no one can please everyone, so ultimately its down to personal preferences and expectation. They as a gaming company need to sell games, meaning they need to sniff out what is the majority preferences and expectation in the population, and act accordingly.

in the end they might as well pissed off 10 people but makes 100 others buy their product, rather than doing the vice versa

ya i second that... commenting on cheesenium's "You'll play your SC2,while i carry on with my other games."

who cares that you're not playing SC2 lol

it's like someone will say 'you're not going to play SC2? omg please don't!! please play SC2 i beg you~'

sorry abit emo today

I don't know about you, but I think the way EA implemented (or rather, shoved it down the throat) changes/new ideas seriously leaves a lot to be desired. DoW II style gameplay in C&C series aren't all that bad a concept, but seriously, what manner of weed have they been smoking that let them create the fail that is C&C 4?

And if you think Blizzard was bad in sucking up to old fans, try Bungie with their Halo series. Now that's a real suckup. Heh.

You keep saying other companies keep making crappy sequel after a decent game. EA keep milking their fans,while Blizzard dont.

I actually prefer CS:Source than CS1.6,as Source have that same awesome physics effects in HL2.

Fundamentally the same,but the physics makes it different. No more awkward grenade projectile.

Im not forcing anyone not to play SC2, i just want the bashing on other games/developers stop as it's getting more and more as SC2 approaches release.It's true that C&C3/RA3/DoW2/CoH etc are not as balanced or competitive as SC2, is there a need to bash them? Saying that those developers are incompetent,while indirectly saying Blizzard is all awesome because they are loaded enough to support their games for 10 years.

I dont know how HoN is doing,but i heard the Beta is also very good.

EALA is facing financial issues,as they have made like 20million USD losses due to Tiberium.They could not recovered the losses in Uprising as it's just a SP expansion. Probably EA did not give them a huge budget and long development cycle to start with in C&C4 due to their past failures. There are other problems from what i heard like fussy managers,bad management etc. There are rumors that they are going to close shop soon.

What i think is,EALA is almost in the same situation as EA Black Box.

Therefore the game turn totally shit.Why compare a thriving developer with a dying one?

WHoah whoah guys, what's with all the hating?

When i opened this thread, i complained that I hated Starcraft II because it's ruining other potentially good games such as CnC4, DowII, SupCOm2.

I never said Starcraft II, the game itself, is bad. In fact, I'm probably gonna be among the first ones to buy it. I just think that it is irresponsible for Blizzard to not give a release date, since this forces other devs and publishers to rush their games and release them with inferior quality.

their fault, then.
good move on Blizzard's part. the developers must have been choking with laughter at C&C4.

imagine..

Blizzard head developer: Guys! Our copy of C&C4 just arrived in the mail!
Blizzard developer: I knew it'd come.....
Blizzard developer: ....eventually.
(*Blizzard developer starts C&C4*)
Blizzard Developer: What the..
(*checks box*)
Blizzard Developer: Is this really C&C4?
(*checks DVD case*)
Blizzard Developer: THIS is our competition?
(*everyone chokes with laughter, some rofl and fall off their chairs*)
Blizzard Developer: hahaaa. check out the user reviews online! They hate it!
Blizzard head developer: Wow. Looks like the C&C franchise finally bites the dust.

Blizzard Developer: hrrhhhh..
Blizzard Developer: it's about damn time.


SC2 puns absolutely intended.

Thats Blizzard's problem for not releasing relase date and took 5 years just to make a game like this.

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Added on March 26, 2010, 10:31 amYeah yeah yeah,SC2 is always much more awesome than the stuff the competitors make.

Close this thread please. Fanboyism are everywhere.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Mar 26 2010, 10:31 AM

Lol, why so emo.. don't think Bad Company has anything to do with SC2 lah.. totally diff gendre.. relax..

And further more, they're trying hard to fix the game balance and whatever is possible to be fix so that they don't release a bugged game. I'm fine with the release that, else if they promised but they can't release a perfect game out, pretty crap right?

This post has been edited by tango25: Mar 26 2010, 10:36 AM

Fanboyism? lol. I was just posting this for lulz.
I am also an EA fan. Bioware, too.
What's with taking sides. We're the consumer.
WE BENEFIT FROM THEIR COMPETITION.

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Added on March 26, 2010, 10:40 amOh, and I don't understand how people can blame another software company for their own blunder-filled garbage.

if your game is good, it's good. yay!
if your game is bad, it's bad. boo. maybe we'll skip this one. hope you do better next time.

people also shouldn't judge the company based on one lousy game.
sometimes they produce real classics, sometimes there's rubbish.

and ofc, the cliched classic truth: one man's rubbish is another man's treasure.

cheer up, guys.

This post has been edited by hydrogen: Mar 26 2010, 10:41 AM

Agree with hydrogen, We get more choices, why bother?

