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QUOTE(numanuma @ Apr 2 2010, 03:30 PM)
When i tried to highlight, the browser will move to the way i highlight it. No option for copy at all
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You have to activate the mouse first.

Slide your stylus/finger from the LEFT (outside the display area) and slide to the RIGHT into the display area.
You will see a mouse appear (if not try again).
When the mouse appear, a small button on the bottom left with the mouse should also be available for you to turn on the mouse permanently.

With the mouse, you can highlight the text and do other stuffs that requires mouse interaction.
After highlighting, you can use CTRL+C on the keyboard to copy the text, and CTRL+V to paste.

Watch the last part of this video, which I show how to activate the mouse and what you can do with it:


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QUOTE(monked @ Apr 2 2010, 04:11 PM)
the tread is becoming more like a "Compared with N900 tread" instead of helping fellow user  shakehead.gif
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Because someone asked.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 2 2010, 05:53 PM)
MeeGo is finally Out – Try it on your N900 now

http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/meego-i...r-n900-now.html
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DON'T. There's no GUI, it's a very very basic one, only meant for those really pro/hardcore techies.

It's console based.


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QUOTE(Nickimaru @ Apr 2 2010, 05:38 PM)
I found a solution online (from the link above) which helps to resolve this issue. The idea is to change the DNS settings so that it points to a proper DNS server so that it will be able to resolve the app server domain names. In order to do this, one would need to edit their 'resolv.conf' file, stored in '/etc/' folder. Easiest way to do this is through the X Terminal and using the vi editor.
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If you're near a PC, use WinSCP to remote SSH to your N900, you can basically edit files easily, transfer files, etc.

Similarly, be very careful when playing with those system files. There's also another problem with the Wi-Fi where some Wi-Fi were not able to obtain the DNS, even tough you're connected, so you can't surf the net. It will require editing some files too, need to find back the thread in maemo-talk forum.


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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 2 2010, 06:03 PM)
Btw, just wanna double check. it has window live messenger too right?
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For this phone, you can forget about having a "separate" application to IM (Instant Messenger).

Basically, you can INTEGRATE pretty much of the IM to your contacts.
What do I mean? Basically, your contacts can LINK with Skype, OVI, Facebook Chat (through jabber, or other 3rd party plugins), msn/yahoo/icq/etc through 3rd party plugins.
So, WHEN you connect to the Internet, these account will automatically try to login, unless you disable them. During this moment, your phone may lag because all these are trying to login.

How to chat? The chat is through your Conversations. Basically your SMS and IM conversations are here.
The default outlook is nothing spectacular, but you can customize it (unlike other smartphone).

But, if you really want a dedicated MSN application, search for aMSN. This MSN app anytime beat most (if not all) other MSN app on other smartphone FLAT FLAT. aMSN is very powerful and rich app close to our Windows based MSN, but it's not yet a complete version. You can google this for the screenshot and see how it looks compared to other smartphone version which is very very basic and simple.


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QUOTE(jloi @ Apr 2 2010, 09:04 PM)
Heard there's alot ppl got black & white screen only after ported to Meego
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Yup, currently MeeGo is only console base (e.g. X-Terminal).
It's not for end user, it's for the pros, or those who want a taste of MeeGo, but should know all the steps to flash the device even if the device is bricked (bricked means your phone is dead, you need to recover/reformat and reflash, something like your PC windows crash and cannot start).

For us, just wait for PR1.2

QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 2 2010, 08:43 PM)
thanks a lot again. GUYS ! THE MORE I TALK, THE MORE IM CONVINCED N900 IS ALMOST FLAWLESS AND UNBEATABLE.
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nonetheless, i tink the onli 2 tiny little problem which is:
1.battery(i know its unavoidable cause its powerfulness  tongue.gif ) is the best solution dc-11?
2.will there be something like n97 into n97mini? iphone3g into 3gs? its not tat im trying to cari pasal, its just tat im gonna buy this phone and it will be another more or less 10 years b4 i change another phone cause im really saving alot of money to buy a stable phone that can last me a long time =) i dont mind if the phone will not be the best but are there any leak information bout a slighty upgraded version of n900 coming out ?  icon_question.gif
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If you want to use for 10 years, then you can forget about iPhone.
Put on average, the iPhone battery might last you around 1~1.5 years depending on usage, longer if you're lucky. Changing the battery isn't like any other Nokia/Sony Ericson/etc phone, you can't just buy a cheap OEM battery and use... The battery price, I'm not sure, but definitely not less than RM150? Then you have to think about the labour to dismantle your iPhone to replace your battery... As usual, once a device has been dismantle before, problems might start cropping up if the work is not done well.
Plus, the LCD itself, if damaged, cost over RM1000 (as read from a blog).

