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post Nov 5 2010, 01:01 PM

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Hi. For watching normal Astro channel, is 720 better than 1080?

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post Nov 6 2010, 11:24 AM

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For watching free to air television program mainly from China and Taiwan etc using larger satellite dish, which 50" plasma most appropriate? Or what sorts of transmission are they using with those programs?

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post Nov 7 2010, 09:52 AM

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Hi. Got 2 question.

1. A stupid question form me, while i know what USB are for in computer but what's it used for in TV? Asking because the 50V has but not the 50U and 50X

2. Are there much difference in picture quality between the V and U and X

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post Nov 8 2010, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Nov 7 2010, 02:58 PM)
The V20 USB is for:

- Panasonic webcam for Vieracast's Skype application
- Wireless dongle (networking; DLNA)
- USB keyboard (for typing instead of using TV remote control to input)
- some other regions has the USB hard disk recording enabled (but not for Malaysia)
- playback of photos/music and videos (limited format) from USB drive
- as I recently discovered, it can be used to charge your PS3 controller while your PS3 is off tongue.gif
Thank you.

You mean, I could copy movies into USB pendrive, plug into this TV and it will play the movie? And which format can it play?

And if you do not have this USB port like the U and X series, how do you play movies then?


Added on November 8, 2010, 11:25 am
QUOTE(PoorMan @ Nov 7 2010, 02:58 PM)
Some say that the difference is very significant and well worth the money. Try to learn more about HDTV buying criterias and the best bet is to see them with your own eyes.
I thought the 50V, 50U and 50X are all 1080? No?

http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/pid/9239/Spec

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post Nov 8 2010, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Nov 8 2010, 01:52 PM)
x20 panel resolution is 1024 x 768, it can accept 1080p signal but display at 720p as its maximum resolution

v20 series got 1080p full HD panel

u20 series, altough it got 1080p panel, it can only support 900 lines of moving picture resolution

you can play movie files either through computer or standalone-alone media player
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Now I was told, if I were to watch 720p program, the X20 would be a better choice than the V20/U20 simply because it does not need to do any additional processing. Is that true?

Another way of putting my question would be, how great are the processing chip of the V20/U20 to display 720 program?

And BTW, are the Astro and 'free to air' China/Taiwan satellite program all 720p?

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post Nov 8 2010, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Nov 8 2010, 03:45 PM)
any HDTV should have enough computing power inside to process maximum resolution video signals and display them smoothly at the rated 50/60 fps

astro SD decoder video output is 576i
astro byond: 576i(SD), 720p(HD), 1080i(HD)
FTA satellite TV: 576i(PAL SD), 480i(NTSC SD), 720p(HD), 1080i(HD)
Thanks. I presume 720p is already here with us right now, right? But are these 1080 really available nowadays on television nowadays? Or only available on Blue Ray disc?

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post Nov 8 2010, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Nov 8 2010, 04:10 PM)
indeed some astro HD channels are broadcast in 1080i

BD is 1080p, so far there is no 1080p satellite TV channels in the world yet
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May I ask which astro HD are in 1080?

Do you think there will be any satellite TV channels in 1080p in the near future....say.....within the next 3 or 5 years?


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post Nov 8 2010, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Nov 8 2010, 04:23 PM)
u20's computing power is crippled a bit, ie using less powerful CPU, may be to save cost brows.gif
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If U50 processing power can be crippled, would it actually be better to just buy the X50 when watching 720p satellite TV program? Or going even further, if watching 720p program, the X50 a better choice than V50 as well (because there is nothing to process for X50)?


Added on November 8, 2010, 5:27 pm
QUOTE(neb @ Nov 8 2010, 01:52 PM)
you can play movie files either through computer or standalone media player
So with USB port built-in onto the TV, you do not need computer or standalone media player? If so, then USB port does becomes highly desirable.


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post Nov 8 2010, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 8 2010, 06:24 PM)
Remember the X series panel is not native 720p panel, it shd be 768. There is still scaling involved. Another thing to note is that, most likely u r watching a movie that started at a higher resolution, 1080p, so there was already scaling once if ur source is 720p.
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If 50V, 50U and 50X all have to undergo scaling, then can we assume regardless of source material (be it 1080, 720 or whatever), the 50V would have the most superior procession chip and hence, best picture quality? And most importantly, the better picture quality are apparent to our eyes? Thanks.




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post Nov 8 2010, 10:33 PM

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So which 50" plasma has built in media player that can play back downloaded movies?

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post Nov 10 2010, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(PoorMan @ Nov 9 2010, 06:26 PM)
Panasonic is limited to AVIs (Divx and Xvid) and AVCHD. I heard that Samsung can play more formats but please do check. I am not sure about RMVBs if you are into Chinese downloads as many built-in media players do not support.
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From what I can see, non of the 50" Plasma from Panasoinic can play MKV either, let alone RMVB. Damn. From what I read, even Xstreamer don't handle RMVBs?


