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NST
Letter to the Editor
It has to be cheaper

2010/03/29


FOR months, there was so much hype about the government's initiative to provide more affordable and faster broadband service.

On March 25, it came as a shock that the so-called "affordable and fast broadband" packages for home users start at RM149 for five megabits per second (Mbps), and ranges up to RM249 for 20Mbps package.

To many Malaysians, this sum is a huge commitment. Many were expecting prices from RM50 onwards.

In Singapore, according to a report, one can get one gigabit per second (Gbps) package which is five times the speed of a 20 Mbps service for the equivalent of RM200. Most Singaporeans earn five times more than Malaysians.

Thus, RM200 for a 1Gbps line is small change to a Singaporean. But our mere 5Mbps at RM149 is big money to the average Malaysian. To some, it's money to feed the family for a week.

Clearly, the pricing does not take into account the purchasing power of Malaysians and the remuneration the average Malaysian earns, and the fact that the average person's pay packet is not in proportion to the cost of living in Malaysia.

In comparison, the six Mbps broadband in Singapore (offered by Singtel), with unlimited downloads, costs S$30 (RM70.60) per month and the 15Mbps broadband with unlimited downloads costs S$62.

The mobile broadband with a free USB stick and with a speed of 1.2Mbps costs S$14 per month with a 30GB allowance (offered by Starhub). Singaporeans earn far more than the average Malaysian and yet their broadband is much cheaper.

So, how can the average person afford RM149 for the service?

R. GANESH

Petaling Jaya

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Check out Singtel and Starhub


http://info.singtel.com/personal/communication/internet
http://info.singtel.com/personal/communica...obile/data-plan

http://www.starhub.com/broadband/homebroadband.html
http://www.starhub.com/promotions/broadban...obilebasic.html

I still remember some minister saying we have the cheapest Internet in this region.

This post has been edited by joe_mamak: Mar 29 2010, 11:14 AM

like tm cares..
rm149 is okay but 60gb is

they won't f**king learn their lesson until somebody kill their CEO!!!!!!!!

made it cheap stupid retard company shitmyx!!!!!!

c how is the response 1st. response good , no lower the price , response no good lower the price, and those who grab early can tumbuk the chest hard hard due to kiasuness

but its marketing gimmick? put a higher price so tat later can have "promotion" or "discount"

You need to take a chill pill.

To NST:



and

i will resort to use 28.8 kpbs

they can start by reducing streamyx price first to target the low and middle income group

they are going to realise the price is absurd when less ppl sign up.

but there are still some signing up anyways!

stopped reading at that point

tmnut go dai pl0x

They are in a strong position by virtue of being a monopoly.

BTW, didn't the government cough up some money for this HSSB initiative? That's our tax payers money.

If we didn't cough it up, I suppose the price would be even higher.

really, nst should give a perfect figure, not making up the figure. 1gbps is 5 times faster than unifi 20mbps? heh..

This post has been edited by soundsyst64: Mar 29 2010, 11:09 AM

Unifi doesn't have to be cheap. Heck it can be expensive as much as TM likes. Streamyx however has to be cheap but it's not!!!!

FU TM.

But you have to take into account that HSBB is Symmetric. So the download/upload speed is the same.

its already cheap..you already been subsidized with rm500 tax cut, but first have to pay tax first

Another one who does not know mathematics

i want to see the result first,

if around 2 - 3 months ok (speed, stability etc) then i subscribe

but if result same shit as old package, who wouldn't piss off???

I'll swear somebody gonna die if they won't change their stupid mentality over this matter.

speedtest say otherwise

I'm pretty sure that the monthly cap has been removed. I do agree though that internet here is ridiculously expensive, and it's all because of the monopoly that TM has on last mile cabling.

Singapore do not have 1 Gbps connection yet, but they are going to introduce it in their NGN project.

wow guess there is still idiots who actually believe their little scam, well done TM!

a good time to decide is after 1 year or lots of users already subscribe it. from there, check at network section to see if there's any rant about unifi

how sure u are?
they only say no cap 4 now(beta testers), not 4ever(potential customers)

This post has been edited by zerorating: Mar 29 2010, 11:15 AM

That's a Letter to the Editor. Not written by NST. Though they should have corrected it.

Will amend the post.