Basically for Battery, if you're getting a smartphone, you shouldn't expect the battery to last as long as the non-smart phone, unless it comes with high capacity original battery. The N900 if you really want to save the battery, it can last you up to 3 days most probably, means charging interval of 3 days once.
But then, you get this phone is TO ENJOY, why do you worry and try so hard to save the battery and ended up not able to enjoy it? You can charge it everyday, doesn't matter. A typical battery have around 300-500 charge cycles (1 charge cycle = 100% usage, not how many time you charge). Let's say your battery give away after say 1.5 years, with Nokia/Sony Ericson/etc, you can get OEM battery for less than RM50 and it performs up to par with original battery (some claims better). So, why worry about battery? Unless you're using iPhone, then you have to really worry.

As for build quality:
Is your current phone a Nokia? If yes, then you roughly know the quality of Nokia phones. This is my first AP Nokia phone, but this N900 AP Set is a US Set, made in Korea. Previous forwarded mails have mentioned to avoid certain countries model, not sure how true, but so far the official set I have are all of good quality, and hopefully it will continue... notworthy.gif (Pray Pray)

And if you search YouTube for N900 Stress Test, you can find out the N900 has very good build quality, they even did a few drop test, sit on the phone test, water test (horrible). The LCD, N97 have more durable LCD, but probably that's why it's less responsive? Not sure. Nonetheless, it's very heart-breaking to see the fellar torture the N900, why not just give it to me tongue.gif

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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 2 2010, 10:00 PM)
nope i just shocked nia LOL
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Since you've never use a smartphone before, it'll be a BIG leap for you. You might have a lot to discover and possible many frustrations because smartphones are like a mini computer, and like a computer, there will be time where it will lag, slow, hang, etc. Unlike a normal phone, which is fast, because it is simple and just does the job.

The N900 on the surface is very simple, but it can be a very complicated/sophisticated phone/device depending on the user.

If you want a phone that is simple and easy to use, probably iPhone is a good choice as it has been much improved and stable. Or you can go for Symbian devices, like N97/N97 mini, or if you prefer Sony, got for Satio which have much better camera, nice looks, high quality video recording, nice screens, or go for Samsung. Symbian OS I would say is a very easy to use and fast to learn OS, at least for me and several of my friend was able to learn it very quickly.
Or if you prefer Android, can check out Motorola Milestone which look very much like the N900, but slimmer. Or if you prefer Sony, the X10... or if you want superb screen, check out the Samsung I9000 with Super AMOLED. The design looks very much like iPhone, it runs on Android and the screen is crazy clear and stunning.

Anyway, just to show off the Desktop Concept of Maemo OS, as I've mentioned, the Desktop is not like any other smartphones OS, it's like your Windows Desktop, you can place icons/widgets as you like, customize it.
Check out all the different Desktop design from other users depending on their preference and creativity.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=591293#post591293

Oh, finally, and again, although many people says N900 lacks of games/apps, perhaps they forget about Flash app/games, there're easily much much more flash games/apps in the web compared to iPhone app/games. And since N900 support Flash... well, need to say more? icon_rolleyes.gif
Of course, Flash is also coming to other smartphone OS, but iPhone I'm not sure.

Oh, and again, I almost forgotten... check out the Qt4.6 demo in YouTube
Next time, any app/games develop in Qt4.6 can be install to Symbian, Maemo, Meego, Windows Mobile, etc (except iPhone, not sure about future). Basically, it's like Java Runtime, as long as these OS have Qt.46 libraries, the apps will be supported. So, nothing really to worry about, because future Symbian, Maemo and MeeGo will share most of the apps/games.


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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 2 2010, 11:15 PM)
thanks alot =) notworthy.gif

btw, its all AP et from korea? how i check the origin of the phone?
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My AP Set is US Set. US Set is made in Korea.
I'm not sure about EUR set. Even if the set is made in Korea, seems there is a small/minor customization to the EUR set because they have a slower OTA (Over The Air) updates than US set. But there's always Universal Firmware updates through Nokia Software Updater (NSU).

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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 2 2010, 11:26 PM)
aha! im enlighten by u all  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Most important is you're happy with your choice and the phone. You can always try out all the phone first yourself before you buy, that's the best answer for yourself.

After you buy, don't look back and regret, look forward, learn to use the phone, utilize it and enjoy it. There will always be newer and better phone, and technologies moves VERY fast. Unless you're very rich to change the phone often, otherwise, just enjoy your phone, learn it and utilize it.

I can honestly tell you this is the ONLY phone which can make me non-stop using it almost all the time, before sleep, i will play with it, even just looking at the Desktop it is nice. If can really replace your laptop for surfing if you didn't carry one or lazy to carry out here and there. Plus, with FM transmitter, you can play videos in your car while the sound output through FM to your car's Radio. It's nice. It's one phone that can make one keep on playing and using it.

