can do more thing such as tweaking,etc...
like ur example of car,is not about sticker or skirt,etc..those just appearance..JB is like modify the engine of car..push it to another level or modify your car to do more than that(increase bhp,etc)
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although iOS4 cover some of the features from JB, but there is still some features that iOS4 cant do..SBSettings is 1 of it..others like 5 icons dock,lock info,etc...
so is up to each users whether they want their iphone do more than that or not
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 10 2010, 12:31 PM)
Iphone4 biggest changes is the battery life that is the most relevant, others is add on

I like a phone that can last 300hrs on standby which prooved iphone is a great smart phone.... most of the smart phone today even blackberry has battery life problem...
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we still duno yet whether the battery life can tahan or not...iphone spec stated it can last 300hours on standby but when u use it in hand is different thing..just wait until it release then only can find out
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QUOTE(yuvanesh @ Jun 10 2010, 10:33 PM)
a4 is much improve version than a8 processor...a4 proccessor is like for ipad
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but hummingbird cortex a8 processor in samsung galaxy s is slightly faster than a4 chip right?
i saw this in somewhere..need to dig it out
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jun 11 2010, 01:07 AM)
my guess is "engineered glass" = marketing term tongue.gif 'engineered [something]' doesnt make any sense. i cant find an official statement from Apple saying it's sapphire glass. i guess if it is, wouldn't it be a feature to tout?

supposedly apple used a type of glass with more strength n hardness compared to normal glass. just wait and see, there's always those people who buy the latest apple gadgets juz so they can destroy it on youtube
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already broken tongue.gif

user posted image

http://gizmodo.com/5559977/first-broken-ip...-that-resistant
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QUOTE(s3an_looi @ Jun 12 2010, 02:47 PM)
user posted image

Iphone 4 shatters when dropped.. .shame:
http://www.ozcarguide.com/technology/cellp...phone-4-display
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posted few pages back
actually if you take good care of your phone,then u should not worry about it
u cant avoid it if the time really come tongue.gif

QUOTE(objectifyme @ Jun 12 2010, 02:50 PM)
Ah, okay. Sorry. The black didn't seem as if it had one. My bad. smile.gif
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should have but not visible as in white model?

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