Precisely, thats why majority rules. Its just a democratic monetary choice.

No, my point is that none other game companies tries to be as supportive and consistent about their games as blizzard. You say that blizzard has the money but since they had bnet they have been doing that. I do not remember any other game developer of doing that. What EA has done in the past was buying games company and make them make bad games. Well they might have changed but they still do make terrible sequels,and I have been disspointed in then one time too many. I'm glad that they have changed for the better, until I have read reviews about their games and tried it myself I will not buy them. Relic did make good games before if not I would not have played DOW day and night right?

Thats the thing with EA they always spam on marketing and pay less attention on game play, even thought they have a good game they do not support it for long enough to be a popular long term sport, ala RA3.

It has always been blizzard's policy when its ready, unless some 1 takes over blizzard and change that its gonna stay the way it is, or the major share holders decides to change how blizzard's operation.

Sorry about me being emo on my previous post.

We can't change people's choices and what they make its either we take it or leave it, besides its just a game or just games which does not affect our lives or future. Please pay stay healthy and happy and not bother so much about games company, if it bothers you so much.

hmm hon by s2 games is doing ok in the beta, with 30k players online playing the game last night since the big 0.3.0.2 patch.

however, of those 30k players, i am not sure how many purchased the game liao.

s2 games has so many servers to maintain, their income is from sales of account, can they make enough to cover for monthly server hosting fees and profit?

Deimos, HoN? I thought this thread is about STC2?

yeah but cheese brought up the topic of hon mah.

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Added on March 26, 2010, 11:29 amyeah but cheese brought up the topic of hon mah.

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Mar 26 2010, 11:29 AM

chill cheese bro, not releasing a release date is blizzard's marketing strategy...i think.

think u should listen to this music, it has some meaning with the lyric

Not to the point of half baked games are being released.

So,your definition of great games from a good company is consistent support. How about those who dont have consistent support? Rubbish in your book,even including games like Witcher, Trackmania, Neverwinternights?

Blizzard definitely have the money,with their cash cow WoW. Does EA have a cash cow? No,not now,as KoToR MMO still in development,and Warhammer Online isnt doing as good as they thought. Does Relic have a cash cow? No, as CoH Online is still in development. They need to put their funds and man power on their upcoming projects than putting them on patching an existing game. Patching cost money,and any Relic gamer wuld have known as this is the main issue why are there so little patches in some Relic games. Blizzard have consistent flow of money,therefore they can afford to put some support once in a while. It's all about the money.

Again,you are saying EA buying companies to make shit. Ever since EA's acquisition of Bioware, have they made any bad games? I dont remember as Mass Effect and Dragon Age are universally acclaimed. Is Mass Effect 2 a terrible sequel? No, it's a total improvement over Mass Effect 1.How about BFBC2? A sequel to BFBC1, is it a terrible game? And why are 230,000 people on PC are playing it online if it's what you have expected: EA make shit sequels. I dont remember Shift is bad, nor Nitro,where both are pretty good. C&C4 is probably the only rotten apple in the basket and you just assume the entire library of current EA games are all rubbish. Is this the same as saying Blizzard is the best developers while the rest is rubbish,on an assumption that they dont support their games as often as Blizzard? I dont see you playing DoW2,as you have said, Relic dont support their games as well as Blizzard. Therefore,they are not good in your book. Thats the reason i say, you go ahead and play your perfectly balanced and supported SC2,while i continue to play other developer's games. They arent perfect, but they offer different experience.

I have no problem with how Blizzard is run as they always want to strive for perfection,but i do have a problem where people are saying Blizzard's competitor's games are rubbish while Blizzard is awesome. Solely on the point that Blizzard games is well supported. It's happening more and more often as SC2 approaches release.

No doubt SC2 is gonna be awesome. The story, the gameplay, and the competitive potential of this game. It's gonna be at least a decent game,even though it's all SC1 in 3D.

I dont see whats wrong of bringing up HoN.

They are probably the closest competitor to Starcraft 2 in terms of competitive capabilities.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Mar 26 2010, 03:12 PM

Above post can be summed up with just one image

DoW 2 might be bad, but you can not deny that DoW needed a huge overhaul thanks to the shitty mechanics.

Come on, only ranged units dealt decent DPS, and melee units were BETTER at their jobs (to tie up ranged units) when they had no morale because they ran faster.

I say DoW 2 was a huge improvement.

This post has been edited by Afoxisko: Mar 26 2010, 03:35 PM

DoW2 was bad,very bad like C&C4, but after the There is Only War patch, the game started to be damn good. Then,CR came and it just get better. It's a fun game to play.

Time and polish will make the game shine.

seriously not funny at all..i understand u tried really hard to be funny : / but its just not...