If you really made up your mind, I would strongly suggest you to subscribe to 3G data plan package. If somehow you do NOT want to (or for the moment, unsure if you need it), make sure you go to the Internet Settings and change the settings to "Always Ask", so that it doesn't connect automatically to network (3G/2G) when there is no Wifi. It happen to someone before and I think his bill is over RM500.

Again, most important is yourself, make sure you are happy with your choice. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Apr 2 2010, 11:46 PM)
Purpose of having an online forum is to have a pleasant discussion and assist each other when a query arises.

Of course everything could be Googled and found online, then what's the purpose of having forum?

In a way, I kinda dislike spoon-feeding but at times I'm one of them too. Simply because the users themselves can give better answer than those generated results. smile.gif
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Yup, sometimes asking is easier and faster, googling sometimes comes up many different answer (depending on questions), and sometimes people wants to hear from the owners; But of course, it'll be helpful if people search the thread for questions that's already ask because many questions and answer have been repeated many times, since the previous thread, hehe. tongue.gif

Anyway, just enjoy and share if possible. We're all here because of the interest in N900, share, help, etc.
Since the phone is getting famous, we might have occasional forumer who jumps in and make some not nice comments.

Just enjoy the phone icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 2 2010, 11:47 PM)
thx alot  notworthy.gif i wonder how many times i thanked u LOL  tongue.gif

btw, if i use this plan http://www.digi.com.my/prepaid/callplan/index.do i can go online via 3G whole day for online rm5 per day? @@
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RM5 per day?
1 Month = RM150!!?

Why not subscribe to the unlimited plan by DiGi, I think it around RM50++? It's actually 3GB, if use over, the speed will reduce.

Maxis charge RM58 for 500MB data plan. If use over, they'll charge $$$.

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 2 2010, 11:57 PM)
user posted image
Taken from N900
I notice Nokia N900 Iso sensitivity only reach 400 tat will be an issue taking without flash
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The picture you take has really great quality. I'm really impressed!

My one has lots of noise, even set to lowest ISO sensitivity. Even the reviews talk about the noise.

What sensitivity did you set to?
That's an indoor shot right?

Or possibly the newer batch N900 have better lens? cry.gif
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QUOTE(firstknight @ Apr 3 2010, 12:01 AM)
i got problem with cafe world... you have or not??
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Can't, the game use too heavy resource, it take ups the memory and causes the browser to stop responding when I try it the first time, after finish loading that is.

Probably see if it works when N900 gets Flash 10 updates, which was said to be able to utilize the GPU. If yes, then I believe it might be smoother and better? We'll see...
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QUOTE(firstknight @ Apr 3 2010, 12:10 AM)
haha i read three times liao it say the same thing wor bro...
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YES, I'M A "FEMALE" SO, FOR GOODNESS' SAKE, STOP CALLING ME "BRO". IT'S ANNOYING.

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QUOTE(lordskarn @ Apr 3 2010, 08:17 AM)
The FM transmitter works not only for Songs / Audio, but also for Video!! That means you can mount N900 on the car, use FM transmitter to send the audio to the car speakers, and watch a movie / video & enjoy the sound on the car speakers!! (Caution - Dont watch a movie and drive! *wink wink*)

To do this, play a song first and turn on FM Transmitter & Save (Click on Now Playing on top of the Media Player, click on FM transmitter, select your desired frequency & save), then go back to media library and play a video instead. The FM Transmitter will continue to transmit..!!
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Yup, few of us have been doing that, hehe. It's great during traffic jam or traffic lights; I don't really pay much attention to the videos, but putting the videos on, somehow makes you less stressful when traffic jam or you won't feel you're stuck in the jam/waiting for traffic light for very long. Just make sure pay attention to the road.

It also works for Web Page:


QUOTE(numanuma @ Apr 3 2010, 10:19 AM)
One question.

This phone has 256MB RAM, rite?
What's the idle memory consumption for this phone? I see mine one is quite high when its idle (no 3g connection, not connected to wifi). Its shows here the consumption is about 240MB. Only left below than 10MB. Is it normal?
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Do you mean from the System Info widget? My desktop is packed, except FB Applet which I remove. When idle it's using about 150MB, and when online it goes up to 160MB++ or more.
From Conky app, I can see another 130++MB swap memory usage. (not sure if it's using the internal 32GB or my micro SD card).

If you're talking about rootfs, then yes, if you install a lot of devel apps which are not optified, it'll take up your rootfs. Here's some instructions to free up rootfs space, but there might be problems for some instructions:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_up_rootfs_space


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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 3 2010, 06:15 PM)
its 1k. bingo guys ! xD

according to the seller he used few days onli. im satisfied with it.

Just wish that there isnt any hidden problems =)

now! next mission. SHIELD !

its zagginvishield the best? i wanna protect my baby with 100000%care
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Bro! 1K!!!??? and you think for so long?
you're very lucky, that really a bargain. if i let me my friend know, he might have bought it immediately without checking further. the buyer really wait for you for so long?