Happy holidays!

remember, remove and suspend are two different words with different meanings

in this case, TM suspend the cap, not permanently remove it

True enough. But its a start. Of course, when they say no capping, they never mentioned no throttling...

This post has been edited by v1n0d: Mar 29 2010, 11:16 AM

one more thing for dunggus who write letter like these without proper research. Singtel blocks a lot of p2p traffic and downloading for a lot of torrent websites. ...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

They're the only service provider...what to do? Luckily I'm staying in a condo and am using TIME Broadband. No cap. No throttle (download torrents at 200kb/sec) and pay RM99 for a 2mbps line. Pretty steep, but at the speed I'm enjoying, I have no problem.

Will there be even another true 'competitor' to TMNut? I don't think so. Wireless is still long way to go...so we'll have to bite the bullet and pay the high cost of getting connected.

for low income group, the tax cut doesn't do much when you do not have much tax to pay
it might be cheap for you but for all you know many people out there still could not afford it

MR149 and comes with VOIP phone calls with the phone itself, and IPTV which will integrated with ASTRO around Juna (i heard) with VOD service.

I think thats quite good but not the cap.

like tm dont do

betul betul betul...banyak betul, betul betul betul

Broadband is no longer a luxury, in fact it is slowly becoming a neccessity. The US has acknowledged this by proposing a national broadband project, aimed at making 10Mbps the national average speed received. Fact is, as long as TM maintains their monopoly, the overpricing of internet services is here to stay.

tm throttle everything (DDL hosting, p2p, Youtube) for no good reason, yeah I think tm is a lot worse than singtel.

Nelayan takde internet boleh je buat duit

i don't know...but 5 years ago, american already enjoyed 7mbps for end user connection

when there is no competitor in telco, they can rules the market

failed mathematics and journalism... lol!

u can kill me for that matter. 016 313 PM ME

ade laju pun u guys download je lebih. good job tm. please block more sites

the purity of malaysiamust be defended

hail dear leader for his generous gift

No internet => boredom => excessive reproduction. It is in the interest of this nation that the fishermen receive affordable internet service.

This post has been edited by v1n0d: Mar 29 2010, 11:28 AM

Have internet => increase libido => excessive reproduction.

this is a bashing thread right?

Which is good actually. p2p is a grossly inefficient way to do anything anyway.

They were on DSL.

FTTH, Verizon FiOS

I don't do p2p/torrenting anymore. Yet I can hit my Celcom Wireless Broadband cap easily. Like the time I downloaded 1 GB of software. That already took up 20% of my monthly download limit.

I can live with an ISP that blocks p2p/torrenting. But over here they, as far as the wireless broadbands, are concerned, they don't discriminate p2p/torrenting and other ordinary downloads. I can live with an ISP that blocks p2p/torrenting.

Looking at Singtel, they are so generous - the monthly download limit is 30 GB for 1 Mbps and it only cost S$22.42 ~ RM53.00

Here I pay RM99 for 1 Mbps and the limit is 5 GB.

WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF

Maxis do have HSBB and they doing some testing now. I guest maxis is waiting tmnut launch and see how consumer respond and pricing.

Maxis wired broadband is reliable

It was a letter to the editor; from a reader.

It should be 100 Mbps and not 1 Gbps.

But the catch is the monopoly on last line cabling. Let's hope that TM isn't draconian with the rental cost.

It is true. Maxis BB give 100% speed and not best afford.

i would have preferred that they lower the existing broadband prices...

Hail Najis, May He Die Faster

This post has been edited by ahpek26: Mar 29 2010, 11:34 AM

If they gave unlimited bandwidth at that price, its acceptable, but if you reduce the bandwidth and then charge premium price, then you stupid... lol!

Who was that dumbass minister who said Malaysia had the cheapest broadband in the region??? 1 Mbps @ RM 88... What a joke...

at the end of the day the users are never satisfied

i just came back from us forum and they say US ISPs are shit despite you guys louding them like gods

weird eh?

Sorry... I has phailed at posting... lol!

If no complain then eveliday kena buttsek here and there, manyak sakit wo

Gov gip Telekom 2.1 billion MYR for this HSBB project.

Telekom gip x% of 2.1billion to accenture for the software imeplementation system (Siebel,Oracle) and I bet it must be high coz almost more than half of whole accenture workforce is in TM HSBB proj.