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post Nov 11 2010, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(nicholas1007 @ Nov 11 2010, 07:32 PM)
just ordered the 50V20K. arrive next week
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What's the going price for this model?
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post Nov 12 2010, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(nicholas1007 @ Nov 12 2010, 12:31 AM)
i m considering..... coz my 42X10 wanna sell now after onli 1 year after the V20 coming in. things i considering:
1) how long i will b using the V20.
2) wat if after just 1 or 2 years i will sell V20 out, not worth paying extra RM5xx.
3) wat if it last more than 2 years, after 2 years got problem (touch wood).
4) anyone used their VIERA more than years & do u guys encounter any problems
thx
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Did you notice the V screen is far less reflective than the X screen?

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post Nov 13 2010, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(neb @ Nov 8 2010, 01:52 PM)
x20 panel resolution is 1024 x 768, it can accept 1080p signal but display at 720p as its maximum resolution

v20 series got 1080p full HD panel

u20 series, altough it got 1080p panel, it can only support 900 lines of moving picture resolution
So the ONLY true 1080 is the V series. Others are not, despite some people trying to mislead me?


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post Nov 13 2010, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(nicholas1007 @ Nov 13 2010, 06:32 PM)
just got called by the salesman, the stock 50V20 is here. ask me to go & pay the rest. i think i gonna buy the extra warranty through Panasonic website E-Warranty. much cheaper i guess.
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Let me get this right. You said the 1080's 50V is RM5700. The 720's 50X is RM3000, a different of RM2700. So for every one 50V, you can get almost 2 unit of 50X?

I was thinking, the way prices are dropping, why not just get the 50X now. 1 or 2 years later, with that RM2700 saved could probably get you another 50V.

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post Nov 14 2010, 05:54 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Nov 13 2010, 08:11 PM)
By then new version come out and you back to square one... rclxub.gif

Anyone on the U series? 50U20K? Any review from users here?
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That's what I said. With RM5700,

1. Buy a 50X now for RM3000
2. 2 years later, get another one 50V for RM2700 (because prices drop so fast)

So ended up with 2 TVs. One for the sitting room. One for the bedroom.

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post Nov 14 2010, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(vincentboleh @ Nov 14 2010, 02:23 PM)
Been 1 of the first few users of 50U20K since May'10 and here are my comments:
(1) TV is a bit reflective;  need to place TV at location with lesser reflection e.g. no opposite wall lighting or darker wall / curtain.
(2) If fancy about USB link for movies, internet, network connection, etc, forget about this TV.

I placed my TV in a TV Room where lighting is kept ideal and reflection minimum to obtain optimal PQ performance.  For ASTRO without Beyond, this TV performs excellently at viewing distance ~12 feet.  For Bluray movies or FHD movies via PMP, I notice no inferior in PQ quality since there is no TV side by side for comparison.

On a frank note, V Series has sharper / brighter PQ quality; price difference of ~RM1,800 should not be a deterrent.
Market is flooded with 3D TV / LED (55in - 60in) now and their prices are coming down so fast e.g. Sammy 63 ~RM14,000 and Sony LED ~RM16,000. I now feel that it is not the issue of U / V Series; it is the 50in that is now small to my accustomed eyes.
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How would u compare this U with the 50X?

On reflection. I saw 50U and Panasonic P54Z1S and the later have far far less reflection but cost a lot lot more.


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post Nov 15 2010, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(vincentboleh @ Nov 14 2010, 06:54 PM)
Both are as reflective. You will not notice 42in reflectiveness that much as coverage is is much smaller.
50in X Model is value for money if you are on Astro (incl. Beyond) and DVDs; someone mentioned 1 V Model = 2 X Models.
50in U Model is a FHD model (X is a HD Model) and you will notice vast detail differences on Bluray & FHD movies via PMP eg. Avatar / GI Joe.  If you are on 42in Models, your eyes can't really tell the difference.

Go to best denki Mid Valley to see for yourself, whether you can notice the difference.  There is a V Model there.
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someone told me and I checked. The only true HD is the 50V model. The 50U is only 900 lines and teh 50X 720 lines.
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post Nov 15 2010, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 15 2010, 04:15 PM)
Trust me, there is no way ur eye can see differences between moving resolution of 900 and 1080.Full HD means a panel with 1920 x 1080 pixels and the U meets that requirement.
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The 50X also has that panel but display at 720. Can see any differences or not? 90% of the time is for watching 'free to air' satellite program from china/taiwan etc. With the other 10% for MKV movies.

Are the supposedly superior 50V panel just as non-reflective as the TH-P54ZiS?

And how does these 3 Panasonic compares with Samsung PS50C6500 in your opinion?

Thks.

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post Nov 20 2010, 12:36 PM

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I find the Z1's screen so much more non-reflective than the 50X and 50U. So which newer Panasonic has non-reflective screen approaching Z1's?


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