Anyway, glad to hear you're happy with the phone. take ur time to learn the phone and enjoy!

ps: 1k is really a steal, when N900 first launch and no AP available yet, people who brought in the phone from oversea are selling at least 3.3k!!!

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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 3 2010, 10:29 PM)
but its not new. it was bought around nov-jan. im not sure..

btw, thx alot andy. u reply as fast as a lightning xD
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@ RM1K, that's a big steal, never seen so low 2nd hand N900 before, even RM1.5K is rare. Hope you unit is in good condition, if yes, then you're very lucky and should be grateful/thankful about it.

Perhaps because you're not familiar with smartphones pricing and Nokia's high end model pricing; Even the official set @ RM2280 is considered cheap, considering Nokia's high end device official set is usually > RM2.5K. The N900 is currently most powerful Nokia's N series phone and yet, it's only priced RM2280 for official set. This is probably to compete with the market and other competitor which also priced around the same price range.

Even before N900 AP set available, those that import the phone personally are selling it for around RM3.3K and there is people who buy it, and the warranty? None, you can register online but the warranty will be in US.
So, if there're people willing to pay RM3.3K for a no warranty device, you can imagine official set selling for RM2280 is a good price or not.


QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Apr 3 2010, 11:35 PM)
hey guys, anyone has any idea where to get invi shield bside zaggshield and tan alliance? they takda stock...
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I think it's better you research more on ZaggShield... it's not like other screen protector. You need to know how to apply, the process is different; and the result and effect it different from normal screen protector. There's rubbery feel to it.
The good thing is the protection is good, but the feel and look is not a desireable factor for some people.

For me, I prefer Crystal Clear and smooth touch.
Even for normal screen protector, there're already 4 different types. Go find out from the screen protector seller. And these are much much more cheaper than Zaggs and it's easy to apply.

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:21 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Taken by Nokia N900
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Man, even your night shots are great! Sweet! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(jloi @ Apr 4 2010, 12:32 AM)

wun leave finger print biggrin.gif..but then when u scratch it win fingernail will got mark there but is erase-able by rubbing it XP..i got it from lowyat plaza..1st floor shop i guess wif RM30 sad.gif
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What screen protector is that??? Is it the matte type? These are anti-fingerprint, but it is not crystal clear type.

I prefer Crystal Clear type, but Matte type is nice to touch (smooth) and anti-fingerprint.

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QUOTE(PyOsE @ Apr 4 2010, 09:47 AM)
Nokia N900 CPU overlocked to 1GHz  rclxms.gif
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How the stability so far? How long have you over-clock it?
How hot was it compared to 700mhz when using at 100% processing.

Btw, I notice your swap usage is 0. Did you have micro SD card? I'm not sure the swap memory usage is on the internal 32GB or micro SD only, if micro SD only, then you should try getting one as I read in maemo-talk, it improve some slight performance, but at the same time, to access swap memory apps will be slower.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:07 PM)
The point is not how fast does the battery runs out the point is can other brand phone do it?
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From my knowledge, Motorola Milestone can be overclock to 1Ghz as well, they're basically using the same ARM Cortex A8 chipset.

As for snapdragon, those 1Ghz version was said to "already" overclock version; some device have lower mhz, such as 700mhz snapdragon, which are "underclocked" version.
Possibility for N900 running at 600Mhz is to preserved the battery life, then overclocking to 1Ghz can be safe? Or it could be the device is meant to run at 600Mhz, so we should only overclock when required.
Something like Sony PSP, it's running at 222Mhz, but we can overclock it to 333Mhz, or underclock it lower. The good thing is that for PSP, we can adjust it easily (after flashing with CFW). Would be great if N900 can adjust the clock easily, so when required, we can manuall change it, oh yeah. icon_rolleyes.gif

Above is just my assumption, please do correct me if I'm wrong tongue.gif


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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:25 PM)
actually if u see the photo source its copy paste from other web. Pyose sharing wit us
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Oops, my bad, hehe.

Btw, currently, AFAIK, doing this requires flashing the device. Few guys at maemo-talk has been running on 800Mhz, 900Mhz and claims good results... but not sure about the stability. I'm also worry if constant high cpu usage might cause problem to the cpu itself, thus if we have the option to adjust during runtime would be best (like the PSP).

But anyway, currently, it's already an awesome news that we can finally overclock the N900; Oh yeah! icon_rolleyes.gif

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N900 overclock to 900Mhz running PSX4ALL.
P/S: possible can run Cafe World now? tongue.gif


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QUOTE(xaiemanx @ Apr 4 2010, 10:58 PM)
how was it???
nice or not???
worth it than iphone???
LoL, again?

Try to use the "Search Topic" function at the bottom.

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