Accenture ppl nao happy coz has earned our taxpayer money liao.

This post has been edited by chezzball: Mar 29 2010, 01:29 PM

The locate bandwith is control by the gov. Tmnut is giving the most bandwith and digi is the less. That is why digi cannot offer even 3g.

Maxis no cap on p2p and torrent.

You work for Accenture?

everyone who work there on vacation suffice to say he she isn't

chiper and priced at rm 10 i consider

was with them before.. but cabuted liao

Not going to support for this kind of price.

no la, the accenture staff just enjoy their normal salary but right now they're working like hell for hsbb system (siebel)

nope.. ummm since i'm not in acn anymore i think it is alrite to disclose some info

as u know acn also got sap consultants... and they were reluctantly transferred to the hsbb project. of coz thy wan resign la.. but now u can see quite a num of sap experienced ppl doing siebel (not a smart move) but why were they willingly doing this? 1 of my excolleague said the mgmt promise him 19 months bonus, and some increments

http://web.thestarmobile.com/news.jsp?article=130065&page=3

The Star screwed up their own article, the guy who wrote the letter just repeated what they wrote.

ok you kena isa today, good luck

cos us mareshian love flogging dead horse.

wait till they enforce streamyx cap to force everyone onto Unifi

" btw i never touch hsbb proj b4 so i got nth to do with it.

to all those feel insecure over this, TMNUT just send a message to with only a picture as reply

the sheeps here dont know the true condition of US broadband infrastructure. i was there for about 4 years and the DSL service were just as bad as streamyx here. k/sheeps should look up to jap, skorea and northern european countries instead

Yeah, a lot of places don't even have broadband. Read about a kid who asks his mom to update his facebook for him at her workplace.

IF they dont charge high high price...


how are they going to afford a collection of Lambos and mercs..

lol.. Malaysians can afford CR-V at RM150k, Camry at RM160k, plenty of Estima, Alphard on the street

now they want to complaint on RM159 per month?

lolol...

sapa suruh sokong 1Malaysia... stupiak

g0v promise for cheap broadband and cheaper than streamyx.You call RM 159 cheap ?

i spent that much for my breakfast

that is chump change for rich guy like me. lets face it. poor people dont deserve HSBB. they dont even have triple SLI pc with HD monitors. they are lower subhumans

bla...bla...bla...

90% of the user here who complain are the ones going to subscribe

Speed is drugs nobody can deny it.

Streamyx enjoice and laugh at all you whiners

Paid RM100 for 2Mbit Maxis wired broadband and enjoying it.

dah cheap dol~

4mbps shitmyx cost how much??

hsbb 5mbps cost how much?

we got rolled by TM yo~ cheaper = facts but...... u know~

can I have some C-4 for mah thanksgiving gifts

Even though Celcom BB has a 5GB limit, but there is a way to reset it back to full speed. Iam using the 384kbps speed, and with this reset method, I can download 1.5GB everyday. Don't believe me? Just email to him switch2unlimited@yahoo.com.my and you will know the rest.

omg thats sosad, what will we ever do without facebook

the country is too big and the population is sparse...

but then again, why arent the metropolitan cities wired up to the brink? why isnt there any city-wide commercial and residential 100mbps in NY, Boston, LA where the population is mega dense? they say it's all about the lack of competition. the lack of governmental action actually spurred anti-competitiveness...

compare that to skorea where the government took the lead in introducing hsbb (that's a general term u dmbfks) to the masses.

at least our government recognize the need for hsbb network, so give them some credits where it is due yeh, k/sheeps?

poor people, gtfo the internet pls

butbutbutbutbutbutbububtutbutbutbutubtutbutbut i dun wanna

hero liaw

nais siggy dawg

oh wow TM cares, really, they do

if you cant afford it just stfu ...

So gila about downloading for phucks? Pay so much for bandwidth, buy rapidshare premium accounts and etc.

Mai gawd, like you can download the entire phucking internet.

dun tok kok lar.. malaysians are veli the rich.. DSLR iPhone Fermi neva a problem.. even now Digi want to sell Blackberry and iPhone, see the demand is still high, RM159 for broadband is moot

than it may be true the rumours i heard that the project cost TM more than 7 figures